Sudden Death Syndrome

What's causing the increase in sudden death and heart attacks

  • It's definitely being caused by the vaccine

    Votes: 45 34.1%

  • It's being caused by the virus itself

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • It could be either of the above

    Votes: 45 34.1%

  • I don't question the safety of the vaccine

    Votes: 3 2.3%

  • I like pie

    Votes: 24 18.2%

  • There is no increase in sudden deaths and you conspiracy theorists are just super paranoid

    Votes: 15 11.4%
  • Total voters
    132
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kiddiedoc said:
Nothing is as sad as young people dying without reason. You don't think we should at least investigate before continuing to push unnecessary shots?

Your dismissal of the possibility that mRNA shots could be at blame is sickening, honestly.

"So you do what they told ya..."
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According to dink and ktown it’s perfectly normal and happens all the time. They knew somebody in school.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
https://www.wate.com/news/sevier-co...TFTRkZrR0VJQ1lLdjUxV1dzMGxxT0ZaaC1PanpSbzMzVw..
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Kendl is still on bed rest while doctors work to figure out what happened. She said she is looking forward to being back at school with her teammates and friends. Next week she’ll undergo a stress test to see if there are any underlying health issues.

If all goes well she will be looking forward to participating in Senior Night festivities with her team.
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That doesn't sound like she is going to be playing on the team anymore. Being back "at school" and participating in "festivities" doesn't mean she's playing.
 
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Have we thought about what the "19" in Covid-19 represents? Are we still going to be talking about C-19 three years from now?
 
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VolinWayne said:
You are just in denial....If I told you the Earth was round you would disagree with me. You got your head stuck so far in the sand you are probably hearing chinese
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You are claiming that an abnormal number of young people are dying suddenly and then equating that to the vaccine. The problem is that you have no proof whether there is an increase in young people dying or whether any of the people who died were vaccinated. Again you lack logic. You comb the news for anecdotal evidence that supports your conclusion.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
You are claiming that an abnormal number of young people are dying suddenly and then equating that to the vaccine. The problem is that you have no proof whether there is an increase in young people dying or whether any of the people who died were vaccinated. Again you lack logic. You comb the news for anecdotal evidence that supports your conclusion.
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No one does. The question I have posed is: "Should we not investigate?" What is the common denominator? Why is there no information on whether or not all these people have received mRNA shots? Why is there not detailed autopsy findings? How many football players need to keel over next month before we at least look into it?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
No one does. The question I have posed is: "Should we not investigate?" What is the common denominator? Why is there no information on whether or not all these people have received mRNA shots? Why is there not detailed autopsy findings? How many football players need to keel over next month before we at least look into it?
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Do you know there are no autopsies or are simply assuming such because it fits your conclusion?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Do you know there are no autopsies or are simply assuming such because it fits your conclusion?
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Once again, I do not have a conclusion on this particular matter. I have questions and concerns.

The only report I have seen on the athletes in question was the Ugwe had cardiac muscle changes that were apparently not there on prior echos while in the League.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
5 min read
Another COVID-19 "Conspiracy Theory" Comes True!
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I forgot about this. Someone once said that they don't sell drugs, drugs sell themselves. If the vaccines were that good, you wouldn't need to resort to bribes.

Fourth, once the initial irrational exuberance behind the vaccines ran out (e.g., due to the vaccine injuries and failures of the vaccines to prevent COVID-19), and people stopped wanting to vaccinate, an incentive model would be introduced where people were bribed to vaccinate. I tried to list some of the examples here. The bribes included direct payments, lotteries, all sorts of junk food, marijuana, alcohol, and even prostitutes.
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kiddiedoc said:
Once again, I do not have a conclusion on this particular matter. I have questions and concerns.

The only report I have seen on the athletes in question was the Ugwe had cardiac muscle changes that were apparently not there on prior echos while in the League.
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You have reached another conclusion that I am not sure is accurate. To my knowledge, players hearts are only checked prior to the combine unless a history or an event dictates testing. So, you have a person who was grossly overweight 6'3" and 300+ pounds who may have had his last heart tests in 2007 and hasn't been in the NFL since 2014.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
You are claiming that an abnormal number of young people are dying suddenly and then equating that to the vaccine. The problem is that you have no proof whether there is an increase in young people dying or whether any of the people who died were vaccinated. Again you lack logic. You comb the news for anecdotal evidence that supports your conclusion.
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There is proof that people are dying of the vaccine and to say anything other then that is an outright lie. How significant that number is is not known. Look, all I want is the truth. We won't get the truth without asking questions and apparantly you don't think we should ask questions. You and I both have different opinions but it appears only one of us is entitled to one.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
You have reached another conclusion that I am not sure is accurate. To my knowledge, players hearts are only checked prior to the combine unless a history or an event dictates testing. So, you have a person who was grossly overweight 6'3" and 300+ pounds who may have had his last heart tests in 2007 and hasn't been in the NFL since 2014.
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NFL requires annual cardio exams including Echo and EKG as result of 2020 Collective Bargaining Agreement. NBA has had these same requirements for 15 years...
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
You are claiming that an abnormal number of young people are dying suddenly and then equating that to the vaccine. The problem is that you have no proof whether there is an increase in young people dying or whether any of the people who died were vaccinated. Again you lack logic. You comb the news for anecdotal evidence that supports your conclusion.
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I posted this in the other thread.

Here is a peer reviewed study. It's got lots of numbers and the survey instrument and recruitment protocol of the National Survey of COVID-19 Health Experiences were approved by the Institutional Review Board (IRB) of the Michigan State University Human Research Protection Program (file number: STUDY00006960, date of approval: November 17, 2021). All methods were carried out in accordance with relevant guidelines and regulations. The sample was obtained by Dynata, the world’s largest first-party data platform, and is representative for the US American population.

If this study is a true representation of the US population
1. Over 217,000 Americans were killed by the vaccine in the first year after rollout

2. The rate of severe adverse events reported in the survey by the survey participants (13.4%) after adjusting by a factor of 2 for categorization error, is still 5X more than was reported by Pfizer in their Phase 3 trial.

The role of social circle COVID-19 illness and vaccination experiences in COVID-19 vaccination decisions: an online survey of the United States population | BMC Infectious Diseases | Full Text
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
NFL requires annual cardio exams including Echo and EKG as result of 2020 Collective Bargaining Agreement. NBA has had these same requirements for 15 years...
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So this NFLer was last in the league in 2014. And the cardio exams were not even given at the combine prior to 2010 (Gaines death) and this guy came into the NFL in 2007.
 
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VolinWayne said:
I posted this in the other thread.

Here is a peer reviewed study for you to break down. It's got lots of numbers and the survey instrument and recruitment protocol of the National Survey of COVID-19 Health Experiences were approved by the Institutional Review Board (IRB) of the Michigan State University Human Research Protection Program (file number: STUDY00006960, date of approval: November 17, 2021). All methods were carried out in accordance with relevant guidelines and regulations. The sample was obtained by Dynata, the world’s largest first-party data platform, and is representative for the US American population.

If this study is a true representation of the US population
1. Over 217,000 Americans were killed by the vaccine in the first year after rollout

2. The rate of severe adverse events reported in the survey by the survey participants (13.4%) after adjusting by a factor of 2 for categorization error, is still 5X more than was reported by Pfizer in their Phase 3 trial.

The role of social circle COVID-19 illness and vaccination experiences in COVID-19 vaccination decisions: an online survey of the United States population | BMC Infectious Diseases | Full Text
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You gonna post a link?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
That isn't any sort of proof. It was a questionaire of less than 3000 people that was meant to show why people would not get vaccinated. Basically, it was designed to explore the role of gossip in the decision making process.
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I don’t know about proof but if it’s good methodology then it’s good information. If you’re building a case don’t you use small pieces of information together to build that case?
 
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