Tennessee Football boldly supporting BLM

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BreatheUT said:
Sorry to hear about your friend.

Yeah it is amazing we keep hearing cases of a blatant lack of respect for the polices authority. Kist comply and handle it in court. Apparently the guy in Wisconsin had a record and open warrant. Then didn't obey the policers commands and proceeded to the vehicle. I think the main thing is for the facts to come out. Something the left doesn't want to wait on. Jumping to conclusions help their positions.
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I live for the day when some owners of destroyed businesses start taking the news to court over stuff like this. Take a little blowup and turn it into riots that you can cover for days and weeks until something better comes along - while never accepting responsibility for lives lost or damages. Imagine - a riot without the press would be something like throwing a war and nobody showed up .... meaningless.
 
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Nerwen Aldarion said:
The national group that says on their webpage their ultimate goal is to destroy the nuclear family????
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Again, I'm not sure their protest is affiliated with the national group. Hence why I said that in my original post.

I'm not saying I agree that the whole country is racist because it's not. What I am saying is they weren't bothering me or anyone else so as long as that's the case then I don't care what they do.
 
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AM64 said:
You know, though, it's a problem when a cop shoots someone 7 times in the back at point blank range and doesn't kill him - on a whole lot of levels.

From a deadly serious perspective, I probably look at a lot of this from a lot different viewpoint. We had a very good friend - a retired Navy officer, who was shot and killed inside his house by a cop. There was some local coverage, but absolutely nothing national - he was white. Unlike several of the black victims, he was never even addressed by the police - he was shot through a window when he went downstairs in the middle of the night to see what the disturbance was without ever knowing what the noise he heard was. The point is that there was nothing sensational to the news people - absolutely no reason because it didn't fit their liberal agenda.

Without doubt the police have been militarized to the point that they don't even consider themselves civil enforcement. If we were actually making this an issue of police oversight and reasserting the rightful role of the police, then this would be all about all lives matter - not just those of one group. If "defunding" meant taking away military vehicles, uniforms, tactics, and arrogance, then I think many of us would back that reform. 9/11 put in place a real knee jerk reaction that we are paying for today.

The other issue that no one seems to be addressing is who has control of an agenda. When a cop stops someone, the cop is in control - that's just simple fact like it or not. I don't because by nature I abhor authority, but I accept it exists and sometime I have to respect it. When somebody turns his back and walks away from a cop, he just took control away from the cop. I'm convinced that between militarization and sometimes hiring cops whose heads aren't screwed on tight (they want to play cop for the wrong reason), there is no way that the cop will cede control willingly. To me the person most responsible was the guy who turned his back on the cop and basically said "screw you" - that's not going to end well ... ever.
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Sir, I thoroughly enjoyed reading your material today. Very nice job articulating those thoughts.
 
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AM64 said:
Yes, there are real problems needing solutions, but where do the problems originate and who continues them. In your point about black women and abortion I certainly get the point, but who besides those black women set themselves up for needing/wanting an abortion? Except in terms of rape (which still remains illegal), pregnancy is basically a choice - sometimes the choice simply being prepared to abstain or take preventive measures. Hopefully we can acknowledge that is personal choice and not systemic incompetence on the part of black women.

To me the biggest issue here is and always has been one element - education, and whether people chose to take advantage of it or choose to fail. I hope we don't believe that some races or ethnicities are unable to learn rather than believe that their social systems don't value education. My cardiologist (for 30+ years) is black; I have literally put my life in his hands. By percentage your faith (as I recall) turns out tons more doctors than the black population, and that same faith has faced real systemic "racism" (for lack of a better term). Life is what we make of it - starting at a time we ourselves are guided by parents and other adults; if those who guide go with the message that you are and have been oppressed and can't get by in this other person's world, how do we expect those children to succeed?
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Agreed but it also comes back to the welfare system with education. Under that system the father is driven out of the home and the local education in the poor communities is always the worst performers. There are solutions but it starts with getting rid of the people who have been there for decades on both sides of the isles. If they could fix it they would have
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Again, I'm not sure their protest is affiliated with the national group. Hence why I said that in my original post.

I'm not saying I agree that the whole country is racist because it's not. What I am saying is they weren't bothering me or anyone else so as long as that's the case then I don't care what they do.
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So if the UT Chancellor hung a swastika in her living room, that is ok?
 
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VolStrom said:
You and your ilk are doing a great job of bringing racism back. Keep up the rioting and looting and watch what happens.
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“You better drop this protest or we promise to get even more racist!!”

Lol ok, kinda telling on yourself but whatever
 
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allvol123 said:
And you'd be fine with her keeping the job?
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Where are you heading with this? Are you suggesting Pruitt should be fired for allowing his players to participate in a peaceful protest?

I will agree that the chancellor is a huge hypocrite for allowing this to take place while expelling kids for not social distancing
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Depending on the context.
I’ve got some dead nazis stuff and a collection of guns used to kill them.
Bottom line, we need to get back to being able to have a conversation and not jump to cancel everything we see we don’t like
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I agree with you.

But I mean in the context of I support the beliefs of the Third Reich.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Depending on the context.
I’ve got some dead nazis stuff and a collection of guns used to kill them.
Bottom line, we need to get back to being able to have a conversation and not jump to cancel everything we see we don’t like
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This all day, ITS OK TO AGREE TO DISAGREE FOLKS. Just because you don't like it or your feelings are hurt doesn't mean that person should lose everything
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Where are you heading with this? Are you suggesting Pruitt should be fired for allowing his players to participate in a peaceful protest?

I will agree that the chancellor is a huge hypocrite for allowing this to take place while expelling kids for not social distancing
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No, I'm not suggesting that he be fired. He would have no power to stop it.

More that you say that it's ok since they didnt bother anyone. So you're ok with people espousing hateful beliefs so long as they dont bother anyone? Is that the bar, because we dont seem to be consistent with it. I see people being cancelled from jobs for more words.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I just saw a piece on television where single mom's who have lost their jobs during COVID-19 are struggling to pay rent/mortgage. This one mom and young kid was having to sleep in her car. A good samaritan helped get a hotel room for a few days.

Disclosure: I didn't see the entire piece. I don't know where her family is. I don't know if the lady that helped is part of an organization. I don't know if she was getting $600 a week unemployment benefits and if that was more or less than she was making on her job. I do know it was sad.

Then it got me to thinking, why are groups like the NBA and Hollywood not trying to help people like this. It doesn't move the needle for them that is why. They don't want to help real people. They want to help lawbreakers. They want power. Instead of taking personal responsibilities to help organizations that enrich people lives they want a "look at me" podium. They are doing the left's business. They are trying to find a way to win the election. They don't care about who is really struggling. They don't care about real sustainable solutions.
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Athletes help people like this all the time...
 
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I was a huge Tennessee Fan fan since as long as I can remember. I went to many games and many bowls to see my beloved Vols play, including the ‘99 Fiesta Bowl where we won it all.
That said, with the Team now supporting and marching for a COMMUNIST and Anti-American organization in Black Lives Matter (funded by communist George Soros) I am no longer a Vol. My flag and my country mean more than a stupid sport.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Depending on the context.
I’ve got some dead nazis stuff and a collection of guns used to kill them.
Bottom line, we need to get back to being able to have a conversation and not jump to cancel everything we see we don’t like
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!
 
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allvol123 said:
No, I'm not suggesting that he be fired. He would have no power to stop it.

More that you say that it's ok since they didnt bother anyone. So you're ok with people espousing hateful beliefs so long as they dont bother anyone? Is that the bar, because we dont seem to be consistent with it. I see people being cancelled from jobs for more words.
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Again, did they bother anyone or do anything hurtful? No

Its the same as saying me and you ( I assume you'll be voting for Trump ) are automatically associated with the alt right or kkk because we show up in November to vote for Trump
 
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