Tea parties....

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lawgator1 said:
No, was in meetings.

You could fit everything I know about Daily Kos in a thimble and have room left over. I've heard of them, and assume they are super leftist, but I don't know what they do other than have a blog. Do they do nationwide liberal protests? Enlighten me.
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In short, your bigotry only allows for hatred of right wing groups?

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#102
No, was in meetings.

You could fit everything I know about Daily Kos in a thimble and have room left over. I've heard of them, and assume they are super leftist, but I don't know what they do other than have a blog. Do they do nationwide liberal protests? Enlighten me.
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I know very little about them as well, beyond that they're a bunch of pricks. I just wondered what you thought of that quote from one of it's members.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes, I do think the vast majority that will show up are that stupid. I think its going to be about 5 percent fairtax/flattax proponents and the rest a bunch of gsvol and joevol clones with "Hussein" and "A-rab" handmade signs.
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Wrong much.......

Anti-tax protests - Yahoo! News Photos

Between this topic and the - they wanted the captain to die because they hate Obama - prediction, you are having a tough week. Perhaps your paranoia of uber-right wing extremist is getting the better of you.
 
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VolDad said:
Wrong much.......

Anti-tax protests - Yahoo! News Photos

Between this topic and the - they wanted the captain to die because they hate Obama - prediction, you are having a tough week. Perhaps your paranoia of uber-right wing extremist is getting the better of you.
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You kinda proved his point somewhat.

There were a few anti-Obama posters in the pics linked. The Osama Bin Lyin one really stands out.
 
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HawaiiVol said:
You kinda proved his point somewhat.

There were a few anti-Obama posters in the pics linked. The Osama Bin Lyin one really stands out.
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there were 3 Obama signs in all those pics (one only said "OBA" but I'll give it to you). The one you say stands out was in a picture with about 10 others and was in the very back. Hardly shows the intent of the whole group and really just reinforces the point that they are few and far between.
 
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The bulk of the coverage I've seen so far -- which admittedly is very limited -- is that the protestors are largely focused on taxation and spending. While they do seem to me to be rather poorly informed in thinking that Obama is the lighning rod for the issue, I have to concede right now that it looks like the majority of people turning out are there for the announced reason.
 
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HawaiiVol said:
You kinda proved his point somewhat.

There were a few anti-Obama posters in the pics linked. The Osama Bin Lyin one really stands out.
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I wonder if Homeland Security stopped this person for questioning. With a poster like that, he clearly is some right wing extremist.
 
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vols4sure said:
I wonder if Homeland Security stopped this person for questioning. With a poster like that, he clearly is some right wing extremist.
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Come on now, don't tell me you are falling for this feigned outrage. There have been numerous reports or alarms raised over the years about right wing political and religious groups that have gone from protesting to plotting. This country is not alone in that. Its happened in Italy, England. Obviously, domestic terrorists within Muslim nations, identified as "fundamentalists," have killed many thousands of people.


Now old Rush Limbaugh is out there trying to make this about him and the First Amendment, but there is zero evidence that anyone is treating Limbaugh as some sort of national security threat. Unless and until there is some evidence or record of the government spying on people who are just saying critical things, there is no reason to hype this as anything out of the last 20-30 years of having to worry about someone cloaking himself in religion or the Constitution to justify violence.
 
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It was a joke, but I will have to say that I am in disbelief that these reports have painted with such a broad brush in their characterizations. Doing that leads to crap reporting like this from CNN:

Right-wing extremism may be on rise, report says - CNN.com

Though the nine-page report said it has "no specific information that domestic right-wing terrorists are currently planning acts of violence," it said real-estate foreclosures, unemployment and tight credit "could create a fertile recruiting environment for right-wing extremists and even result in confrontations between such groups and government authorities similar to those in the past."

Isn't that the type of articles that you hate from fox news.
 
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vols4sure said:
It was a joke, but I will have to say that I am in disbelief that these reports have painted with such a broad brush in their characterizations. Doing that leads to crap reporting like this from CNN:

Right-wing extremism may be on rise, report says - CNN.com

Though the nine-page report said it has "no specific information that domestic right-wing terrorists are currently planning acts of violence," it said real-estate foreclosures, unemployment and tight credit "could create a fertile recruiting environment for right-wing extremists and even result in confrontations between such groups and government authorities similar to those in the past."

Isn't that the type of articles that you hate from fox news.
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The difference is that CNN concludes its story by explaining:


A DHS official said the department was not trying to squelch free speech by issuing the report. "There is no link between extremists being talked about in that report and conservative political thinkers, activists and voters," the official said.



But conservative radio talk show host Roger Hedgecock was not persuaded. "If the Bush administration had done this to left-wing extremists, it would be all over the press as an obvious trampling of the First Amendment rights of folks and dissent," he told CNN.

In fact, the Obama administration in January did issue a warning about left-wing extremists. Both reports were initiated during the administration of former President George W. Bush.


I particularly call your attention to the last paragraph. Haven't heard Limbaugh mentioning that part, have you?
 
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Hello, I am a grown man who is obsessed with an obese man. I don't know why I have these feelings......

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lawgator1 said:
The difference is that CNN concludes its story by explaining:


A DHS official said the department was not trying to squelch free speech by issuing the report. "There is no link between extremists being talked about in that report and conservative political thinkers, activists and voters," the official said.



But conservative radio talk show host Roger Hedgecock was not persuaded. "If the Bush administration had done this to left-wing extremists, it would be all over the press as an obvious trampling of the First Amendment rights of folks and dissent," he told CNN.

In fact, the Obama administration in January did issue a warning about left-wing extremists. Both reports were initiated during the administration of former President George W. Bush.


I particularly call your attention to the last paragraph. Haven't heard Limbaugh mentioning that part, have you?
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First of all, I have not once listened to Rush except when he has been on the tv so I don't know what he does and does not mention (on a sidenote, my mom actually went to school with him and my grandmother was good friends with his mom; my mom said he was a huge dork back then).

Second, the leftwing extremist report they are talking about is only against a threat of cyber attacks and definitely does not paint as broadly as the right wing report does. I am not saying that having a report on possible right wing extremists is terrible, but to use characterizations that would put every single conservative as someone to watch is pathetic.
 
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vols4sure said:
First of all, I have not once listened to Rush except when he has been on the tv so I don't know what he does and does not mention (on a sidenote, my mom actually went to school with him and my grandmother was good friends with his mom; my mom said he was a huge dork back then).

Second, the leftwing extremist report they are talking about is only against a threat of cyber attacks and definitely does not paint as broadly as the right wing report does. I am not saying that having a report on possible right wing extremists is terrible, but to use characterizations that would put every single conservative as someone to watch is pathetic.
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LG is good at that!
 
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lawgator1 said:
The difference is that CNN concludes its story by explaining:


A DHS official said the department was not trying to squelch free speech by issuing the report. "There is no link between extremists being talked about in that report and conservative political thinkers, activists and voters," the official said.



But conservative radio talk show host Roger Hedgecock was not persuaded. "If the Bush administration had done this to left-wing extremists, it would be all over the press as an obvious trampling of the First Amendment rights of folks and dissent," he told CNN.

In fact, the Obama administration in January did issue a warning about left-wing extremists. Both reports were initiated during the administration of former President George W. Bush.


I particularly call your attention to the last paragraph. Haven't heard Limbaugh mentioning that part, have you?
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I'll call your attention to the date mentioned in the last paragraph and ask you whether you believe this admin has any ownership of that comment like they do this latest pronouncement?
 
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vols4sure said:
Second, the leftwing extremist report they are talking about is only against a threat of cyber attacks and definitely does not paint as broadly as the right wing report does. I am not saying that having a report on possible right wing extremists is terrible, but to use characterizations that would put every single conservative as someone to watch is pathetic.
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Who has done that? I haven't heard or read of a signle person saying that "every single conservative" is being watched.

I have heard folks like Limbaugh imply that -- because they get political mileage of exaggerating and fabricating it. But I am aware of exactly NO evidence that just being a conservative has caused someone to get "watched" by homeland security (or nsa, or fbi, or whoever).
 
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lawgator1 said:
Who has done that? I haven't heard or read of a signle person saying that "every single conservative" is being watched.

I have heard folks like Limbaugh imply that -- because they get political mileage of exaggerating and fabricating it. But I am aware of exactly NO evidence that just being a conservative has caused someone to get "watched" by homeland security (or nsa, or fbi, or whoever).
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LG is a lobbyist for a group to do just that.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Who has done that? I haven't heard or read of a signle person saying that "every single conservative" is being watched.

I have heard folks like Limbaugh imply that -- because they get political mileage of exaggerating and fabricating it. But I am aware of exactly NO evidence that just being a conservative has caused someone to get "watched" by homeland security (or nsa, or fbi, or whoever).
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You know what I mean. I did not say every single conservative is being watched, but that the characterizations that the report uses are equating typical conservative views as things to watch out for when looking for right wing extremism.
 
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vols4sure said:
You know what I mean. I did not say every single conservative is being watched, but that the characterizations that the report uses are equating typical conservative views as things to watch out for when looking for right wing extremism.
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That's absurd. The report doesn't say that all people who are anti-abortion or are opposed to illegal immigration are potential terror threats. It says that people who are "single issue" folks and who feel like, between the state of the economy and their being completely locked out of the current political system, they ought to take matters into their own hands.

We've seen single-issue people on the left and the right do some ridiculous things to make their point, and one or two have resorted to violence, includoing mass violence and domestic terrorism.

What is the government supposed to do, pretend that domestic terrorists just wake up one morning in a pissy mood, go out and buy 4 tons of fertilizer and amonia, scout a building, and blow it up 'cause they got a headache?

Come on. You know full well that the things they are talking about are the organized people (who as a result can be caught if monitored) who plot and plan. That they are motivated by right wing politics is not the issue (unless you are a blowhard conservative fear mongering shock jock who wants to paint himself as the martyr).
 
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As one liberal commentator put it:

This country has showered me with the blessings of liberty. So what do I owe my country in return? Paying my fair share of taxes, it seems, is the least I can do. Thanks to President Obama and the Democratic Congress, 95 percent of Americans will get a tax cut this year. No one -- not even the wealthiest 1 percent -- will have to pay higher income taxes until 2011.

So why are a bunch of Fox News clowns and right-wing cranks hosting "tea parties" all over the country? The Boston Tea Party, in case the clods at Fox didn't know it, protested "taxation without representation." Note the second word: without. The goofballs tossing tea bags today have representation. They voted in the election; they lost.

That a bunch of overpaid media millionaires would lead a faux-populist revolt is comical. They somehow held their populist instincts in check as George W. Bush and the Republicans cut taxes on the idle rich and put the screws to the working stiffs.

Bush's tax policies were a godsend to the Paris Hilton class, but they sent the country on the road to bankruptcy and helped ruin the economy. But now that we the people have decided to set things right, now that we've hired Obama to fix the mess conservatives created, now they're protesting?

Give me a break. Instead of tossing tea bags for the cameras, the Fox phonies ought to go to Walter Reed Army Medical Center. There they would find better, braver men who have truly sacrificed for their country. They deserve nothing but the best -- not the shameful and shoddy conditions they endured during the Bush administration.

You want something to protest? How 'bout protesting how little we give back to our veterans? Or how 'bout protesting that the entire budget of the National Cancer Institute (where government researchers battle a disease that will strike half of all men and a third of all women) is 0.03 percent of what we gave the bandits at American International Group alone? Oh, but veterans benefits and cancer research might cost money. It might require -- dare I say it? -- paying taxes.

If the whiners at Fox News want to advertise their selfishness, they are free to do so. But please don't dress it up as patriotism. Patriotism is putting your country ahead of yourself -- which is the precise opposite of what the tea party plutocrats are doing.
 
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lawgator1 said:
As one liberal commentator put it:

This country has showered me with the blessings of liberty. So what do I owe my country in return? Paying my fair share of taxes, it seems, is the least I can do. Thanks to President Obama and the Democratic Congress, 95 percent of Americans will get a tax cut this year. No one -- not even the wealthiest 1 percent -- will have to pay higher income taxes until 2011.

So why are a bunch of Fox News clowns and right-wing cranks hosting "tea parties" all over the country? The Boston Tea Party, in case the clods at Fox didn't know it, protested "taxation without representation." Note the second word: without. The goofballs tossing tea bags today have representation. They voted in the election; they lost.

That a bunch of overpaid media millionaires would lead a faux-populist revolt is comical. They somehow held their populist instincts in check as George W. Bush and the Republicans cut taxes on the idle rich and put the screws to the working stiffs.

Bush's tax policies were a godsend to the Paris Hilton class, but they sent the country on the road to bankruptcy and helped ruin the economy. But now that we the people have decided to set things right, now that we've hired Obama to fix the mess conservatives created, now they're protesting?

Give me a break. Instead of tossing tea bags for the cameras, the Fox phonies ought to go to Walter Reed Army Medical Center. There they would find better, braver men who have truly sacrificed for their country. They deserve nothing but the best -- not the shameful and shoddy conditions they endured during the Bush administration.

You want something to protest? How 'bout protesting how little we give back to our veterans? Or how 'bout protesting that the entire budget of the National Cancer Institute (where government researchers battle a disease that will strike half of all men and a third of all women) is 0.03 percent of what we gave the bandits at American International Group alone? Oh, but veterans benefits and cancer research might cost money. It might require -- dare I say it? -- paying taxes.

If the whiners at Fox News want to advertise their selfishness, they are free to do so. But please don't dress it up as patriotism. Patriotism is putting your country ahead of yourself -- which is the precise opposite of what the tea party plutocrats are doing.
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So you honestly believe that representation is being served when the state of Ohio is getting 136 million dollars for a road survery for a set of 10 counties that serve less than 20,000 motor vehicles?

You think this is good policy?
 
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Cafferty File: Tell Jack how you really feel Blog Archive - What to do about rise in right-wing extremism? - Blogs from CNN.com

Look at the comments that got posted to Cafferty's question "What should be done about a potential increase in right-wing extremism?" These aren't just comments to an article, CNN actually chose which ones to post. This is after the report says that there is no evidence that any of this is even happening. It is plain and simple a report trying to defame normal republicans and incite hatred.

"Right-wing extremism is a fact of life. They do not accumulate guns for nothing. I believe they are sincere in their efforts to prepare for a war, and unfortunately I believe they think it is going to be here. These people are dangerous and fueled by the right-wing nuts on the air."
 
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