Taliban Taking Over Afghanistan - Does anyone care?

[StarRaider]

Is this the part where Biden says “well sonofabitch he got fired” or something like that?

I’d just like to know where COLONEL Vindman is to report on this.

He is Ukraine Army Chief of Staff now.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

As far as treason goes, wouldnt arming a terrorist organization like the tailban with vehicles and weapons be grounds...??? Of course they'd have to prove it was intentional...

Unfortunately treason is one of, if not the hardest crimes to prove. I mean there are people on VN that said Trump committed treason. He didn’t come close.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The truly pathetic part of this is that none of the Joint Chiefs had the balls to stand up to Biden and threaten to resign.

Say what? Biden isn't really calling the shots. His advisors are. Hell Milley, Austin, Rice and the rest are the ones you need to be really blaming. Why would they threaten to resign when they are the ones that masterminded this?

 

[NorthDallas40]

I have a feeling there are going to be many Col. V's on this situation.

It would appear the rats are lining up at the life boats. You hate to see it.

 

[volinbham]

From the article, which I found particularly interesting:



Looks like a total failure on the intelligence community. Biden is the CIC, and the buck stops with him. But at the same time, we were getting **** information and analysis.

However, as a whole, this article doesn't paint a good picture.

Yes but even hearing Kabul would be isolated basically 10 days after the planned departure (30 days from Aug 11) ought to raise some eyebrows that the ANA can hold out for a year or more conclusion was way the hell off and maybe 30 days could turn into many less

 

[davethevol]

Here's the bit from Ghani about the Taliban situation

Ghani told Biden he believed there could be peace if he could “rebalance the military solution.” But he added, “We need to move with speed.”

“We are facing a full-scale invasion, composed of Taliban, full Pakistani planning and logistical support, and at least 10-15,000 international terrorists, predominantly Pakistanis thrown into this,” Ghani said. Afghan government officials, and U.S. experts, have consistently pointed to Pakistani support for the Taliban as key to the group’s resurgence.

July 23rd.

And we’ve been giving Pakistan billions in aid. Nice.

 

[volinbham]

And we’ve been giving Pakistan billions in aid. Nice.

well Pakistan denied it so I guess we should keep the cash flowing

 

[VolnJC]

 

[davethevol]

Not good.

 

[volinbham]

Dang

 

[jaybird_1981]

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There is always a tweet huh EL?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The head of PETA said she has received calls from current and former employees of the U.S. State Department telling her that service and working dogs were abandoned in Afghanistan.

Said some of the dogs have been let loose onto the streets of Kabul. Said these dogs are companion dogs and have no survival skills.

Man, they can't let them dogs get stranded in Afghanistan. These Karens over here will march on Washington!

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

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There's always a tweet.

 

[volinbham]

military denying they were working dogs. Love the rationale

“We invest hundreds of thousands of dollars into these dogs,” Pahon said. “We wouldn’t leave them behind.”

bunch of military equipment says otherwise but I digress

No, the military did not leave its working dogs behind, DoD says

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Logan Act charges coming soon...

 

[StarRaider]

Logan Act charges coming soon...

It's gonna be ok, it was an illegal entry into a country and the neo-marxists are fine with that.

 

[Vol423]

military denying they were working dogs. Love the rationale

“We invest hundreds of thousands of dollars into these dogs,” Pahon said. “We wouldn’t leave them behind.”

bunch of military equipment says otherwise but I digress

No, the military did not leave its working dogs behind, DoD says

The military equipment wasn't worth hundreds of thousands. It was worth many tens of billions.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

 

[BreatheUT]

The more I think about this the more I believe it could be true. Could this be some clever way of carrying out a large arms transfer that would be wildly unpopular? There have to be other angles in missing too.

Who really knows but this was such a cluster that nobody can see any other angle unless you are the leftist media calling Sleepy J brave.

 

[AM64]

Could be the Taliban ejected the whiter more radical guys like dems were teaching them; the outcasts became ISIS-K; and just like that the Taliban became the good guys.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Biden voters with a lick of sense...

 

[volfanhill]

It blows my mind that there are people who are still defending this. Blaming Trump. Pretending like this was inevitable. That's all bullshat. We could have left and not screwed the exit up. Jesus people. Hell even Trumps message about this made more sense then what we did. And it sounded like common sense. You get the military out last. Shocker.

 

[JOEY'S ALL VOL !!!]

From what I read last night, "Operation Hercules" was not permitted to load most of the animals onto planes, and many were just let go at the airport. One of the women that led the rescue refused to leave them and chose to stay behind in Kabul.

Can you even imagine ?

 

[BreatheUT]

Fair enough

I typically try not to read too much into these meetings because these families are overcome with fresh grief. But one common denominator I've read from their experiences that sticks with me, and I think really sucks is Joe telling them he understands as he lost a son. While I get he is attempting to identify with them, as CIC you make this about them, let them grieve their way. If they want to be upset at you and get it off their chest you let them, if they want comfort of an embrace you give it to them. They have given the most precious possession they have or ever will have to this country under your leadership. Joe would do well to embrace that and own it, not to make it about him or his son.

Not only do you let them grieve without taking away from their moment by talking about you son that had nothing to do with a military incident death, Biden had no situational awareness to know he was the idiot that helped cause their death.

 

[AM64]

As tactically unsound as this withdrawal was, it really makes you question the military minds we have in charge. Nothing about how this was handled makes sense to me. And I'm not claiming to be some kind of military genius, but I don't think it takes a genius to see how truly and epically this was screwed up.

The other problem is that this began with a deadline, possibly incomplete objectives, and certainly wrong priorities with respect to which people leave when. It should have been undertaken with a target date, more comprehensive objectives, and clear and reasoned status on who leaves with respect to other groups. However, there should have been flexibility to adapt to changing conditions, and the ground commander should have been the one to state the objectives have been met and the evacuation is complete. Anybody who has dealt with complex issues particularly when things are changing and include unknown variables should know that hard and fast decisions - especially deadlines by people not on the scene - is a recipe for failure.