Tennessee considers withholding monoclonal antibody treatment from vaccinated citizens

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utvolpj said:
What are your ideas around punitive measures for the unvaccinated? You can't have punitive measures but still allow them to receive the same care as everyone else right? Or are you going to make them now pay some out of pocket for this universal care?
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It would probably be financial.
 
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luthervol said:
Only to generate thought.
Some nuts on here would get the vax if it saved them $500, but they will avoid the vax as long at the cost is being spread across the whole system.

I just want some of those nuts to realize that is what they are doing.
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You categorizing them as 'nuts' doesn't further your argument. And I am willing to walk away from my job because of this thing. (well they will have to fire me) Care to compare W2s?
 
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luthervol said:
Health insurance companies just need to add a $500 surcharge for each covered person not vaccinated.
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Around 12% of our country has tested positive for Covid and of that 12% somewhere around 3% ended up in the hospital. Meanwhile at least half our country is considered obese. Who exactly is the real threat to our healthcare system? What should the fat surcharge be?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
And therein lies my problem with this whole damned thing... Nobody is talking about immunity, and those that do get shouted down or outright cancelled on SM. It is either 'vaxxed' or 'unvaxxed'. That's it. And THAT is what is so inconceivably wrong with this whole thing. THAT is why 'vaxxed' people are spreading this thing as well as 'unvaxxed'. The virus has already mutated beyond the original strain that the 'vaccine' was designed for. duuuuuh, didn't see THAT coming. But that hasn't stopped the full on push to get that **** in our bodies has it?
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It's more of the binary / dualistic ish that I can't stand, what you're talking about. I have several friends who are fully vaxxed and have been hit hard despite having their little card to wave. Healthy friends, at that. I've lost count of the number of times I've taken the flu vaccine then gotten the flu that season.

I took the vaccine with the hope that it helps me and maybe keeps me from infecting someone else. Yay, good for me. I get a sticker. But given the number of mutations and the efficacy against those mutations, it's a whole new ballgame. It's not a binary decision, and it shouldn't be treated as such.

I'm pretty pissed off myself. The world has gone mad. Especially our little corner of it.
 
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AshG said:
It's more of the binary / dualistic ish that I can't stand, what you're talking about. I have several friends who are fully vaxxed and have been hit hard despite having their little card to wave. Healthy friends, at that. I've lost count of the number of times I've taken the flu vaccine then gotten the flu that season.

I took the vaccine with the hope that it helps me and maybe keeps me from infecting someone else. Yay, good for me. I get a sticker. But given the number of mutations and the efficacy against those mutations, it's a whole new ballgame. It's not a binary decision, and it shouldn't be treated as such.

I'm pretty pissed off myself. The world has gone mad. Especially our little corner of it.
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I am conservative, have had the virus, and am vaccinated. I do not believe in shaming anyone for not being vaccinated. It was a personal decision to avoid the possibility of infecting others as the virus did not affect me very much at all. Do not understand shaming anyone as it is a personal choice and understand some hesitancy. Mandating was an idiotic approach....
 
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Velo Vol said:
Weird that doesn't match the headline.

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it does - the chosen rationing method prioritizes unvaxxed over vaxxed. The rationing is necessary due to the HHS take over of distribution. Until that take over the rationing was not necessary.

I don't agree with the method but it has some logic in that the vaxxed are much less likely to have a medical need for the treatment (though it's not a perfect correlation).
 
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volinbham said:
I don't agree with the method but it has some logic in that the vaxxed are much less likely to have a medical need for the treatment (though it's not a perfect correlation).
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OK, found this thread and this point matches.




The unvaxxinated are objectively likely to be worse off, more needy of medical intervention. Duh.
 
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OHvol40 said:
The unvaccinated (who are not otherwise CONCLUSIVELY inoculated) that have “done the research” and “evaluated their risk” need to stop showing up at the ED with shortness of breath and sudden loss of taste & smell. You evaluated your risk, now keep your a** at home and take cough syrup and leave the ED beds for old ladies who broke their hips and heart attacks.
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There’s some truth in this, but it’s not a vaccinated/unvaccinated issue. A lot of the people showing up with minor complaints are the vaccinated because the media has convinced them this is worst virus known to man and that they’ll die immediately.

Both groups need to stop going to the ER just because they have covid. The same as people who need to stop going to the Er for nausea, herpes, dehydration, vertigo, etc (all things I’ve seen people call ambulances for).
 
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If this idea came from the NIH, rather than the braintrust in Nashville, it's not as politically perverse as the headline suggests.
 
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