Techno-fascism

#77
#77
Matt2496 said:
Nothing to see here.

Google pulls videos accusing it of election manipulation from YouTube... which it owns
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Why does anybody think this is some sort of smoking gun? If an anonymous person put a sign in your yard calling you an ***hole using quotes out of context, and you removed it, do you think that would be evidence that the sign held any truth?

Who thinks the video has any credibility? Why do you find it credible? Is there an uncut video with context for the clips?
 
#78
#78
n_huffhines said:
Why does anybody think this is some sort of smoking gun? If an anonymous person put a sign in your yard calling you an ***hole, and you removed it, do you think that would be evidence that the sign held any truth?

Who thinks the video has any credibility? Why do you find it credible?
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Why I find it credible?

It falls right in line with the ideology that these people hold themselves to. It would not surprise me in the least for them to be manipulating search algorithms against Trump.

Google execs going into hiding, Youtube pulling down videos. Yeah, sure. Everything's fine.
 
#79
#79
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What is the point here of this predictive search screenshot? That there is only one search option for Hillary? Those bastards! What happens if you search it? I bet there is no mention of wikileaks:

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Damn it. OK, but they're still trying to bury the lead. See what happens if you just search "hillary clinton":

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Whoa, Google is totally trying to cover up her emails! They put it 3rd in the predictive search rankings. Mind control!
 
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#80
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Matt2496 said:
Why I find it credible?

It falls right in line with the ideology that these people hold themselves to. It would not surprise me in the least for them to be manipulating search algorithms against Trump.

Google execs going into hiding, Youtube pulling down videos. Yeah, sure. Everything's fine.
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So this is in line with what you believed about her before you saw these out of context clips? I didn't know who she was, so I can't comment. Do we have the whole video? Why not?

If the context is she is saying they want to manipulate results to counter Russian bot manipulation for Trump in 2020, then there is no nefarious plan, but we don't have context.
 
#81
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I wonder if the same people would be complaining if the Murdoch's owned Facebook and Google.
 
#82
#82
n_huffhines said:
Why does anybody think this is some sort of smoking gun? If an anonymous person put a sign in your yard calling you an ***hole using quotes out of context, and you removed it, do you think that would be evidence that the sign held any truth?

Who thinks the video has any credibility? Why do you find it credible? Is there an uncut video with context for the clips?
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Tim Pool has said that he doesn't know who the woman is, but his sources at Google have told him similar things that she said, which is why he tends to find her credible. He won't outright say that she is credible, but he's a very conservative reporter in terms of hedging.
 
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#83
n_huffhines said:
So this is in line with what you believed about her before you saw these out of context clips? I didn't know who she was, so I can't comment. Do we have the whole video? Why not?

If the context is she is saying they want to manipulate results to counter Russian bot manipulation for Trump in 2020, then there is no nefarious plan, but we don't have context.
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Fair point. But in the context of everything we know about big-tech censorship.

Do statements like this

“Elizabeth Warren is saying we should break up Google. And like, I love her but she’s very misguided, like that will not make it better it will make it worse, because all these smaller companies who don’t have the same resources that we do will be charged with preventing the next Trump situation, it’s like a small company cannot do that.”

“We’re also training our algorithms, like, if 2016 happened again, would we have, would the outcome be different?”

not raise any red flags whatsoever?

Also Russian bots didn't influence search results, did they? I thought they were only active on social media.
 
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#88
Jen Gennai responded. I was just guessing that these could be comments about Russian tampering, and that's exactly what she claims. This should be easy to resolve. All Project Veritas has to do is release the full video, unedited. Curious that they haven't already done that. Hopefully, they will.

"Project Veritas has edited the video to make it seem that I am a powerful executive who was confirming that Google is working to alter the 2020 election. On both counts, this is absolute, unadulterated nonsense, of course. In a casual restaurant setting, I was explaining how Google’s Trust and Safety team (a team I used to work on) is working to help prevent the types of online foreign interference that happened in 2016. Google has been very public about the work that our teams have done since 2016 on this, so it’s hardly a revelation."
 
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n_huffhines said:
Jen Gennai responded. I was just guessing that these could be comments about Russian tampering, and that's exactly what she claims. This should be easy to resolve. All Project Veritas has to do is release the full video, unedited. Curious that they haven't already done that. Hopefully, they will.

"Project Veritas has edited the video to make it seem that I am a powerful executive who was confirming that Google is working to alter the 2020 election. On both counts, this is absolute, unadulterated nonsense, of course. In a casual restaurant setting, I was explaining how Google’s Trust and Safety team (a team I used to work on) is working to help prevent the types of online foreign interference that happened in 2016. Google has been very public about the work that our teams have done since 2016 on this, so it’s hardly a revelation."
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Curious that YouTube deleted the video. I wonder what rules it violated. Also, her response never addresses the other things said in the video not pertaining to the election.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Curious that YouTube deleted the video. I wonder what rules it violated. Also, her response never addresses the other things said in the video not pertaining to the election.
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It's not curious at all.

Release the unedited video, Project Veritas. If they do not, we have to accept this as nothing. There is no reason to not release, unless they're misleading us.
 
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