Texas A&M/SEC megamerge thread extravaganza

#526
#526
NC State would also make a lot of sense from many perspectives.

East Carolina anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Fry? Fry? Ok. Nm.
 
#527
#527
I do not see Arkansas leaving the SEC for Big 12 because the money is so much better here. I live in Big 12 country and the talk is that the Big 12 would contact Notre Dame (failed attempt not surprising) and possibly Minnesota. Also discussed was Houston and Air Force. Kevin Sumlin has been quietly doing a nice job there, but could sail for greener pastures if given the opportunity.

I cannot figure out why they would not pursue Boise State.
 
#529
#529
GahLee said:
Really?

Not happening, no chance.

If you were to get rid of anyone, it would have to be Vandy.
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There's more of a chance of getting rid of Arkansas than there is Vandy, and there's pretty much zero chance of Arkansas going anywhere. Vandy is a charter member. Whether they suck or not has nothing to do with them being in the SEC.
 
#530
#530
give_him 6 said:
I do not see Arkansas leaving the SEC for Big 12 because the money is so much better here. I live in Big 12 country and the talk is that the Big 12 would contact Notre Dame (failed attempt not surprising) and possibly Minnesota. Also discussed was Houston and Air Force. Kevin Sumlin has been quietly doing a nice job there, but could sail for greener pastures if given the opportunity.

I cannot figure out why they would not pursue Boise State.
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Hah, the Minnesota rumor might be funnier than Pitt
 
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#531
TNHopeful505 said:
Well, assuming that Texas A&M would be added to the West, I think you'd have to look for a eastern school to match.

I don't see Maryland being logical...a Northern team added to the SOUTHEASTERN Conference doesn't make much sense.

Therefore, I could see the following being possibles:

1. NC State - We have no school in the state, and UNC shouldn't be touched by a ten foot pole with the shape of their program. NC State is a solid program that holds its own in most sports. Would be a good pipe in. Duke is out, simply because Kentucky probably wouldn't go for it. Having Duke and Kentucky in the same division would be a dream in football, nightmare in basketball. Would almost guarantee we never win the SEC.

2. Virginia Tech - I know it is a little farther north, but I think you still consider it the south. As we've said before, Virginia Tech is a GREAT prospect, because they have a great fan base, good solid programs, and a good location, within the state of Virginia. Would be a good add, and would consistently provide good competition in the East.

3. Georgia Tech - We have two schools in Alabama, so why not have two in Georgia? Georgia Tech consistently performs well in football and basketball, plus, would make the rivalry between GA and GT even more exciting. I feel like they would be a quality add.

4. Clemson - Would add a interesting dynamic to the state of SC. Good program, terrible coach, but a definite threat any year.

5. Florida State. I would have said Miami, but same as UNC. FSU is on the rise, and will be competing for championships in the next few years. Great fan base, great facilities, great location.

I feel like our best move is NC State, if nothing else because every state in the Southeast is covered, except for NC.

Georgia - UGA
Alabama - UA and Auburn
Florida - UF
Miss - Miss. St and Ole Miss
Louisiana - LSU
Tenn - UT and Vandy
Arkansas - Arky
Kentucky - UK
Texas - Texas A&M

I just feel like instead of pulling from one of those states, we should try to expand to either Va. Tech and grab Virginia markets, or NC State and grab NC market. Just my thoughts.
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Try taking off your fan glasses and put on your business glasses. Go thru your list and tell us how each of those teams adds another $ to the bottom line of the SEC. All of what you say means nothing unless you increase the bottom line.
 
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#535
TNHopeful505 said:
1. NC State - We have no school in the state, and UNC shouldn't be touched by a ten foot pole with the shape of their program. NC State is a solid program that holds its own in most sports. Would be a good pipe in. Duke is out, simply because Kentucky probably wouldn't go for it. Having Duke and Kentucky in the same division would be a dream in football, nightmare in basketball. Would almost guarantee we never win the SEC.
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NC State holds its own in most sports?:blink: OK...if you say so...
 
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#536
#536
HSVol said:
If we're talking a 16 team SEC, adding aTm, Mizzou, WVU, and VT would greatly enhance the SEC's legitimacy in basketball, especially Mizzou and WVU.
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those 4 teams have combined for 2 final fours in bball - and 1 of those was in 1959 - and zero natnl titles so i gotta disagree on these schools doing anything for bball

lville has 8 final fours and 2 natnl titles

unc has 18 final fours and 5 natnl titles

just a bit of a different league - in fact these two schools probably have more final fours and natnl titles than the rest of the SEC outside KY combined so these are the only 2 to me that really upgrade bball - if there is no money for bball in the contracts though I guess that doesnt matter much
 
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#538
SCvol333 said:
those 4 teams have combined for 2 final fours in bball - and 1 of those was in 1959 - and zero natnl titles so i gotta disagree on these schools doing anything for bball

lville has 8 final fours and 2 natnl titles

unc has 18 final fours and 5 natnl titles

just a bit of a different league - in fact these two schools probably have more final fours and natnl titles than the rest of the SEC outside KY combined so these are the only 2 to me that really upgrade bball - if there is no money for bball in the contracts though I guess that doesnt matter much
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there really's not much there. Duke's numbers last year weren't even that great
 
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SCvol333 said:
those 4 teams have combined for 2 final fours in bball - and 1 of those was in 1959 - and zero natnl titles so i gotta disagree on these schools doing anything for bball

lville has 8 final fours and 2 natnl titles

unc has 18 final fours and 5 natnl titles

just a bit of a different league - in fact these two schools probably have more final fours and natnl titles than the rest of the SEC outside KY combined so these are the only 2 to me that really upgrade bball - if there is no money for bball in the contracts though I guess that doesnt matter much
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I wasn't clear with my statement. Recent history is to what I was referring, and that matters a lot, especially moving forward. I understand your point, though.

It's been said on a number of occasions that new teams will represent new markets. IMO, that's the big key here.

Brings a new market?

Louisville definitely does not.
Georgia Tech, FSU, Clemson definitely do not.

WVU does.
VT does.
Mizzou does.
Any of the big four schools in NC brings markets, but good luck seperating them from one another. They won't leave each other, IMO, because they've got something very unique and great between the four of them (Duke, UNC, NCState, Wake)
 
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#543
give_him 6 said:
Very true, especially southwest Missouri. However, St. Louis thinks that they are Chicago Jr.

During the Civil War they were a house divided
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kind of. after living there for several years, i can kind of see that idea with the city....but most of it is pretty much a southern state in all but name (I think it's the "gateway to the west" that makes people assume the culture's otherwise)

And yeah they were. There was uncertainty but it appears they tried to secede somewhat into it before the Union placed another governing body in it to keep hold the state (& its large arms cache in St Louis). However they did have a star on the confederate flag
 
#544
#544
Heard that the commissioner of the ACC used to be the AD at UNC? If true, would doubt that the ACC would let UNC leave. Cannot confirm that this is true.
 
#545
#545
HSVol said:
I wasn't clear with my statement. Recent history is to what I was referring, and that matters a lot, especially moving forward. I understand your point, though.

It's been said on a number of occasions that new teams will represent new markets. IMO, that's the big key here.

Brings a new market?

Louisville definitely does not.
Georgia Tech, FSU, Clemson definitely do not.

WVU does.
VT does.
Mizzou does.
Any of the big four schools in NC brings markets, but good luck seperating them from one another. They won't leave each other, IMO, because they've got something very unique and great between the four of them (Duke, UNC, NCState, Wake)
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Yeah your right about the new markets - dont think the WVU mkt would be that great - vatech i guess would get you VA and DC and MO would get you St. Louis so those would be sizable mkts

Oh for the days when the Southeastern Conference was for teams in the Southeastern United states and actually had rivalries and fun of that nature
 
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#547
SCvol333 said:
Yeah your right about the new markets - dont think the WVU mkt would be that great - vatech i guess would get you VA and DC and MO would get you St. Louis so those would be sizable mkts

Oh for the days when the Southeastern Conference was for teams in the Southeastern United states and actually had rivalries and fun of that nature
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WVU is in Pittsburgh's media market.

Hardly the south, but a major market nonetheless.
 
#549
#549
wow they did it

Texas A&M president R. Bowen Loftin sent a letter to Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe on Wednesday morning informing Beebe of Texas A&M's desire to join another conference. If Texas A&M is accepted by the other conference (the SEC), then Texas A&M will officially withdraw from the Big 12. "After much thought and consideration, and pursuant to the action of the (Texas A&M University System) Board of Regents authorizing me to take action related to Texas A&M University's athletic conference alignment, I have determined it is in the best interest of Texas A&M to make application to join another athletic conference," Loftin wrote in the letter.


Read more: Texas A&M informs Big 12 it will leave conference - NCAA Football - SI.com
 
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