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n_huffhines said:
Now do all the bad **** that happened to the children of hetero parents this week and let's demonize a whole group about it.
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There have been a great many mentally ill hetero parents who have done horrible things to their kids. But in this case they aren't mentally ill. How do I know? Because they're trans, and trans people aren't mentally ill. Can't be. It's a rule.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Murdering a world full of sinning adults is fine. They deserved it.

Murdering innocent babies is fine because they go to heaven.

You guys kill me.
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I'm not a religious person by any means but as a mental exercise:

Is a G^d (any) killing humans actually murder? A G^d by definition isn't human, maybe we're made in the image of but G^d can't be human. If a lion or any other species kills a human is that murder? I posit that only a human can "murder" a human.
 
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hog88 said:
I'm not a religious person by any means but as a mental exercise:

Is a G^d (any) killing humans actually murder? A G^d by definition isn't human, maybe we're made in the image of but G^d can't be human. If a lion or any other species kills a human is that murder? I posit that only a human can "murder" a human.
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IMO, what makes it murder is our ability to reason, so yeah, a higher being can also commit this sin, crime, whatever you want to call it. It's just semantics, either way. It's awful, regardless of the word we use for it.
 
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n_huffhines said:
IMO, what makes it murder is our ability to reason, so yeah, a higher being can also commit this sin, crime, whatever you want to call it. It's just semantics, either way. It's awful, regardless of the word we use for it.
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How can it be considered a crime or sin to kill a lower form of life? It's neither a crime nor a sin for a human to squash a bug or kill a dangerous dog.
 
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hog88 said:
How can it be considered a crime or sin to kill a lower form of life? It's neither a crime nor a sin for a human to squash a bug or kill a dangerous dog.
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Just because we don't think of it that way does not mean it's not a sin. Killing a bona fide threatening person is not a crime. Kill your dog because you think he's sinful and yeah, that's a crime. Dogs have the brains of a child and the emotions of a human. That's why we treat them differently than bugs.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Just because we don't think of it that way does not mean it's not a sin. Killing a threatening person is not a crime. Kill your dog because you think he's sinful and yeah, that's a crime.
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It's a crime only because humans decide it's a crime and that isn't universal across all humanity.

Good discussion BTW.
 
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hog88 said:
It's a crime only because humans decide it's a crime and that isn't universal across all humanity.

Good discussion BTW.
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Yeah, I just think we're too caught up in the labels...crime, sin, etc. Is it "wrong" to kill a dog for no good reason? I would say yes, regardless of the fact that other cultures may not see it that way. I think that's a universal truth because it's destructive and I value all forms of life. The more consciousness an animal exhibits, the higher level of stewardship I feel over them. From a selfish perspective, each creature has a job in our ecosystem.

I don't kill a bug unless I have to. I have pest control because scorpions and termites are a problem here. But I try my best to get moths and flies out of my house without killing them. I probably save 50 bees each summer from drowning in my pool. I'm definitely saving more bugs than I am smashing. I try to teach my kids not to smash bugs. I know this is abnormal, but it's just how I am.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Yeah, I just think we're too caught up in the labels...crime, sin, etc. Is it "wrong" to kill a dog for no good reason? I would say yes, regardless of the fact that other cultures may not see it that way. I think that's a universal truth because it's destructive and I value all forms of life. From a selfish perspective, each creature has a job in our ecosystem.

I don't kill a bug unless I have to. I have pest control because scorpions are a problem here. But I try my best to get moths and flies out of my house without killing them. I probably save 50 bees each summer from drowning in my pool. I'm definitely saving more bugs than I am smashing. I try to teach my kids not to smash bugs. I know this is abnormal, but it's just how I am.
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You are a benevolent G^d to the insects in your domain.
 
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Is the LGBT Community Advocating Psychological Pedophilia? | Frontpage Mag

"A twofold phenomenon is taking place. First, a declaration of war against parents for raising their children according to their own values. Second, a premeditated intention to engage in psychological capture of said children’s minds. This is psychological molestation because it occurs against the backdrop of a plethora of socializing mechanisms at work in the pre-K and K-12 school system. These include but are not limited to: subjection of children to pornographic materials in order to make them more accepting of gays, lesbians and trans persons; the non-gendering of children without parental consent; and the induction of thousands of young children into a cult that eschews belief in biological sex accompanied by a forced non-binary mode of self-identification. We also witness the literal transitioning of healthy children who may suffer from depression, anxiety and some semblance of sexual confusion into a full-scale ideology of transgenderism, gay, lesbian and trans identification. The concomitant carnage here is the irrevocable despoilation of innocence. Once you rape a child of his or her innocence, the memories associated with that state of innocence are forever lost."
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n_huffhines said:
Just because we don't think of it that way does not mean it's not a sin. Killing a bona fide threatening person is not a crime. Kill your dog because you think he's sinful and yeah, that's a crime. Dogs have the brains of a child and the emotions of a human. That's why we treat them differently than bugs.
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So the creator of the universe that stridently opposes evil and sin can be evil and sinful? Who gets to let the creator know that?
Killing a dog, unless it is done cruelly and / or deprives someone of property isn't a crime in a lot of places. Some societies, and individuals in our society, don't believe that dogs have the brains of children and the emotions of humans.
 
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EasternVol said:
So the creator of the universe that stridently opposes evil and sin can be evil and sinful? Who gets to let the creator know that?
Killing a dog, unless it is done cruelly and / or deprives someone of property isn't a crime in a lot of places. Some societies, and individuals in our society, don't believe that dogs have the brains of children and the emotions of humans.
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IDK the answer. The ideas are not mutually exclusive. Why would they be? People who oppose some of the worst evils have turned out to have evil in them.

However, I am saying the story isn't true. I'm not saying God is evil.
 
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So long as the hearer has the opportunity to hear (if he wants to flush away the truth, well).

Have you read today's new FF topic, on cultural fit.

That applies to societal culture, just as it does within a small, privileged football program. Certain expectations of conduct -- in this case, the banner of the Cross in context of the banner designed by Baker.

Recruiting and teaching one another to abide by certain moral conduct and character << absolutely reasonable.


18th century
The early motto of Harvard was Veritas Christo et Ecclesiae, meaning "Truth for Christ and the Church".
History of Harvard University - Wikipedia
 
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n_huffhines said:
IDK the answer. The ideas are not mutually exclusive. Why would they be? People who oppose some of the worst evils have turned out to have evil in them.

However, I am saying the story isn't true. I'm not saying God is evil.
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There's quite a bit in the OT that goes against our sense of right and wrong. A lot of invasions, genocide, and the like are deemed good.
 
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So much news around town -- it's nice that we can hear about it at VN.

News: Paul told the churches to be on alert (his 'news letters' are circulated still, to this day). These are days to be on alert --


Acts 20:28Keep watch over yourselves and the entire flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God,g which He purchased with His own blood.h 29I know that after my departure, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. 30Even from your own number, men will rise up and distort the truth to draw away disciples after them. 31Therefore be alert and remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.
 
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EasternVol said:
There's quite a bit in the OT that goes against our sense of right and wrong. A lot of invasions, genocide, and the like are deemed good.
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Yeah, and God doesn't change and he's always loving supposedly but he did change pretty drastically.....according to the writers who I don't believe. If the Bible God is real, he probably didn't change. The writers ****ed up.
 
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EasternVol said:
Or wrote it to suit their agenda.
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A lot of people scoff at this idea, I've asked a few people I know that believe that the bible is absolute this question.

If instead of "Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's", Jes^s said "To heck with Ceasar, keep your money" would King James have let that into the Bible?
 
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EasternVol said:
Or wrote it to suit their agenda.
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hog88 said:
A lot of people scoff at this idea, I've asked a few people I know that believe that the bible is absolute this question.

If instead of "Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's", Jes^s said "To heck with Ceasar, keep your money" would King James have let that into the Bible?
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By that logic, What was "their agenda" for teaching about Melchizedek ?

18Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine—since he was priest of God Most Highf — 19and he blessed Abram and said:

“Blessed be Abram by God Most High,

Creator of heaven and earth,

20and blessed be God Most High,

who has delivered your enemies into your hand.”

Then Abram gave Melchizedek a tenth of everything.
 
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EasternVol said:
Or wrote it to suit their agenda.
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hog88 said:
A lot of people scoff at this idea, I've asked a few people I know that believe that the bible is absolute this question.

If instead of "Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's", Jes^s said "To heck with Ceasar, keep your money" would King James have let that into the Bible?
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By "their" -- to be sure: are you referring to the Israelites? e.g. Moses, the prophets and apostles (Peter, Matthew, Paul ; and Luke) ?
 
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