Sudden Death Syndrome

What's causing the increase in sudden death and heart attacks

  • It's definitely being caused by the vaccine

    Votes: 45 34.1%

  • It's being caused by the virus itself

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • It could be either of the above

    Votes: 45 34.1%

  • I don't question the safety of the vaccine

    Votes: 3 2.3%

  • I like pie

    Votes: 24 18.2%

  • There is no increase in sudden deaths and you conspiracy theorists are just super paranoid

    Votes: 15 11.4%
  • Total voters
    132
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kiddiedoc said:
Is there such a thing?

In the span of several months, an NFL player on TV and two college basketball players from the same team had major CV events. Did we just win the lottery this year?
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Im sure the numbers are real when they line up with your narrative.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Like when you told us early on that covid has zero impact on healthy people? You mean that number?
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I've seen probably 2000+ kids with it now, not one single long term problem, no deaths.

It definitely had an impact on healthy people in my practice: Several families that lost businesses, numerous mental health problems (depression, anxiety, etc), weight gain/prediabetes, educational loss, one suicide and multiple attempts.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I've seen probably 2000+ kids with it now, not one single long term problem, no deaths.

It definitely had an impact on healthy people in my practice: Several families that lost businesses, numerous mental health problems (depression, anxiety, etc), weight gain/prediabetes, educational loss, one suicide and multiple attempts.
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Yeah. And I knew a couple of healthy people who had some very serious complications and one who died. But I'm sure they don't count towards your real number of zero.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Yeah. And I knew a couple of healthy people who had some very serious complications and one who died. But I'm sure they don't count towards your real number of zero.
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I'm sorry to hear that, and no, there is never a "zero" when it comes to possible medical outcomes. I'm playing in a golf tournament this weekend to benefit a former classmate that died from a bee sting.

That's why it would be nice if we could see REAL numbers. As I've said numerous times: there have been way too many episodes recently of healthy, young athletes with major events to NOT ask questions. And, it's known -- without a shadow of a doubt -- that the mRNA shots carry a risk of myocarditis, esp in younger males.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
We’ve been studying sudden death in this country since 1980.
It’s been on the rise every year since. The teen actually slowed from 2020-2022 and has begun to rise again. There’s no statistically significant rise in the trend. In fact the trend has slowed.

Here’s a study that I still happen to have on my bookmarks from back when my sons were young and wrestling and I was concerned about over training.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circulationaha.108.804617

Pay attention to the dates.
When something is happening and you don’t notice till it’s something you are interested in we call that “escalation of awareness “
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This study was through 2006 correct? I have yet to see actual data that backs up the claim that there has been no increase in sudden deaths in athletes the past 3 years. I have seen plenty of whack-a-mole "fact check" news articles that provide no actual numbers to back this up.

On another note I was reading the link you provided (I think it was you that posted it but it's since been deleted because now I don't see the study) to studies done about high-school injuries in 2021-2022. This study made no mention of cardiac issues in athletes.
 
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COVID-Related Athletic Deaths: Another Perfect Storm?

In a descriptive study of 1,626 cases of myocarditis in a national passive surveillance report in the U.S., rates within 7 days after vaccination exceeded the expected rates across multiple age and sex strata and were highest after the second vaccination dose in adolescent males and in young men (Oster et al., 2022). From a cohort study of 1,597 U.S. university competitive athletes following COVID-19 infection, 37 athletes (2.3%) were diagnosed with clinical and subclinical myocarditis.
 
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VolinWayne said:
This study was through 2006 correct? I have yet to see actual data that backs up the claim that there has been no increase in sudden deaths in athletes the past 3 years. I have seen plenty of whack-a-mole "fact check" news articles that provide no actual numbers to back this up.

On another note I was reading the link you provided (I think it was you that posted it but it's since been deleted because now I don't see the study) to studies done about high-school injuries in 2021-2022. This study made no mention of cardiac issues in athletes.
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Literally the second post in this thread backs it up.
And
You can follow the link I had bookmarked back in the day to updates.
The numbers are what they are.
-Covid and vaccines have the same side effects
-sudden death isn’t new. We’ve literally been studying it since the 70s.

Welcome to the conversation
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
The phenomenon really caught researchers attention in the early 80s and has gotten worse every year. What did we start doing to ourselves in the 70s?
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34% more deaths than expected in working age people in the last quarter of 2022 is kind of hard to explain away or dismissed when you take into account the majority of the people at that point had taken the miracle vaccine that was supposed to save the world. Seriously though, wouldn't you think this number would go down when you consider all of the people who died during the peak of the pandemic. I mean really, how can anybody not question the fact that this number went up.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It has to do with that... absolutely. The comorbidities/obesity thing relates to diet, also.

Still doesn't take the untested mRNA jab off the hook, though.
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No statistical significant difference than those who had Covid an no vaccine.
Edit: except the unvaccinated experiencing sudden death at a slightly higher rate. But not statistically significant.
 
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