Tee Martin - what is happening now.

I can honestly say I'm one of about 3 fans that just doesn't care whether he comes or not. I think he'd be a nice addition to the staff, but I just don't get so wrapped in nostalgia that I need him to come back.

The fanbase is borderline doing with Tee Martin what they did with Jon Gruden - building him up as the one and only guy that can do the job.

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Yes the kid should be a huge factor here.

I agree. However, what if there are issues between or with Tee's wife and the mother of the kid here? Just pointing out that could go both ways. Right or wrong, that's the reality of these types of situations sometimes.
 
I can honestly say I'm one of about 3 fans that just doesn't care whether he comes or not. I think he'd be a nice addition to the staff, but I just don't get so wrapped in nostalgia that I need him to come back.

The fanbase is borderline doing with Tee Martin what they did with Jon Gruden - building him up as the one and only guy that can do the job.

Seriously... Its nice if he's here, but there are 100 other people out there with no prior connections to Tennessee football that can match his productivity at X position...
 
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Seriously... Its nice if he's here, but there are 100 other people out there with no prior connections to Tennessee football that can match his productivity at X position...

100 other options just as good???


This hire doesn't make or break this staff IMO but to say this isn't accurate.
 
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Well i'll go out on another limb. If Tee has a son playing ball in knoxville, and he is living in LA, and he has a chance to come back and be a bigger part, and he turns it down, I'd have concerns.
Big if's on all of those.

When making big moves in business, I have always concerned myself with how it affects my children. If it would put me in a position to be around all of my kids in one place, I would not hesitate if I could make it work. Would take less money as long as it was enough to provide. I would understand him not coming to UT. But, be confused how he could live that far away from a child when he had the choice. Of course, they make enough money to fly around and he does come to the area to recruit some. But, still not the same.
 
Means his wife likes Southern California better. No its hard to tell what choice he will make.

Yea, we d*$*ed the guy with the wife FROM Tn.

Tee is going home to tell her... Yea I know it was supposed to be Jon Gruden but ....
 
When making big moves in business, I have always concerned myself with how it affects my children. If it would put me in a position to be around all of my kids in one place, I would not hesitate if I could make it work. Would take less money as long as it was enough to provide. I would understand him not coming to UT. But, be confused how he could live that far away from a child when he had the choice. Of course, they make enough money to fly around and he does come to the area to recruit some. But, still not the same.


I'm biased on the subject. I have 3 boys and see them almost everyday. Can't imagine not being around them.
But, I don't know for sure that he has a son in knoxville, and I don't know the circumstances. However, if there is enough relationship to go hang out and watch him play, there is possibly a deeper reason than football to come back.
 
100 other options just as good???


This hire doesn't make or break this staff IMO but to say this isn't accurate.

If someone had a list of recruiter rankings that they could use to tell me where he is on that list, I'd be glad to hear it... I looked briefly, but couldn't find it... It does seem like he's recruiting solid players, but I could recruit solid players to Los Angeles as well...

I was also saying 100 more as a generalization than exactly how many I think could replace him... My point was its not a make or break hire, the fact many people acknowledge that and are still going Gruden Crazy over him is mind-numbing....
 
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He has a son from a previous relationship. He was at Powell middle watching him play b ball tonight per RichRollins and others. I am with you. I would do anything for my kids and if I had to even live in another state, it would drive me crazy.

Glad you have this relationship with your boys and feel the same way as you do.

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If he chooses USC and Lane Kiffin over UT for similar money terms, after parading his family through the airport and the fanfare he received, then that doesn't seem very VFL to me.

Enough bcarter. Out of all the ignorance you spout now you say that our only NCAA Championship quarteback is not a VFL...whatever that is..if he Does not want to come work for a Big East Coach.

I cannot believe that anyone on this board listens to anything you have to say.
 
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Enough bcarter. Out of all the ignorance you spout now you say that our only NCAA Championship quarteback is not a VFL...whatever that is..if he Does not want to come work for a Big East Coach.

I cannot believe that anyone on this board listens to anything you have to say.

For someone calling another person ignorant, WTF is a "Big East Coach"??? Is Saban still a Big10 Coach, Meyer a WAC Coach, Miles a Big12 Coach??? How dumb are Richt and Muschamp, they weren't even coaches...

Explain the thought process please... Let me guess: "Herp derp, herp herp derp..."
 
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Enough bcarter. Out of all the ignorance you spout now you say that our only NCAA Championship quarteback is not a VFL...whatever that is..if he Does not want to come work for a Big East Coach.

I cannot believe that anyone on this board listens to anything you have to say.

Our only NCAA championship QB? Are you an idiot? You do know that we have won more than ONE national championship.
 
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For someone calling another person ignorant, WTF is a "Big East Coach"??? Is Saban still a Big10 Coach, Meyer a WAC Coach, Miles a Big12 Coach??? How dumb are Richt and Muschamp, they weren't even coaches...

Explain the thought process please... Let me guess: "Herp derp, herp herp derp..."

Has Jones coached a single game in the Sec? It is a rhetorical question. That means you don't have to answer it.
 
Give it time. It is a lot to uproot your family (especially if his wife isn't behind it) and move towns, jobs, etc.

No reason to meltdown yet. If he wasn't coming he would know and I think we would know. We will have plenty of time to meltdown should to worse happen.

He is a young, up and coming professional coach; moving comes with the territory! I assure you that moving his family has zero to do with their decision.
 
100 other options just as good???


This hire doesn't make or break this staff IMO but to say this isn't accurate.

Your right. Probably more like 150. This is an attempt to satisfy the fanbase because most of us are nostalgic and dont care about facts, but his coaching resume is less than impressive. New Mexico was 1-11 with Tee as QB coach. Kentucky was.......well they were kentucky and finished at or near the bottom of the SEC. USC and Matt Barkley had one of their worst years in recent memory, although the offense wasnt totally to blame. Tee would recruit well and lord knows we could use some help in that area.
 
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Enough bcarter. Out of all the ignorance you spout now you say that our only NCAA Championship quarteback is not a VFL...whatever that is..if he Does not want to come work for a Big East Coach.

I cannot believe that anyone on this board listens to anything you have to say.

I said it didn't seem right. Can you imagine the hit to recruiting it would possibly be? My point is I cannot imagine him coming here not 99% sure he would accept. I still think he will. Just saying it seems crazy he would even come here if he wasn't almost certain he was coming. It would look very bad to have our VFL NC QB come, interview, then still work for the most hated man in UT history.

Never meant to say he is not VFL meant to say it wouldn't be VFL to make UT look foolish. Him publicly interviewing and turning down would make UT look foolish imo.
 
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Has Jones coached a single game in the Sec? It is a rhetorical question. That means you don't have to answer it.

Is Butch Jones employed by an SEC school??? Yes

Is Urban Meyer employed by an SEC school??? No

Is the SEC better than the big10??? Yes

Therefore, Butch Jones is a better coach than Urban Meyer... Yay, I've mastered dumbass101... Don't be a douchehole because you didn't get the coach of your wet dreams... Why don't you take a pamprin and let things play out...
 
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If the wife purposefully wants to keep her husband away from his son then she should have zero say in his decision.

OK fellers, now you're swingin' at pitches WAY outside the strike zone...

Classic telephone game beginning to fire up here..
 
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Is Butch Jones employed by an SEC school??? Yes

Is Urban Meyer employed by an SEC school??? No

Is the SEC better than the big10??? Yes

Therefore, Butch Jones is a better coach than Urban Meyer... Yay, I've mastered dumbass101... Don't be a douchehole because you didn't get the coach of your wet dreams... Why don't you take a pamprin and let things play out...

Urban Meyers left on his own or he would still be in Florida
But I think CBJ will be in the same category as the top coaches
in the country like Meyers, Spurrier, Saban, Miles..... SOON
But as of now I dont know if he is "better than Meyers" but will see
how it all plays out.
 

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