TCU left out

#52
#52
LittleCat said:
How do you argue OSU>TCU? No head to head to compare. SOS is there for TCU. TCU has a much less worse loss. OSU lost to unranked VaTech and TCU lost to a top 10 team on the road by 3 points.

It helped OSU a ton that they turned it on late because that is what stuck in the white dudes memory more than the rest of the year.
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SOS is not there for TCU, where do you keep seeing that? ESPN SOS, after all games last night had OSU at 45, TCU at 54 and Baylor at 59. I haven't seen SOS anywhee else.
 
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#53
I don't think this should even be a TCU argument. It should be a Baylor argument. The only poll where TCU was top 4-much less ahead of Baylor- was the committee poll. Ap, USA Today, ESPN all had TCU on the outside looking in last week.
 
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malinoisvol said:
Meet candy and ky. Lol
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Nice try. We're not losing money on them though: markets, the latter almost brings in its whole state, the latter is one of the main college basketball powers - and brings in a significant amount of money as such, actually in both sports - and so on.
 
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TrueOrange said:
It's not a pride thing.

It's all 10 members making less money each year (and their overall TV contracts with networks becoming less) because of the conference would now having to carry 2 teams that doesn't bring anything to the table (other than being a placeholder).
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Another potential bowl team(s) brings more money. The SEC is fixing to have 12 teams in bowl games and was 4 pts away from 13. 12 brings in more than 10.

Plus a championship game brings in more money.
 
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Bottom line: add 2 and a championship game. No co-champs. Imo
 
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GAVol said:
I don't think this should even be a TCU argument. It should be a Baylor argument. The only poll where TCU was top 4-much less ahead of Baylor- was the committee poll. Ap, USA Today, ESPN all had TCU on the outside looking in last week.
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Even if it's a Baylor argument, Baylor was out of this early on from their OOC SOS.

The "3-easiest non-conference wins we can find" approach cost them when the decision became this close.
 
#62
#62
Come on. Really! If it were all about $$$, ND and BAMA every year. Wait a min...
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Another potential bowl team(s) brings more money. The SEC is fixing to have 12 teams in bowl games and was 4 pts away from 13. 12 brings in more than 10.
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Not if the team being brought in doesn't bring with it a significant market/money as well.

Another 1-2 bowl teams doesn't add that much in a shared pot...not to mention you're ignoring how the lesser bowls aren't paying as much as the larger bowls (so every team is not making/bringing in the same amount), and they're now sharing it among more teams.
 
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Sec and Acc got additional teams from where? The only thing holding back big 12 is Texas Greed.imo
 
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I think the interesting thing to watch is if Bama annihilates Ohio State, the committee will get a lot of backlash.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Not if the team being brought in doesn't bring with it a significant market/money as well.

Another 1-2 bowl teams doesn't add that much in a shared pot...not to mention you're ignoring how the lesser bowls aren't paying as much as the larger bowls (so every team is not making/bringing in the same amount), and they're now sharing it among more teams.
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I'm not ignoring the payouts of other bowls. I realize that all bowls don't pay $15mil like BCS bowls. But I also don't have time nor the desire to look or put a pen to potential payouts for potential Big 12 tie-ins.

Did TCU add anything in terms of TV market money for the Big 12? They already had the Metroplex on lockdown.

If CSU can remain competitive you can get the Denver market back and make BYU an offer they can't refuse and you grab a decent market in the West. It would be similar to ND but obviously on a smaller scale.
 
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Vol knight said:
I think the interesting thing to watch is if Bama annihilates Ohio State, the committee will get a lot of backlash.
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Same as if it were bama blowing out TCU or Baylor. Darned if you do, darned if you don't
 
#71
#71
I guess SOS depends on how they are measuring it. Evidently they measure it by oppenent wins total or whatever.
 
#72
#72
You can't deny the story line of Bama vs tOSU / Saban vs Meyer us not a bugger TV draw than TCU would have been.

Fair or not. It is what it is.
 
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malinoisvol said:
Sec and Acc got additional teams from where? The only thing holding back big 12 is Texas Greed.imo
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They got them from the Big 12 and the then-BCS conference known as the Big East.

If you want to even look back to the 90s, the SEC got 1 team from the falling apart of the Southwest conference (which was a major, would have been BCS-level conference, at the time) and 1 because it was an independent that left the ACC. The ACC got its teams from the then-major conference Big East.


There's not any major conferences left to pull bigger market teams from anymore.
 
#74
#74
The B12 doesn't need to necessarily add 2 teams, they need to have the rule changed about needing 12 teams to have a championship game.

Which IMO has always been a stupid rule.
 
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