TCU left out

#76
#76
I'm just saying, if they want to compete with the big boys they have to get a CCG.
 
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#78
#78
Also let's be honest, replace Baylor or TCU with Texas and guess who gets that #4 spot?
 
#79
#79
I still Think 6 is the perfect number. It makes being at the top really important and 2 teams that have really strong arguments getting in. Look how it would have played out.

#1 Alabama - Bye
#2 Oregon - Bye
#3 FSU - vs #6
#4 OSU - vs #5
#5 Baylor - vs #4
#6 TCU - vs #3

Hard to argue with that scenario this year.
 
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#80
#80
I would think their top 4 realistic candidates would be:

Boise/BYU or Memphis/Cincinati depending on whether they'd prefer to go east or west.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
The B12 doesn't need to necessarily add 2 teams, they need to have the rule changed about needing 12 teams to have a championship game.

Which IMO has always been a stupid rule.
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It's been said that they could easily get a waiver to play a conference championship game with only 10 or 11 teams, but the big 12 has never applied to it. So in other words the Longhorns don't want it.
 
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#82
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thehardknoxlife said:
I still Think 6 is the perfect number. It makes being at the top really important and 2 teams that have really strong arguments getting in. Look how it would have played out.

#1 Alabama - Bye
#2 Oregon - Bye
#3 FSU - vs #6
#4 OSU - vs #5
#5 Baylor - vs #4
#6 TCU - vs #3
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This year I wouldn't mind this but year to year it's going to change and more/less teams would be "worthy" of having the chance. Some years it might be two, others like this year it's probably 5 or 6. There's just not a great consistency to be had. If it were 8 I'm sure the 9th and 10th teams would be argued.
 
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vols-1 said:
It's been said that they could easily get a waiver to play a conference championship game with only 10 or 11 teams, but the big 12 has never applied to it. So in other words the Longhorns don't want it.
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It wouldn't require a waiver; it'd have to be a full rules change.

That said, I think the conference had either inquired or possible requested about it to the NCAA last offseason (the ACC around to was speaking to the NCAA to see if it could be changed to just "two best teams in a conference play"), but no change came out of it.

Edit: Per an NCAA article

The ACC and the Big 12 are in the process of trying to change NCAA rules regarding conference championship games. Currently, a conference must have at least 12 teams, split into two divisions and all the teams in that division must play each other.
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LittleCat said:
This year I wouldn't mind this but year to year it's going to change and more/less teams would be "worthy" of having the chance. Some years it might be two, others like this year it's probably 5 or 6. There's just not a great consistency to be had. If it were 8 I'm sure the 9th and 10th teams would be argued.
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I'd still rather have 8. I believe you have to have a way for all Power 5 conferences to get a spot.
 
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LittleCat said:
This year I wouldn't mind this but year to year it's going to change and more/less teams would be "worthy" of having the chance. Some years it might be two, others like this year it's probably 5 or 6. There's just not a great consistency to be had. If it were 8 I'm sure the 9th and 10th teams would be argued.
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True, but the arguments aren't as strong.

Last year #7 was Ohio St. who lost the conference championship to #6 MSU. It would be interesting to go back and look how the 6 team scenario would have played out. I'm almost certain it would be more accurate than the BCS arguments in any given year.

I think 8 is too many, you'll have teams coming off a conference championship loss getting in with 8.
 
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#86
Baylor fans on their message board think they should schedule Tennessee.

"I think it makes sense to start scheduling teams like Vanderbilt, Uconn, Duke, and Tennessee, teams of that nature."

Nice to see our perception hasn't taken a hit :)

Link
 
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GoBigOrange86 said:
Baylor fans on their message board think they should schedule Tennessee.

"I think it makes sense to start scheduling teams like Vanderbilt, Uconn, Duke, and Tennessee, teams of that nature."

Nice to see our perception hasn't taken a hit :)

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Let's Get Ready To RUMBLE!!!
 
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GoBigOrange86 said:
Baylor fans on their message board think they should schedule Tennessee.

"I think it makes sense to start scheduling teams like Vanderbilt, Uconn, Duke, and Tennessee, teams of that nature."

Nice to see our perception hasn't taken a hit :)

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Guess they don't realize a 2-10 UConn team (who just lost to Baylor's opponent SMU) or a 3-9 Vandy does nothing to help their scheduling woes. New money success, they don't understand how the it all works.
 
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GoBigOrange86 said:
Baylor fans on their message board think they should schedule Tennessee.

"I think it makes sense to start scheduling teams like Vanderbilt, Uconn, Duke, and Tennessee, teams of that nature."

Nice to see our perception hasn't taken a hit :)

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Come get you some!
 
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TrueOrange said:
It wouldn't require a waiver; it'd have to be a full rules change.

That said, I think the conference had either inquired or possible requested about it to the NCAA last offseason (the ACC around to was speaking to the NCAA to see if it could be changed to just "two best teams in a conference play"), but no change came out of it.

Edit: Per an NCAA article
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According to an ESPN article regarding the Big 12's situation they said they'd have to add 2 teams or have the NCAA approve a waiver. Technically, if you're making an exception you're in essence changing your rules. But I guess it wouldn't necessarily have to be rewritten.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Also let's be honest, replace Baylor or TCU with Texas and guess who gets that #4 spot?
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Yep... Part of this is about eyeballs. Cinderella teams, even those smaller market teams from big conferences such as TCU and Baylor, will absolutely HAVE to be undefeated to get in.
 
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#95
That's a shame. This is why we need a 6 team system. You get your champions from their respected conferences and a wildcard (or two, depending of the strength of conference that year). Seed 6 vs Seed 3 and Seed 4 vs Seed 5 for the first round. The winner of those two face seed 1 & 2 in round 2, this way #1/2 get rewarded for their ranking. Then the winner of those two games plays for the national championship. In my book that's more ideal than an 4 team or 8 team playoff system.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
According to an ESPN article regarding the Big 12's situation they said they'd have to add 2 teams or have the NCAA approve a waiver. Technically, if you're making an exception you're in essence changing your rules. But I guess it wouldn't necessarily have to be rewritten.
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They could easily add two teams.
 
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#97
I guess we are just going to have to watch the same thing every year with Ohio State thanks to the media. They beat up on a garbage conference and then lose by 30, yet somehow next season everyone will forget how bad the big 10 is.

Ohio State's wins against ranked opponents were Wisconsin, Mich St. and Minnesota.
TCU's were Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, WVU, and K. St. They also destroyed Minnesota.
Baylor has the same wins as TCU minus WVU and they beat TCU in the head to head.

One game should not neglect the entire season.
 
#99
#99
When there were 2 teams, team 3 would be mad. Now there are 4 teams and team 5 is pissed. If there were 8 teams, the ninth team wouldn't be happy . I mean, the basketball tourney has 68 teams and there are still gripes. Just the nature of how it will be no matter the number of teams.
 
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LittleCat said:
How do you argue OSU>TCU? No head to head to compare. SOS is there for TCU. TCU has a much less worse loss. OSU lost to unranked VaTech and TCU lost to a top 10 team on the road by 3 points.

It helped OSU a ton that they turned it on late because that is what stuck in the white dudes memory more than the rest of the year.
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Agreed! It baffled me you drop a team for their own convincing win.
 
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