Texas A&M coming to the SEC????

[Muschump]

There is never going to be a "We don't need anymore money" scenario that you can argue intelligently.

You still haven't given a reason(there isn't one) that more money is going to help UT win more games, so I'd say it's going pretty well up to this point.

 

[Muschump]

Are you really that dense. Really?!? Money = better facilities and many more advantages and luxuries. It matters. It matters a lot.
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Yea, it would matter if we didn't already have the best of everything (when the facilities are complete) and we continue to rake in massive amounts of cash.

The only logical reason is to help the other athletic programs at the school, and I've made it pretty clear I couldn't care less about the golf team.

 

[VOLtownUSA]

Yea, it would matter if we didn't already have the best of everything (when the facilities are complete) and we continue to rake in massive amounts of cash.

The only logical reason is to help the other athletic programs at the school, and I've made it pretty clear I couldn't care less about the golf team.

But you're not the one making the decision. Those other athletic programs that you couldn't care less about are still a part of the university. They matter, your opinion doesn't.

 

[droski]

there is no such thing as "enough money" when it comes to college football budgets.

 

[Muschump]

But you're not the one making the decision. Those other athletic programs that you couldn't care less about are still a part of the university. They matter, your opinion doesn't.

Cool let's let Mike Slive and the SEC presidents discuss ITT, we'll all surely enjoy reading the opinions of those that matter on this message board. Will be fun.

 

[Muschump]

there is no such thing as "enough money" when it comes to college football budgets.

Your team doesn't play in the SEC. The fact that the football program has enough money left over to help the gymnastics team proves your point 100% false.

 

[VOLtownUSA]

Cool let's let Mike Slive and the SEC presidents discuss ITT, we'll all surely enjoy reading the opinions of those that matter on this message board. Will be fun.

The point I was making is that for the people making the decision, those things do matter.

 

[tri_vol]

Your team doesn't play in the SEC. The fact that the football program has enough money left over to help the gymnastics team proves your point 100% false.

SEC teams are like Microsoft, Berkshire Hathaway, Exxon Mobile in business. When you are a titan in your field you never have enough money.
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[droski]

Your team doesn't play in the SEC. The fact that the football program has enough money left over to help the gymnastics team proves your point 100% false.

my team is about to gets it's tv revenues tripled and therefore the sec needs to add money to keep the money advantage it used to have. and most major programs fund the other sports. but having enough money to pay your coach and your assistants whatever you want cannot be discounted. i very much doubt you would have ended up with dooley if tenn was willing to pay a head coach in saban range.

 

[knucklehead_vol]

You still haven't given a reason(there isn't one) that more money is going to help UT win more games, so I'd say it's going pretty well up to this point.

And you still haven't given a reason why ATM or any other team is diluting the league.

 

[bamawriter]

You still haven't given a reason(there isn't one) that more money is going to help UT win more games, so I'd say it's going pretty well up to this point.

Every program in the country could always use more money. Whether it's for facilities, staff salaries, or boosting the school's other athletic programs, your football team can never make too much money.

If you can't see how facilities and staff salaries contribute to winning games, then you know so little about college athletics that no one could possibly explain this issue to you.

 

[Muschump]

my team is about to gets it's tv revenues tripled and therefore the sec needs to add money to keep the money advantage it used to have. and most major programs fund the other sports. but having enough money to pay your coach and your assistants whatever you want cannot be discounted. i very much doubt you would have ended up with dooley if tenn was willing to pay a head coach in saban range.

Tennessee has the money to pay Saban, I'm not Mike Hamilton so I can't tell you why they hired Dooley. And we need money to keep up with the Pac-12? Again, the fallacy is that it's money keeping the SEC on top, when it's actually talent.

 

[utvolpj]

And you still haven't given a reason why ATM or any other team is diluting the league.

what do they really add? If we're just grabbing teams to reach some number then the league doesn't really benefit that much

 

[Muschump]

If you can't see how facilities and staff salaries contribute to winning games, then you know so little about college athletics that no one could possibly explain this issue to you.

Dude ,Tennessee is about to have brand new facilities that match any in the country. What in the hell are you talking about facilities? You act like were going to be the damn sisters of the poor if we don't add A&M or some other second-rate dump solely for TV dollars.

 

[droski]

Tennessee has the money to pay Saban, I'm not Mike Hamilton so I can't tell you why they hired Dooley. And we need money to keep up with the Pac-12? Again, the fallacy is that it's money keeping the SEC on top, when it's actually talent.

you think it's a coincidence that the SEC has so many elite coaches? i don't think the talent is drawing the coaches. at least not primarily. until recently the other conferences, in general, couldnt' compete with the sec for top notch coaches and assistants. that is about to change. if you think coaching salaries are nuts now, just wait 5 years.

 

[knucklehead_vol]

what do they really add? If we're just grabbing teams to reach some number then the league doesn't really benefit that much

They have an excellent tradition, the school itself is excellent in academics (a problem the SEC has lived with for years), they have A LOT of money, there endowment is ridiculous. They are good competition, opens the SEC to more households(Dallas and Houston). SEC is not adding just to add, its about staying ahead of the curve, which some people don't get.

So you tell me what the negatives are because mushchump isn't going to.

 

[bamawriter]

what do they really add? If we're just grabbing teams to reach some number then the league doesn't really benefit that much

They add tons of television sets, which means they add a ton of money.

They also provide a school in a state that most SEC teams recruit heavily. Being able to tell a recruit that he can play in the SEC and still play at least one game close to home every other year is huge. Why do you think SEC teams are getting in on the yearly game at Cowboys stadium?

Lastly, the SEC cannot risk falling behind in the conference realignment that appears to be inevitable.

 

[utvolpj]

They have an excellent tradition, the school itself is excellent in academics (a problem the SEC has lived with for years), they have A LOT of money, there endowment is ridicoulous. They are good competion, opens the SEC to more households(Dallas and Houston). SEc is not adding just to add, its about staying ahead of the curve, which some people don't get.

So you tell me what the negatives are becasue mushchump isn't going to.

what curve? Seems the last few NC's would say the SEC is well ahead of it.

we're already on national tv every week so who are we really opening to SEC football? If they wanted to watch they would already. Plus it's not like we're adding the best from that state.

It make the piece of the pie smaller for those teams already in the SEC while allowing some disgruntled teams the opportunity to piggyback off their successes.

Those others need the SEC way more than the SEC needs them

They add tons of television sets, which means they add a ton of money.

They also provide a school in a state that most SEC teams recruit heavily. Being able to tell a recruit that he can play in the SEC and still play at least one game close to home every other year is huge. Why do you think SEC teams are getting in on the yearly game at Cowboys stadium?

Lastly, the SEC cannot risk falling behind in the conference realignment that appears to be inevitable.

the sets already exist and like I said we aren't grabbing the biggest in the state. If we're going to do it just do it right.

 

[bamawriter]

Dude ,Tennessee is about to have brand new facilities that match any in the country. What in the hell are you talking about facilities? You act like were going to be the damn sisters of the poor if we don't add A&M or some other second-rate dump solely for TV dollars.

You're logic would make sense if Tennessee plans on never doing any more facility upgrades from here to eternity. But I'm sure they will, so having as much money as possible would be quite helpful.

 

[Muschump]

Lastly, the SEC cannot risk falling behind in the conference realignment that appears to be inevitable.

It's not going to happen bro.

Other conferences adding mediocre teams is not going to impact the SEC. We still have UT, BAMA, BARN, FLA, LSU, UGA... No conference is going to be better no matter how many Colorados or Mizzous they add.

 

[Muschump]

You're logic would make sense if Tennessee plans on never doing any more facility upgrades from here to eternity. But I'm sure they will, so having as much money as possible would be quite helpful.

They have the money to upgrades now? Why wouldn't they in the future? Building materials going up? WTF

Again, you're acting like every program is going to go broke if we don't add the Houston/Dallas TV market.

 

[bamawriter]

what curve? Seems the last few NC's would say the SEC is well ahead of it.

we're already on national tv every week so who are we really opening to SEC football? If they wanted to watch they would already. Plus it's not like we're adding the best from that state.

It make the piece of the pie smaller for those teams already in the SEC while allowing some disgruntled teams the opportunity to piggyback off their successes.

Those others need the SEC way more than the SEC needs them



the sets already exist and like I said we aren't grabbing the biggest in the state. If we're going to do it just do it right.

TV sets don't exist if no one is watching. ESPN and CBS will see an increase in revenue if they can be sure their product is being watched in the biggest markets. While the biggest SEC games are being watched in those markets, the networks want the less important games to be watched as well.

And while you are correct about A&M adding another split to the pie. What you fail to acknowledge is that they will also make the pie bigger. Quite a bit bigger, in fact.

 

[knucklehead_vol]

what curve? Seems the last few NC's would say the SEC is well ahead of it.

we're already on national tv every week so who are we really opening to SEC football? If they wanted to watch they would already. Plus it's not like we're adding the best from that state.

It make the piece of the pie smaller for those teams already in the SEC while allowing some disgruntled teams the opportunity to piggyback off their successes.

Those others need the SEC way more than the SEC needs them



the sets already exist and like I said we aren't grabbing the biggest in the state. If we're going to do it just do it right.

Really? The curve is staying ahead of the other conferences. If other conferences weren't trying to out do the SEC I would agree, but to stay ahead of the rest of the conferences this has to happen. And your crazy if you think ATM will not add more viewers to the SEC. Why do you think the current contracts can be renegotiated if the SEC expands, because it becomes worth more if you have more viewers. Also, the number of alum in the Dallas/Houston areas are ridiculous, which would mean more viewers.

Do some research on ATM before you post next time, paw.

 

[bamawriter]

They have the money to upgrades now? Why wouldn't they in the future? Building materials going up? WTF

Again, you're acting like every program is going to go broke if we don't add the Houston/Dallas TV market.

So, I'm going to assume that once you're done paying your bills and your taxes, buying your food, and paying for the fun stuff you do throughout the year, you take all the money you have left over and burn it in your back yard.

 

[utvolpj]

you all seem to really be blowing tamu into this football and money making powerhouse. Sorry but it feels like we're adding another UK just from a bigger state