Tennessee Vols Basketball Recruiting

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bleedingTNorange said:
I will say even if increased attention came as being “the guy” he won’t even be close to “the guy” at Tennessee, so if he can be a 40% shooter from deep on just open 3’s that would be more than enough. He’s also a good 2pt shooter for a guard and gets to the line about twice as much as anyone on our roster did this year, so that would also be a positive.
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If he bounces back from a 30% year, a season off, and an injury to shoot 40%, he’ll be well liked. I agree.
 
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I'll speculate that Ace Baldwin Jr. is the mystery PG bTo is talking about!

This season he shot 41.3% from 3, had 5.5 assist per game, while scoring 11.4 ppg. Also had 2.5 spg (so higher assist and steals per game than KC had...but high turnovers).
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
I think his 3 dropped from 39+ to 30-31 from 2019-20 to 2020-21.
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39 to 32, saying he was 30% doesn’t seem entirely transparent…probably also worth mentioning that that he was 36% from 3 in conference play that year, he just had a a horribly cold OOC stretch that year where he shot about 20% over 6-7 games.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
39 to 32, saying he was 30% doesn’t seem entirely transparent…probably also worth mentioning that that he was 36% from 3 in conference play that year, he just had a a horribly cold OOC stretch that year where he shot about 20% over 6-7 games.
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I’m not sure rounding a point from memory implies malicious opacity. I also don’t know exactly what you’re selling. He’s a good shot. He had a meaningfully lower 3 point average the last season he played. Then he had a surgery and sat a year. If you have him shooting 40% on the other side of all that, against substantially better competition, that’d be a great year. If he’s doing that for our team, I support it.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I'll speculate that Ace Baldwin Jr. is the mystery PG bTo is talking about!

This season he shot 41.3% from 3, had 5.5 assist per game, while scoring 11.4 ppg. Also had 2.5 spg (so higher assist and steals per game than KC had...but high turnovers).
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I guessed the same
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
I’m not sure rounding a point from memory implies malicious opacity. I also don’t know exactly what you’re selling. He’s a good shot. He had a meaningfully lower 3 point average the last season he played. Then he had a surgery and sat a year. If you have him shooting 40% on the other side of all that, against substantially better competition, that’d be a great year. If he’s doing that for our team, I support it.
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31.6% isn't 30% though...

It was also the limited preparation COVID season, and he missed 2 games that year. I mean if the shoulder issues were enough to miss an entire season I can see that being more to blame than anything. Hell Lamonte Turner shot 23.4% from 3 in his last season here, but most people don't say he's a bad shooter from deep they logically blame the shoulder issues.

If you just remove the 3 games where key shot 0% from 3 then that percentage goes from 31.6% to 37.9%. He just had far less volume to offset those handful of poor shooting nights. Didn't even have 100 attempts that season.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I like Tyreke Key as an option, especially if you feel good about traction with 2023 recruits and landing some of the guards in that class you're looking at.

He was the primary ball handler and also the primary scorer, here he'd get the ability to do less of both when on the court. In his 4 year career he's never finished a season with more than 2 turnovers a game on average. Even though his 3 PT shooting dipped last season, he's a career 37.4% shooter from deep. Rebounds well and generates steals too. Shoots good from every where and his career 2PT % is over 50%. Also really good size at 6'3" and 200lbs+

Probably more of a plug and play option to take the pressure off ZZ/BJE to full fill KC's shoes and also would allow them to keep Santi as the off guard the majority of the time.

Not my personal first choice for a transfer PG...but I trust the staff.

Also are we not pursuing Isaiah West in state for the '23 class 4 star guy and is a top 100 national player.
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West's stock has been steadily dropping since his initial ranking. I'm not sure Tennessee is even recruiting him with great interest.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I see Key as bringing depth at guard, an ability to play PG but that that probably wouldn’t be his primary position and I see them still looking to add an actual transfer PG even if they were to add Key. I think they like the 1 year piece and like what he would potentially bring to the table.
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Yeah, I think so, too. Key is not really an on-ball guard. More in the Vescovi mold.
 
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CornbreadVol said:
He also never denied Yuri Collins👀
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Man...his turnovers are ridiculously high though. Ouch!

4.1 this season and a career 3.3 guy over 3 seasons. Also has only shot 50 3s once in his career in a season, so no clue if he's a real threat from there or not. I'd rather it be Baldwin of those 2, one guy has been a starter for 3 years getting almost 30 mpg and has always been low volume from deep and had high turnovers. The other guy has shown progression in his 2 seasons, his 3PT % increasing with more volume.

I think the extra year of eligibility is the main deciding factor for me personally picking Ace over Yuri though.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I'll speculate that Ace Baldwin Jr. is the mystery PG bTo is talking about!

This season he shot 41.3% from 3, had 5.5 assist per game, while scoring 11.4 ppg. Also had 2.5 spg (so higher assist and steals per game than KC had...but high turnovers).
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He doesn't fit the parameter of having 1 more year of eligibility, 2 if he uses his Covid year. Baldwin would have 2/3 years left.

I'm sticking with my initial guess of Yuri Collins from St. Louis. He fits every parameter mentioned...
•Elite distributor - led the nation in assts/gm.
•Elite defender - A-10 All-defensive team
•Moderate scorer - 11.1 ppg
•Great FT shooter - 81.5% last year
•Good 3-pt shooter - 36.2% last year
•True junior with 1-2 years of eligibility
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
31.6% isn't 30% though...

It was also the limited preparation COVID season, and he missed 2 games that year. I mean if the shoulder issues were enough to miss an entire season I can see that being more to blame than anything. Hell Lamonte Turner shot 23.4% from 3 in his last season here, but most people don't say he's a bad shooter from deep they logically blame the shoulder issues.

If you just remove the 3 games where key shot 0% from 3 then that percentage goes from 31.6% to 37.9%. He just had far less volume to offset those handful of poor shooting nights. Didn't even have 100 attempts that season.
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And 38.9 isn’t 40. And averages count bad games too. Maybe he’ll come here. Maybe he’ll shoot 40% from 3 against better defenses after shoulder surgery. Maybe he won’t.
 
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cncchris33 said:
He doesn't fit the parameter of having 1 more year of eligibility, 2 if he uses his Covid year. Baldwin would have 2/3 years left.

I'm sticking with my initial guess of Yuri Collins from St. Louis. He fits every parameter mentioned...
•Elite distributor - led the nation in assts/gm.
•Elite defender - A-10 All-defensive team
•Moderate scorer - 11.1 ppg
•Great FT shooter - 81.5% last year
•Good 3-pt shooter - 36.2% last year
•True junior with 1-2 years of eligibility
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Oh I’ve missed all these hints. Yeah definitely looks like he would fit the bill
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
And 38.9 isn’t 40. And averages count bad games too. Maybe he’ll come here. Maybe he’ll shoot 40% from 3 against better defenses after shoulder surgery. Maybe he won’t.
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I think the point was just that you seemingly were calling him a 30% shooter when he wasn’t, implying he shot poorly for his whole senior season when he didn’t, and in fact outside of a 6 game cold stretch to start the season his shooting was right on par with his other seasons.
 
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