Tennessee considers withholding monoclonal antibody treatment from vaccinated citizens

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OHvol40 said:
Do you seriously not know? Advocating suicide as the practical alternative to old age… come on, you can’t be serious. What a garbage stance.
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Did I advocate for suicide? No. Your argument was flawed. Your fault not mine.
 
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southgatevol said:
Did I advocate for suicide? No. Your argument was flawed. Your fault not mine.
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Your premise is flawed, and I’m sure there are people reading this who have actually dealt with suicide personally and don’t appreciate you being so caviler with the idea just to be a contrarian.
 
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GVF said:
That is actually an emergency. I'm speaking of all these people, non-covid related, that live in the ER, wasting resources, when there are walk in clinics and doctors offices available. I have never gone to the ER for the flu. If I'm not running a 104 temp, what are they gonna do outside my $800 bill.
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I went in in May for what I thought was appendicitis and turned out to be a boulder of a kidney stone. While rolling in pain in the waiting room a girl comes in for a swollen ankle that she said was already diagnosed as a sprain earlier in the week (by the ER) but the swelling hadn’t dissipated. I thought to myself you have to be *****ing me.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Your premise is flawed, and I’m sure there are people reading this who have actually dealt with suicide personally and don’t appreciate you being so caviler with the idea just to be a contrarian.
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I am sure also. I have had friends myself who regrettably decided not to get old. Depression is a horrible thing. You should relax hold off on the hostile and insulting attitude and make better arguments. Life is short even for the most elderly. Also I apologize if I have offended anyone.
 
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AshG said:
The Tennessean

Due to a high use of monoclonal antibody treatments in southern states resulting in shortages, Tennessee is considering saving the treatments for the unvaccinated.
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So tell me again what the purpose of a vaccine is? 'Vaccinated' people shouldn't need this treatment if it is truly a vaccine should they? I mean help a brother out. Why should a 'vaccinated' person be offered this treatment; only one reason I can think of.
 
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Weight shaming for any reason and making light of suicide aren't helpful or beneficial, nor do they achieve any goal other than the promotion of shame.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Is there a relationship between the sniffles and body weight because certainly there is a correlation between the unvaccinated and taking up hospital resources. The stupid decisions made are costing people their lives. Quite frankly, if you didn't believe the disease was serious enough to warrant the vaccine, I believe that hospital resources should be allocated to those whose poor decisions didn't land them in the hospital. If there is one bed and two patients... one unvaxed covid patient in dire need of medical care and the victim of a car accident in equal need of medical care the triage should be easy.
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Oh. my. God. You cannot be serious.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
So tell me again what the purpose of a vaccine is? 'Vaccinated' people shouldn't need this treatment if it is truly a vaccine should they? I mean help a brother out. Why should a 'vaccinated' person be offered this treatment; only one reason I can think of.
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You've repeatedly made your stance known on this. I think you just copy/paste your snark for self-gratification at this point.
 
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AshG said:
You've repeatedly made your stance known on this. I think you just copy/paste your snark for self-gratification at this point.
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And you have taken a different stance on your position? Why don't you convince me how I am wrong.

And it's not self gratification. It is serious concern as to what I am seeing. None of you vax pushers EVER talk about immunity which for the 60 years I have been around has always been the purpose of a vaccine. Now it is ONLY about getting the ****ing shot.
 
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AshG said:
Weight shaming for any reason and making light of suicide aren't helpful or beneficial, nor do they achieve any goal other than the promotion of shame.
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Nor is accepting obesity as an acceptable lifestyle.
 
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OHvol40 said:
^^^ whines about general statements and then says “The old usually have about 4 or 5 other issues which could be eliminated or avoided if they hadnt ignored medical advice.”
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So the old in your world are just dying of old age? Their bodies just stop producing new cells at a certain rate until they die?
 
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didn't read the article but isn't the shortage in part due to the Biden administration taking over all distribution?

"HHS will determine the amount of product each state and territory receives on a weekly basis. State and territorial health departments will subsequently identify sites that will receive product and how much," the spokesperson said. "This system will help maintain equitable distribution, both geographically and temporally, across the country - providing states and territories with consistent, fairly-distributed supply over the coming weeks."

Biden administration moves to avoid shortages of Covid-19 monoclonal antibody treatments - CNN

was there evidence that states couldn't get it before Team Biden stepped in? Yes demand was high in some key states but those were the states with the highest need.
 
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Health insurance companies just need to add a $500 surcharge for each covered person not vaccinated.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
First off I agree with your statement as presented.

Now if this is in response to the feds rationing out MAb like they did in Florida (they gave them half of their request and they have plenty stockpiled) the Feds are interfering with healthcare to start. If this is Tennessee’s reply to the same situation while it’s political tit for tat and can understand I still don’t like it.
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Wrong is wrong is wrong. This thread op is about TN. So yes they are wrong. This is they type of standard we have to hold to get things better.
 
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luthervol said:
Health insurance companies just need to add a $500 surcharge for each covered person not vaccinated.
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Is there a cost based analysis that shows this $500 offsets the extra incurred group risk or is this just another punitive number you grabbed out of your ass like every other one you’ve proposed on every topic you’ve responded to. Just so we’re clear that is a rhetorical question.
 
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AshG said:
Weight shaming for any reason and making light of suicide aren't helpful or beneficial, nor do they achieve any goal other than the promotion of shame.
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Weight shaming and making light of suicide is one thing. Trying to have an actual conversation about either is another. They cant be ignored, that's the problem now.
 
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Whenever people express concern about authoritarian tendencies of those who advocate more government they get called conspiracy theorists but this thread demonstrates the zeal with which some would dearly love the power of reward and punishment over those who share or disagree with their viewpoints.
 
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