Supreme Court strikes down federal law prohibiting sports gambling

[k-town_king]

Mine didnt, and the baby boomer entitlement programs are killing the country financially. We can't afford to give away stuff anymore.

Most of the South lived in poverty before the big deal, the new deal, and the gi Bill. It's unlikely that if you live in the south you did not benefit from these unless your family is old money rich from the 1700s-1800s or you are a poc.maybe you do come from an old rich family. If not your family got help at some point if you are from the south.

Now people don't want the same help that set their family on the path to self sufficiency extended to others.

But in this case it's only those who choose to participate anyway. Why do you care?

 

[Burger]

Most of the South lived in poverty before the big deal, the new deal, and the gi Bill. It's unlikely that if you live in the south you did not benefit from these unless your family is old money rich from the 1700s-1800s or you are a poc.maybe you do come from an old rich family. If not your family got help at some point if you are from the south.

Now people don't want the same help that set their family on the path to self sufficiency extended to others.

But in this case it's only those who choose to participate anyway. Why do you care?

Because we're 20 trillion in debt. My grandfather's father refused it back in the great depression. Especially when those same programs are raising prices in the first place.

 

[k-town_king]

Because we're 20 trillion in debt. My grandfather's father refused it back in the great depression. Especially when those same programs are raising prices in the first place.

Sure he did. :good!:

Plus I'm pretty sure you have several great grandfathers and grandfathers that lived during that time. Not one. Not all of them did.

 

[Burger]

Sure he did. :good!:

Plus I'm pretty sure you have several great grandfathers and grandfathers that lived during that time. Not one. Not all of them did.

Yes he did refuse it. We have a student loan issue because people are majoring in things that don't make any money.

 

[k-town_king]

Yes he did refuse it. We have a student loan issue because people are majoring in things that don't make any money.

Why do you keep saying he? You have multiple grandfathers/ greatgrandfathers/ great great grandfathers that lived in the era. Some took the money if they lived in the south and or fought in any wars. Or were they a bunch of war dodgers from rich families? Or wealthy carpetbaggers? If so ok. If not some got government assistance.

 

[hog88]

Lmao. That is not how it works. I know several families who sent kids to college that would not be able go without the lottery scholarship. It's a great program.

No it’s not. Just do a quick look at the rise in tuition and how it’s outpaced the lottery contribution. My son was the second class entering college eligible for the lottery money. Tuition at TN Tech rose exactly the same amount the lottery was contributing.

 

[Orangedogsrule]

I have been in law enforcement for over 20 years and seen marijuana and other illicit drugs destroy lives over and over again. Where there are illicit drugs there are violent crimes.

I have yet to see anyone killed or any other violence over gambling. I'm not saying it isn't possible but I sure haven't seen violent crimes based on gambling addiction.

We are in the midst of an opioid epidemic in this country, and I would bet that the vast majority addicted to opioids have or regular smoke marijuana. Marijuana is obviously a gateway to other more dangerous or illicit substances.

So you haven't seen families destroyed and destitute by gambling addiction? Spouses and kids left penniless? Homeless?
Children growing up with their dad/mom persona non grata at every single extended family get together. Hated by grandma & grandpa?

That's how I grew up. My dad was a moonshine alcoholic and a real "sport" who never had a dime in his pocket for his family but his paycheck went to sports betting. I have no use for gambling or the folk that run gambling. It's the prime reason I can't stand Trump with his casinos. It's legal... but I hate it.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I placed a $100 bet in Vegas yesterday that the Supremes would strike down this law. :dance2:

Nevada Power and Light thanks you.

 

[TennTom]

This is dumb and narrow-minded, but seems to be the way you live your life. I do not smoke marijuana and even if it we're legalized in this state, I still probably wouldn't. However, the fact that marijuana is an illegal drug in this country is beyond dumb. The reason it isn't legal is due to two things and two things only. It's easily grown and the Fed don't like that they would have trouble taxing it and it will hurt Big Pharm industry. That's the bottom line to all of this and Big Pharm is pulling all the strings. It should be obvious to us all, but then again we have people with your distorted view of it.

This right here.

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

I have been in law enforcement for over 20 years and seen marijuana and other illicit drugs destroy lives over and over again. Where there are illicit drugs there are violent crimes.

I have yet to see anyone killed or any other violence over gambling. I'm not saying it isn't possible but I sure haven't seen violent crimes based on gambling addiction.

We are in the midst of an opioid epidemic in this country, and I would bet that the vast majority addicted to opioids have or regular smoke marijuana. Marijuana is obviously a gateway to other more dangerous or illicit substances.

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[Squints]

It's not that simple for everyone to save thousands of dollars. Why does it upset you so much? Not your money.

Mad the poor kids that are really smart are not being penalized for being born into poverty? Worried they will be able to improve their lives and their families lives so they can act afford to pay when their kids are heading to college. You think more people being educated is bad? Mad they willl maybe make more than you one day even though they grew up less fortunate?

What does it matter to you? Complain about farm subsidies if you care about our money getting passed out to rich families.

First bold above:

If they are so smart, they should be able to secure College/department specific scholarships. That line doesn’t jive with your skin color and party affiliation, thus, you’re using it to justify how you’ve been oppressed. Tell me, when’s the last time you worked a cotton field and got your ass beat with a whip for not responding with, “yassah, mas’ser?” I’ll tell you when, NEVER. Get on with the sanctimoniousness.

Second bold:

Do you want to starve?

 

[AshG]

IHow about those families pay for their own kids tuition rather than someone else subsidizing it.. It’s not like they don’t have 20 years to plan and save

Unless someone in your family suffers catastrophic medical conditions that wipes out all savings just to avoid death and bankruptcy.

It's so easy to talk in best case scenarios.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

It's not that simple for everyone to save thousands of dollars. Why does it upset you so much? Not your money.

Mad the poor kids that are really smart are not being penalized for being born into poverty? Worried they will be able to improve their lives and their families lives so they can act afford to pay when their kids are heading to college. You think more people being educated is bad? Mad they willl maybe make more than you one day even though they grew up less fortunate?

What does it matter to you? Complain about farm subsidies if you care about our money getting passed out to rich families.

What's so special about a college degree? And why does everyone need one?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Unless someone in your family suffers catastrophic medical conditions that wipes out all savings just to avoid death and bankruptcy.

It's so easy to talk in best case scenarios.

It's also easy to provide a second standard deviation issue as well. I'll ask you the same question: Why does everyone need a college degree?

 

[BearCat204]

I'm sure your father or grandfather got money for school, starting a business, or buying a home through the GI Bill years ago. Most Americans complaining about people paying their own way would be living in poverty if the government didn't help so many white families escape poverty in the 30s, 40s, and 50s. They don't even realize their whole family is where they are due to help. Now they are mad others are getting help now. It's sad.

Please don't even attempt to compare the GI Bill or other VA programs to Government subsidies.

 

[k-town_king]

Please don't even attempt to compare the GI Bill or other VA programs to Government subsidies.

"Benefits included dedicated payments of tuition and living expenses to attend high school, college or vocational/technical school, low-cost mortgages, low-interest loans to start a business, as well as one year of unemployment compensation.
The recipients did not pay any income tax on the GI benefits, since they were not considered earned income."

Yeah it was all the stuff that conservatives hate now. It is why white families were able to build wealth.

Also


"Although the G.I. Bill did not specifically advocate discrimination, it was interpreted differently for blacks than for whites. Historian Ira Katznelson argued that "the law was deliberately designed to accommodate Jim Crow".[25] Because the programs were directed by local, white officials, many veterans did not benefit. Of the first 67,000 mortgages insured by the G.I. Bill, fewer than 100 were taken out by non-whites."

 

[BearCat204]

"Benefits included dedicated payments of tuition and living expenses to attend high school, college or vocational/technical school, low-cost mortgages, low-interest loans to start a business, as well as one year of unemployment compensation.
The recipients did not pay any income tax on the GI benefits, since they were not considered earned income."

Yeah it was all the stuff that conservatives hate now. It is why white families were able to build wealth.

Also


"Although the G.I. Bill did not specifically advocate discrimination, it was interpreted differently for blacks than for whites. Historian Ira Katznelson argued that "the law was deliberately designed to accommodate Jim Crow".[25] Because the programs were directed by local, white officials, many veterans did not benefit. Of the first 67,000 mortgages insured by the G.I. Bill, fewer than 100 were taken out by non-whites."

You do know that individuals paid into that system and also you know actually did something for it other than fill out paperwork.


To the second part of your post, while a lot of discrimination existed back then, how exactly is a VA (not GI Bill) home loan building wealth? All that VA insurance does is guarantee the bank they will get their money. Just don't understand the reach there.

 

[TJ1985]

I live in near-constant pain since losing my leg. I refuse to take opioids because of how dangerously addictive they are and how you have to keep upping the dose as the body gets used to it.

I refuse to take neurontin for the phantom pain because it makes me violently angry. It almost cost me my family.

But cannabis? A friend offered me a smoke one day when the phantom pain was so bad I was cursing up a storm. Not even ten minutes after the smoke did I feel better than I had in ages. The pain was gone. Not deadened, not numbed, but gone. My right no-leg stopped feeling like it was on fire.

Unfortunately, because of the lobby that keeps it illegal when cigarettes and alcohol are still OTC, I can't get it medically where I live (Mississippi). And although I know it will help immensely, I refuse to get it illegally because of the risks involved all round. Ugh.

As for sports betting, we've been doing it for ages anyway. Legalizing it just gives the middle man more opportunity to take a cut nationwide.

My stance is more focused on recreational use, and I was referencing another poster in a discussion about marijuana as a gateway drug.

I'm sorry for your current health issues. I think medicinal marijuana can be useful and should be legal. It certainly wouldn't be as addictive as opioids.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

My stance is more focused on recreational use, and I was referencing another poster in a discussion about marijuana as a gateway drug.

I'm sorry for your current health issues. I think medicinal marijuana can be useful and should be legal. It certainly wouldn't be as addictive as opioids.

Absolutely.

I think weed should be legal period.

 

[Orangedogsrule]

You do know that individuals paid into that system and also you know actually did something for it other than fill out paperwork.


To the second part of your post, while a lot of discrimination existed back then, how exactly is a VA (not GI Bill) home loan building wealth? All that VA insurance does is guarantee the bank they will get their money. Just don't understand the reach there.

African American neighborhoods where most of the African American GIs wanted to purchase were "redlined" by banks making it almost impossible to get the VA loan in the first place without a massive downpayment and/or major collateral, if even at all.

The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood - The Atlantic

Racial 'Redlining' from 1930s Still Shapes Home Prices Today

Modern-day redlining: How banks block people of color from homeownership - Chicago Tribune

 

[AshG]

It's also easy to provide a second standard deviation issue as well. I'll ask you the same question: Why does everyone need a college degree?

Oh heck no, not everyone needs a college degree! I'm ABD right now because of degree creep (can't prepare the next generation of teachers without being Piled higher and Deeper!). And because I want a doctorate, but that's just me.

I would love to see a shift back towards strong vocational education with an emphasis on apprenticeships and craftsmanship. My younger brother went that route and is making more with an Associate's than I will with a PhD. I see too many undergrads who are "doing college" because they don't know what else to do. Not undecided, but completely lost. We can't afford that. There are much better ways.

 

[Velo Vol]

Feds eye move to regulate legal sports betting

Sen. Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat, told The Associated Press he and Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah will introduce the Sports Wagering Market Integrity Act of 2018.

The bill would have the U.S. Justice Department set minimum standards states must meet in order to offer sports betting, but denies the sports leagues the so-called “integrity fees” they have been seeking in new legislation, essentially a cut of sport betting revenue.

 

[HuntlandVolinColo]

My stance is more focused on recreational use, and I was referencing another poster in a discussion about marijuana as a gateway drug.

I'm sorry for your current health issues. I think medicinal marijuana can be useful and should be legal. It certainly wouldn't be as addictive as opioids.

One area of promise is for the CBD drops which are pain relief without the THC and less addictive and easier on the liver than most pills. It is also very good for pets pain relief.

Being from the first state to legalize (CO and also WA), the negative effects are less than I feared but we have been hit with a 500% increase in homeless moving to our state since legalization. We now have beggars panhandling on secondary streets, practically in the neighborhoods. Unemployment is less than 3.5% and you are just too damm lazy to get a real job that benefits yourself and your country. What do these yahoos expect when it comes time for social security? The average of the their best 35 years of income when you don't pay any Social Security Taxes? … that will go over well.

Also seen more emboldened beggars driving their vehicles to their work (begging) location. I'm sorry but if you can afford a 20 year old dodge ram, you don't need my help...I got kids in college thank you very much.

While legal in Colorado, Marijuana is still illegal for Federal Employees like myself and Military Personnel.

 

[Velo Vol]

Tennessee legislature is currently debating allowing online gambling.

Tennessee General Assembly » Legislation (Development)

 

[82_VOL_83]

I have been in law enforcement for over 20 years and seen marijuana and other illicit drugs destroy lives over and over again. Where there are illicit drugs there are violent crimes.

I have yet to see anyone killed or any other violence over gambling. I'm not saying it isn't possible but I sure haven't seen violent crimes based on gambling addiction.

We are in the midst of an opioid epidemic in this country, and I would bet that the vast majority addicted to opioids have or regular smoke marijuana. Marijuana is obviously a gateway to other more dangerous or illicit substances.

You need to back this up a little. If you are in law enforcement you must work in Mayberry.