Tennessee Vols Basketball Recruiting

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Is Courtney Ramey a possibility at all? I know his father said we'd been in contact. He'd be good enough to split time with ZZ on a basically equal basis and allow BJ much more time to develop.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Is Courtney Ramey a possibility at all? I know his father said we'd been in contact. He'd be good enough to split time with ZZ on a basically equal basis and allow BJ much more time to develop.
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I’ve asked about him but heard nothing cause he would make a ton of sense, has a bit of a Rod Clark connection too…Nova fans seem to think he’s headed there.
 
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johnfnkelly said:
Disagree. You saw what happened when Turner went out. Things turned into a sh*tshow pretty quickly when teams began putting pressure on SV.

Even now he still struggles going to his right. ZZ is quick but was very TO prone when he ran point.
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Yeah, but I feel like people in this thread are arguing two different things. This discussion started because we were discussing how far down the list people would be willing to go to find a PG that could spot fill if ZZ or BJE got hurt. People then said they would be willing to go pretty far down the list to the recesses of mid-majors or below just to get a guy that can dribble the basketball.

Personally, I’m not certain anyone THAT far down the list would be any better against P5 competition running the point than the guards we have now. I think I would trust Josiah running point over someone with little true experience against high-caliber competition.

I just don’t see the need to fill the spot if we’re going to be dumpster diving for a guy that isn’t any better than what we have.

Personally, I’d rather keep the scholarship open. We’re a lot more flush with guards than the year Turner went down. Our roster is far more talented than that team was.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Yeah, but I feel like people in this thread are arguing two different things. This discussion started because we were discussing how far down the list people would be willing to go to find a PG that could spot fill if ZZ or BJE got hurt. People then said they would be willing to go pretty far down the list to the recesses of mid-majors or below just to get a guy that can dribble the basketball.

Personally, I’m not certain anyone THAT far down the list would be any better against P5 competition running the point than the guards we have now. I think I would trust Josiah running point over someone with little true experience against high-caliber competition.

I just don’t see the need to fill the spot if we’re going to be dumpster diving for a guy that isn’t any better than what we have.

Personally, I’d rather keep the scholarship open. We’re a lot more flush with guards than the year Turner went down. Our roster is far more talented than that team was.
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UT originally recruited JJJ as a "big PG" but abandoned that pretty quickly and they haven't gone back to it. So the JJJ as a PG option being floated around on here seems incredibly misguided and uninformed.

Let JJJ continue to play to his strengths and playing PG isn't it.
 
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Vols8086 said:
UT originally recruited JJJ as a "big PG" but abandoned that pretty quickly and they haven't gone back to it. So the JJJ as a PG option being floated around on here seems incredibly misguided and uninformed.

Let JJJ continue to play to his strengths and playing PG isn't it.
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I think BJE, Santi and Key would all get cracks at it before JJJ.
 
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Vols8086 said:
UT originally recruited JJJ as a "big PG" but abandoned that pretty quickly and they haven't gone back to it. So the JJJ as a PG option being floated around on here seems incredibly misguided and uninformed.

Let JJJ continue to play to his strengths and playing PG isn't it.
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Well, to be fair, I didn’t say JJJ was my preference for PG. That’s a disingenuous framing of my argument. I’m saying I don’t feel the need to go so far down the list of available options when we are flush with guards. Do I want to add an additional PG? Absolutely. But, I don’t think we should unless it’s someone that is ready to make a real impact on this team and not just be depth on the off-chance ZZ, BJE, Vescovi, or Key gets hurt. Anyone willing to be that type of guy and wait patiently for a spot to open up on the floor due to injuries probably isn’t someone any better than what we have on the roster.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Yeah, but I feel like people in this thread are arguing two different things. This discussion started because we were discussing how far down the list people would be willing to go to find a PG that could spot fill if ZZ or BJE got hurt. People then said they would be willing to go pretty far down the list to the recesses of mid-majors or below just to get a guy that can dribble the basketball.

Personally, I’m not certain anyone THAT far down the list would be any better against P5 competition running the point than the guards we have now. I think I would trust Josiah running point over someone with little true experience against high-caliber competition.

I just don’t see the need to fill the spot if we’re going to be dumpster diving for a guy that isn’t any better than what we have.

Personally, I’d rather keep the scholarship open. We’re a lot more flush with guards than the year Turner went down. Our roster is far more talented than that team was.
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The only issue I have with Josiah running the point is he’s not aggressive attacking the rim nor has the speed to beat defenders.

He’s a mid range shooter who occasionally shoots the three but isn’t really a player who can run an offense.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
The only issue I have with Josiah running the point is he’s not aggressive attacking the rim nor has the speed to beat defenders.

He’s a mid range shooter who occasionally shoots the three but isn’t really a player who can run an offense.
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Think you got that backwards - he’s a 3 point shooter that occasionally shoots the midrange
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I’ve asked about him but heard nothing cause he would make a ton of sense, has a bit of a Rod Clark connection too…Nova fans seem to think he’s headed there.
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Maybe things will shake out more when Hunter decides. I know he declared for the draft too and has until June 1st to pull out. I've not heard if he did yet or not. I can't find anything about him taking any visits or anything else.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Maybe things will shake out more when Hunter decides. I know he declared for the draft too and has until June 1st to pull out. I've not heard if he did yet or not. I can't find anything about him taking any visits or anything else.
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He’s visited Purdue, Gonzaga, and Tennessee. Visits Texas this weekend. Then he is done. It is said Texas will be his last visit.

Texas is apparently the heavy favorite to land him, but Tennessee has been said to still have a real outside shot at getting his services. I’m biased obviously, but I personally don’t see the appeal of Texas over any of his other options. You certainly can’t argue “development” as I think the other 3 head coaches have a far better track record of producing pro players than Chris Beard.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
He’s visited Purdue, Gonzaga, and Tennessee. Visits Texas this weekend. Then he is done. It is said Texas will be his last visit.

Texas is apparently the heavy favorite to land him, but Tennessee has been said to still have a real outside shot at getting his services. I’m biased obviously, but I personally don’t see the appeal of Texas over any of his other options. You certainly can’t argue “development” as I think the other 3 head coaches have a far better track record of producing pro players than Chris Beard.
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I didn't mean Hunter taking visits. I meant Ramey. He declared and entered the portal but I've not seen any visits by him any place. Him leaving Texas is why they are so all in on Hunter.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
He’s visited Purdue, Gonzaga, and Tennessee. Visits Texas this weekend. Then he is done. It is said Texas will be his last visit.

Texas is apparently the heavy favorite to land him, but Tennessee has been said to still have a real outside shot at getting his services. I’m biased obviously, but I personally don’t see the appeal of Texas over any of his other options. You certainly can’t argue “development” as I think the other 3 head coaches have a far better track record of producing pro players than Chris Beard.
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Walk in to a 35mpg starting PG spot on a Top 15 team 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I think BJE, Santi and Key would all get cracks at it before JJJ.
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Oh absolutely. I was just responding after seeing more than a couple posts suggesting JJJ as a viable alternative. I don't think he is a viable alternative at that position at all and I'm not sure the coaching staff does either.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Well, to be fair, I didn’t say JJJ was my preference for PG. That’s a disingenuous framing of my argument. I’m saying I don’t feel the need to go so far down the list of available options when we are flush with guards. Do I want to add an additional PG? Absolutely. But, I don’t think we should unless it’s someone that is ready to make a real impact on this team and not just be depth on the off-chance ZZ, BJE, Vescovi, or Key gets hurt. Anyone willing to be that type of guy and wait patiently for a spot to open up on the floor due to injuries probably isn’t someone any better than what we have on the roster.
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Well, to be fair, I didn't say that you said JJJ was your preference.

I don't think JJJ should be viewed as an option at PG at all, yet his name keeps popping up around here (yourself included) as an option. Nothing disingenuous about that.

I think PG is a much larger need than a lot seem to be making it out to be. I love ZZ, but I don't know if he can be Batman. He can be Robin, but I don't know that I want to head into a season with ZZ being the only true PG. I see BJE to be more of a combo guard, but I do think he and ZZ can share the floor together much like KC and ZZ did last year. However, depending on a true freshman is a tall task and he isn't as good as KC. We have already done the Vescovi as a PG experiment and I think we all agree we would rather him be off the ball and Key looks like a Victor Bailey replacement in that you hope he can come in with the 2nd unit and score. Yuri Collins would have been so perfect as the KC replacement, but I think it is imperative they add another primary ball handler to this team if they are to have a chance at reaching their potential.
 
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should've offered Lofton a deal he couldn't turn down. "pAcKaGE dEaL"

Prob going to be left with ZZ, which is fine, just wish we would have gotten a transfer.
 
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