Taliban Taking Over Afghanistan - Does anyone care?

Do you care?

  • No

    Votes: 40 23.1%
  • Hell No

    Votes: 48 27.7%
  • Yes, we should invade and send in Troops

    Votes: 25 14.5%
  • I like Pie

    Votes: 60 34.7%

  • Total voters
    173
I have criticized Biden multiple times in this thread. There is not one republican who would have handled this better.

#1 even Trump's withdrawal plan had everything running through Bagram which was much easier to defend. It would have also left the USAF a base to fly cover from.

#2 Republicans like to blow 💩 up! You don't think a Republican administration would have dropped the hammer on the taliban caravans the minute they started on the roads to Kabul? It would have been the "Highway of Death" part 2 like we did the retreating Iraqi army in the final hours of Desert Storm.
 
What hypocrisy? I never voted for Trump, never supported Trump, and I don't support partisan politics. None of that changes that Biden screwed this up in epic fashion. You can say you agree, but when you also throw in a "but Trump" you can't tell me you're not trying to excuse it in some fashion.
I'm not excusing it in anyway, shape, or form. Biden and his admin own this cluster F of an exit strategy.

All I'm calling out is the hypocrisy of those who pretend that trump would've magically solved this.
 
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I'm not excusing it in anyway, shape, or form. Biden and his admin own this cluster F of an exit strategy.

All I'm calling out is the hypocrisy of those who pretend that trump would've magically solved this.
No one knows WTF Trump would have done. Anyone saying he could have done better is being just as ridiculous as anyone saying he would have done the same or worse. We don't know. What we do know is how Biden handled it, and it's a cluster****. Neither side needs to be bringing up Trump. He's not the President.
 
I'm not excusing it in anyway, shape, or form. Biden and his admin own this cluster F of an exit strategy.

All I'm calling out is the hypocrisy of those who pretend that trump would've magically solved this.
We don’t know how a Trump administration would have handled it. But it’s hard to believe that it would have been any worse. That’s beside the point, though. Biden is the President, not Trump, so this is on him and his administration.
 
Not sure what your point is. Biden apparently had no disagreement with pulling our troops otherwise he would have cancelled the agreement, same as he cancelled everything else Trump. You have no argument. Trump is no longer President. Biden is. You've bitched for months about people calling the election a fraud, yet now you're the one that wants to keep bringing up Trump? Why is that? I'll tell you why, because you know Biden royally screwed this up and it's gonna hurt your party. Forget about your party and think of your country. It has nothing to do with being a Dem or a Pub. Biden ****ed this up.

He's using nothing but a diversion tactic.

Trump's strategy has been widely discussed. It is clear anyone had to work with the Taliban "up front" to try to save the Afghan government. Trump let it be known he had clear conditions.

Biden is a failure and it is laughable his administration is calling this a success after they have brought home 13 deads bodies and around 20 injured soldiers in various conditions. They disrepected the menacing nature of the Taliban. Boastfully stated the Afghan government will defeat the Taliban then had to work from a position of weakness.

Now they cratered to the Taliban and now have good things to say about them all the while the Taliban emptied the prison that potentially led to the suicide bombing and got $85B in US military equipment.

This administration keeps getting played like a piano, and is trying to make chicken salad from chicken $hit.
 
I'm not excusing it in anyway, shape, or form. Biden and his admin own this cluster F of an exit strategy.

All I'm calling out is the hypocrisy of those who pretend that trump would've magically solved this.

there is miles between magically solved this (which I've seen no one claim) and screwing it up as badly as this administration did.

you should also be calling out the hypocrisy of those saying it wouldn't have been different with any other POTUS.
 
No one knows WTF Trump would have done. Anyone saying he could have done better is being just as ridiculous as anyone saying he would have done the same or worse. We don't know. What we do know is how Biden handled it, and it's a cluster****. Neither side needs to be bringing up Trump. He's not the President.
Can I get an Amen!
 
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"Sorry there are no more rescue flights and oh yeah we gave your names to the Taliban"
American University of Afghanistan students attempting to flee could not reach airport: Report

There are a slew of these across the Middle East and whenever things get hot in their particular area the faculty who went there for the $ all start applying for jobs back in the US. Almost every job opening we have draws apps from these folks whether they match the job description or not
 
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The 'Star Wars' robot that Thwarted ISIS-K missile attack on US planes: C-RAM blasted jihadists' rockets before they could hit Kabul airport targets

This is the US's sophisticated 'Star Wars robot' tasked with shooting down missiles fired by jihadist terrorists at Kabul airport - where the last American planes are preparing to leave following Afghanistan's fall to the Taliban.

Dubbed R2 D2 by troops - after the iconic Star Wars character - the C-RAM boasts a powerful machine gun which can fire up to 4,500 rounds per minute.

The Centurion Counter-Rocket, Artillery and Mortar defense system uses radar to detect, evaluate and take out approaching missiles and can be controlled remotely. It can also rotate up to 300 degrees at 115 degrees per second.

It was put into action Monday to take down five rockets launched at Hamid Karzai International Airport by terror group ISIS-K - which was responsible for two suicide bombs at the airport last week which claimed 170 lives, including 13 US army personnel.

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The Centurion Counter-Rocket, Artillery and Mortar defense system uses radar to detect, evaluate and take out approaching missiles and can be controlled remotely. It can also rotate up to 300 degrees at 115 degrees per second.

The 'Star Wars' robot that thwarted ISIS-K attack on US planes: C-RAM blasted jihadists' rockets | Daily Mail Online

please tell me we loaded this up when we left or completely disabled it
 
I'm not excusing it in anyway, shape, or form. Biden and his admin own this cluster F of an exit strategy.

All I'm calling out is the hypocrisy of those who pretend that trump would've magically solved this.
As a card carrying Trump can go F himself member, I have to say that's crap. You have no clue. It's Biden's bed and to claim Trump would have been worse at it is a dumb irrelevant argument that can't be proven. So stop making it.
 
What hypocrisy? I never voted for Trump, never supported Trump, and I don't support partisan politics. None of that changes that Biden screwed this up in epic fashion. You can say you agree, but when you also throw in a "but Trump" you can't tell me you're not trying to excuse it in some fashion.

He’s not really trying to convince you. Same with LG. There is no point in a debate.

It’s very difficult for people to admit they’ve been fooled. This is an attempt at rationalizing their vote. Using a 100% hypothetical that they have 100% convinced themselves is true.
 
90 Retired Generals and Admirals Call For Austin and Milley to Resign Immediately over the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal

Dozens of retired generals and admirals are demanding that Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley resign over the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan.

'The retired Flag Officers signing this letter are calling for the resignation and retirement of the Secretary of Defense (SECDEF) and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (CJCS) based on negligence in performing their duties primarily involving events surrounding the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan,' 90 retired top-ranking military officials wrote in an open letter released Monday.

90 retired generals and admirals call for Austin and Milley to resign over Afghanistan withdrawal | Daily Mail Online
 
I'm not excusing it in anyway, shape, or form. Biden and his admin own this cluster F of an exit strategy.

All I'm calling out is the hypocrisy of those who pretend that trump would've magically solved this.

Exactly correct. He'd have done nothing differently because the same agency staff people that misled Biden had already misled Trump and would have done it again.
 

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