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#76
#76
UT had more fouls, they played more aggressive on defense. Whats so difficult to figure out? The way to beat UK is to play ultra aggressive and push them around. If I was an opposing coach I'd tell my team that every starter should have 4 fouls by end of regulation when they play UK. Its the only chance they have to keep it close. This whole "the refs save UK" BS is probably the most poor loser/ridiculous excuse I've ever heard.
 
#77
#77
Judge_Smails said:
UT had more fouls, they played more aggressive on defense. Whats so difficult to figure out? The way to beat UK is to play ultra aggressive and push them around. If I was an opposing coach I'd tell my team that every starter should have 4 fouls by end of regulation when they play UK. Its the only chance they have to keep it close. This whole "the refs save UK" BS is probably the most poor loser/ridiculous excuse I've ever heard.
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yet when uk loses or plays close games that is the first thing UK fans point to. when you all played here in Knoxville catpause was going crazy about the calls in that game, saying if it wasnt for the refs it wouldnt even be a game.
 
#78
#78
Judge_Smails said:
UT had more fouls, they played more aggressive on defense. Whats so difficult to figure out? The way to beat UK is to play ultra aggressive and push them around. If I was an opposing coach I'd tell my team that every starter should have 4 fouls by end of regulation when they play UK. Its the only chance they have to keep it close. This whole "the refs save UK" BS is probably the most poor loser/ridiculous excuse I've ever heard.
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this was a stupid comment, from the first word to the last and from almost any angle. Congratulations on covering all the bases.
 
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#79
bleedingTNorange said:
yet when uk loses or plays close games that is the first thing UK fans point to. when you all played here in Knoxville catpause was going crazy about the calls in that game, saying if it wasnt for the refs it wouldnt even be a game.
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Who complained? I dont recall anyone saying a word about refs. But complaining about the refs is normal for the visiting team, but this much is getting ridiculous. By reading some of these comments you'd think the game was a barn burner and UT almost won. You guys forget that if it wasnt for Woolridge shooting like Larry Bird it would have been a slaughter. You should spend more time thanking him than whining about losing to a better team.

UK has superior talent, defense and shooting ability. UT is unranked, has a new coach and playing an away game. And people still whine about the refs?
 
#80
#80
bleedingTNorange said:
yet when uk loses or plays close games that is the first thing UK fans point to. when you all played here in Knoxville catpause was going crazy about the calls in that game, saying if it wasnt for the refs it wouldnt even be a game.
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Where do you come up with this?

UK's biggest defeats are UConn last season and WVU the season prior. Nobody mentioned the refs, the other team played great. UK got beat by excellent shooting and interior defense. Refs are blamed by people who cant comprehend losing and poor losers.
 
#81
#81
Judge_Smails said:
Who complained? I dont recall anyone saying a word about refs. But complaining about the refs is normal for the visiting team, but this much is getting ridiculous. By reading some of these comments you'd think the game was a barn burner and UT almost won. You guys forget that if it wasnt for Woolridge shooting like Larry Bird it would have been a slaughter. You should spend more time thanking him than whining about losing to a better team.

UK has superior talent, defense and shooting ability. UT is unranked, has a new coach and playing an away game. And people still whine about the refs?
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please dont start the what if game...if UK didnt have the UNI-BROW we would have been in this game, he single handidly took us out of our game. add the fact of the zebras calling it how they did and we didnt stand a chance. no this was not a barn burner, and even with the calls going our way instead of UK we still lose this game that is clear, but the fact you are trying to make it sound like UK doesnt complain about the refs is a joke.
 
#82
#82
Judge_Smails said:
Where do you come up with this?

UK's biggest defeats are UConn last season and WVU the season prior. Nobody mentioned the refs, the other team played great. UK got beat by excellent shooting and interior defense. Refs are blamed by people who cant comprehend losing and poor losers.
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after the game that was played here in knoxville one of our posters put up a thread with quotes from catpause. they were going on and on about the refs, maybe if you spent time on your own site you would see these things.

they dont complain very often because they arent in close games or losing very often therefore there is no reason to complain, but like i said UK fans complain just like all other schools.

why is it that you honestly act like you are better than everybody else. you come on here and puff out your chest making statements like, we're the best athletic school, our athletic program is better than yours, our coach isnt a sleeze ball, we have #1 recruiting classes every year, we've been to this many final fours how many have you been too, we dont complain about the refs but everyone else does, refs dont favor us they favor everyone else.

i mean seriously everything that comes out of your mouth is so biased it is ridiculous.
 
#83
#83
bleedingTNorange said:
please dont start the what if game...if UK didnt have the UNI-BROW we would have been in this game, he single handidly took us out of our game. add the fact of the zebras calling it how they did and we didnt stand a chance. no this was not a barn burner, and even with the calls going our way instead of UK we still lose this game that is clear, but the fact you are trying to make it sound like UK doesnt complain about the refs is a joke.
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UK has lost 1 game this year, you see me blaming the refs? UK had an off day and Indiana lit it up. Losses happens and poor losers blame refs.
 
#84
#84
bleedingTNorange said:
they dont complain very often because they arent in close games or losing very often therefore there is no reason to complain, but like i said UK fans complain just like all other schools.

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HAHAA...so now UK fans dont complain much about refs? Make up your mind.

Got news for you. Fans of all sports complain about refs, even the "genius" ones like yourself. I just think its crazy to even put part of the loss on the refs. UT is clearly not the team UK is right now, blaming the refs as a reason for the loss is borderline lunacy. Question...has UT played a game all year where it was called equal?
 
#85
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Judge_Smails said:
HAHAA...so now UK fans dont complain much about refs? Make up your mind.

Got news for you. Fans of all sports complain about refs, even the "genius" ones like yourself. I just think its crazy to even put part of the loss on the refs. UT is clearly not the team UK is right now, blaming the refs as a reason for the loss is borderline lunacy. Question...has UT played a game all year where it was called equal?
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i said they dont need to because they are winning itd be retarded to complain when you win, yet multiple UK fans complained about the game here in knoxville.

PLEASE TELL ME WHERE I HAVE SAID A REASON FOR THE LOSS WAS THE REFS? WHY DO YOU INSIST ON PUTTING WORDS IN PEOPLES MOUTH, GROW UP.

yes most of the games have been called pretty fairly i thought just not the last one. as i have said about 100 times now though it wouldnt have meant a win for us thats not what im saying simply it was called unfair. you are the one whining about UT fans complaining about the refs, if you dont like it go to your own site where your fans whine about refs to.
 
#86
#86
Hardwood_fanatic said:
I said nothing out of the way in the game thread, it's a game thread. It's tongue in cheek anyway, chill out man.
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Don't know why you are posting on a TN board, but I certainly don't see anything wrong with it. I have not been offended by anything you have said. But to say officials missed a few was a huge understatement in my view. The truth is that Calapari and the KY fans intimidate officials to the point that it is impossible for visitors to get a fair game called in your arena. I look foward to the day when the NCAA catches up to con man Cal for his cheating. It is just a matter of time in my opinion. He has had game vacated for cheating on three occasions I was told. What would be great would be for KY to get the death penalty. As for Martins coaching ability I haven't seen that yet. I stick by my previous observationg, if he can recruit the very to players he might have a future at UT, but I doubt it. I think he is way too soft to be more than mediocre as a coach. Time will tell.
 
#87
#87
Judge_Smails said:
UK has lost 1 game this year, you see me blaming the refs? UK had an off day and Indiana lit it up. Losses happens and poor losers blame refs.
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well if UK had john wall, i mean ryan harrow, that off day wouldnt have happened. greatest pg in UK history book it.
 
#88
#88
willieboy said:
I have not been offended by anything you have said. But to say officials missed a few was a huge understatement in my view. The truth is that Calapari and the KY fans intimidate officials to the point that it is impossible for visitors to get a fair game called in your arena. .
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Its called a home court advantage. You think Rupp is tough?? HA!! Kansas and Duke are worlds ahead. Rupp is a morgue compared to those arenas.
 
#89
#89
bleedingTNorange said:
well if UK had john wall, i mean ryan harrow, that off day wouldnt have happened. greatest pg in UK history book it.
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He wont be better than Wall, but he'll be better than Teague. I never said he was better than Wall. Do you drink, or just grasping at straws?
 
#90
#90
Judge_Smails said:
He wont be better than Wall, but he'll be better than Teague. I never said he was better than Wall. Do you drink, or just grasping at straws?
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just putting words in your mouth like you seem to enjoy doing. although you did compare him to both wall and knight which as you say is lunacy.

im still waiting to see where cal said all this stuff about him as well. still waiting on you also to expain why if he's better than teague did he not go pro after his freshman year? teague is a projected top 20 pick, harrow wasnt projected to go i dont believe, if he was projected 1st round he wouldnt have decided to sit out a year.

i'll wait while you try and find anything proving that harrow is going to be better than teague? he was the 5th best player on a horrible nc state team, lost his starting position through out the year, and fell off the map.
 
#91
#91
Judge_Smails said:
UT had more fouls, they played more aggressive on defense. Whats so difficult to figure out? The way to beat UK is to play ultra aggressive and push them around. If I was an opposing coach I'd tell my team that every starter should have 4 fouls by end of regulation when they play UK. Its the only chance they have to keep it close. This whole "the refs save UK" BS is probably the most poor loser/ridiculous excuse I've ever heard.
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Actually KY played far more agressive defense than TN. They bodied TN players all over the front court and mugged the TN players down low with no fouls called. Don't know who said that the refs saved UK. UK is clearly a superior team to TN. The fact remains that the refs screwed TN by calling the fouls 4 to 1 against TN. Stokes and Mayman were fouled time and time again down low with no call. That happens to every team that goes into KYs arena and is a big factor in their 47 game home winning streak. This KY team is good they are not unbeatable. They are only unbeatable at home primarily because the officials do not call fouls on both teams. Anyone who does not recognize this simply dont know anything about BB in my opinion.
 
#92
#92
willieboy said:
Actually KY played far more agressive defense than TN. They bodied TN players all over the front court and mugged the TN players down low with no fouls called. Don't know who said that the refs saved UK. UK is clearly a superior team to TN. The fact remains that the refs screwed TN by calling the fouls 4 to 1 against TN. Stokes and Mayman were fouled time and time again down low with no call. That happens to every team that goes into KYs arena and is a big factor in their 47 game home winning streak. This KY team is good they are not unbeatable. They are only unbeatable at home primarily because the officials do not call fouls on both teams. Anyone who does not recognize this simply dont know anything about BB in my opinion.
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this will get proven come ncaa tourney time. interested to see what excuse UK fans use when they get bounced, and dont get the call=s they are used to getting.
 
#93
#93
Hardwood_fanatic said:
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* Defensive intensity from UK was just stifling.


Agreed when the officials don't call fouls on you it helps you to play great defense. The biggest stat on KYs side is 27 to 7 free throw attempted and no free throws at all in the first half for TN. These refs should be fired.
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#94
#94
bleedingTNorange said:
he said there were calls that were missed but thats not the reason we lost, that is completely honest. were there calls missed, did we get hosed on a few plays? yes. would it have mattered? no, not tonight.
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It was much much more than a few calls missed. The truth is that KY was allowed by the officials to play their game and TN was not. If the game had been called fairly you would have seen a much closer game. Some people don't feel that it matters because KY would have won even if the ft attempts had been 27 to 27. But it is just a shame that teams can't get an fair game called at Rupp. And it really doesn't look good for a coach to tell the officials how he wants the game to be called before the game and tells praises them after the game for calling 4 times the fouls on the opposition.
 
#96
#96
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Blue blood programs that reside in the top 5 get calls at home, I have no defense for that. But I don't think anyone can argue who was the more aggressive team on both ends of the floor.
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Thats a good point and usually the less agressive team on defense doesn't commit as many fouls. You make my point for me.
 
#97
#97
willieboy said:
It was much much more than a few calls missed. The truth is that KY was allowed by the officials to play their game and TN was not. If the game had been called fairly you would have seen a much closer game. Some people don't feel that it matters because KY would have won even if the ft attempts had been 27 to 27. But it is just a shame that teams can't get an fair game called at Rupp. And it really doesn't look good for a coach to tell the officials how he wants the game to be called before the game and tells praises them after the game for calling 4 times the fouls on the opposition.
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i agree it was alot of calls, but it wouldnt have led to a win we were simple not playing well at all, i do believe it would have been much closer though. and yes it would be nice to get a fairly called game at rupp, but by now you expect the crappy calls, why do you think they have a 47 game winning streak at home under cal? he doesnt only pay the players, he pays the refs to apparently. with that said do you really think that Calipari cares the least bit how he looks? he stopped worrying about his greaseball image a lOOOOOOOOOng time ago.
 
#98
#98
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Nothing I said in my OP is inaccurate or false, nor flaming. If everyone wants to focus on fouls instead of the fact that UT shot 28% from the field, and allowed UK to shoot 50%, then I'll give the floor to everyone and let the thread get all irrational. Just trying to discuss a basketball game.
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You don't seem to understand that if the officials had called the game fairly UK would not have shot 50%. Every time a UT player guarded a UK player is was called a foul, yet at the other end UK was allowed to bump our guards and mug our inside players as much as they wanted. And when that pos shoved Golden in the back they called a double t instead of kicking his a-- out of the game. How do you explain Cal pos ipera meeting with the officials before the game and giving them their instructions?
 
#99
#99
bleedingTNorange said:
no its called being realistic. i hate UK but i am also realistic and can tell you good basketball from bad basketball. the refs arent the reason that we lost this game, not in the least bit. UK was in our grill the entire game, and we continued to fold and make bad decision after bad decision.

take off the orange shades and look at this from an unbiased standpoint.
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People on here are not *****ing because we lost. Where the hell is your sense of fair play. When you have a team like KY get a huge advantage in the officiating and completely take a less talented team out of the game some people consider that an unfair advantage. Do you really want too tell me that this game was called fairly for both sides. Do you really believe it doesn't matter because odds are the less talented team would have lost any way. If so there is something wrong with your sense of fairness.
 
#100
#100
dukes_of_maggard said:
It's funny you said that because as a UK fan I though about Lofton too - especially his 4th and 5th 3FG...they were in the air and I was like...ok well surely he'll miss these...and no. Don't know much about him (other than the rapping) does he usually take a strong role in scoring?
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Get lost jerk
 
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