Thanks, Coach Fulmer.

[Gramps]

CPF owned alabubba !

So did several other teams... Bama was down during that period. Bama was a given win.. The SEC was Tennessee and Florida then everyone else during that time.
Spurrier owned Fulmer. It seemed to me Fulmer and the entire team was way to uptight Florida week. Fulmer was coaching not to lose instead of coaching to win. Fulmer had no confidence whatsoever against Florida.

 

[Slydell]

Of course not. Decades of fandom might though when debating and discussing organizational changes of the football team and how they have might have affected the program

I am the father time of attendance. Good discussions are based on facts. Most, not all, of what I see in these threads conjecture, rumor and downright lies.

 

[Lexvol]

That weird moment when you don't know if it's the four horsemen or the three amigos.

"We all have our personal own El Quapo...for us it is a big scary guy that wants to kill us"

 

[volfanecs]

So, let's see, you APPROVE of the physical image he portrays as a coach to young recruits. We want our recruits to model themselves after his physique? I'm very familiar with the onset of age and how one's appearance and body isn't what it used to be. By the same token, when your career involves physical fitness and trying to get young athletes to condition themselves into being the best they can be, what message does it send when you profess one thing then you do another? No wonder you're the last fulmerite.

No, I do not approve of taking cheap shots at someone's appearance. You call yourself a fan and at the same time, post garbage like that, about our coach?

 

[Eddie Vol Halen]

He has said several times he isn't looking to coach again. He lost a lot of time with his kids as a HC and doesn't want to be away from them and his grand kids anymore than he has to. I think he will be fine in retirement.

I'm just glad to see he acknowledges he was part of the collapse of the football program. Good on him.

Can we just clarify an erroneous point that has been made throughout this thread?

The football program did not collapse while Phil was the coach. In fact, during the hardest era to win the SEC, Phil had us in the SECCG every three years. We happened to go up against the NC elect in all three of those contests.

2008 was shaping up to be rocky with the Clawfense and Crompton's lack of continuity (and the youth of BJ and Nick). However, if Hambone doesn't fire Phil before the Wyoming game and really set the team adrift that week, we end up being 7 - 6 after the bowl game.

Which is frankly better than we've had since Hambone's ridiculousness.

We were going through a period where our natural recruiting disadvantages were being accentuated by the number of HoF coaches at our rival institutions. Yet Phil always kept us in the hunt and in the mix. And his 2008 class looked to be awesome before Monte Kiffin's son ran it off along with some of the future stars of the team, replacing it with the worst recruiting class in the history of the NCAA.

We were not in collapse. The hiring of Lane Kiffin sent us into collapse that a comedy legend like Derek Dooley was unable to arrest.

 

[hatingbamaisawayoflife]

Wow more Fulmer threads this week than when he got fired. At least Bama has finally somewhat moved on from Bear. Wonder how it will be like in 10 years?
"Butch Jones is the greatest coach in UT history... BUT I don't think Fulmer should've been fired."
"Rumors of CBJ may be getting the ax. So the question is: should Fulmer have been fired?"
The man admitted what some of you wanted to hear, big whoop I try to focus on our new coach than the controversy of a past one.

you have lost your mind...bammers have NOT MOVED ON FROM BEAR

 

[114VOL]

You are the one with the superior intellect. I am sure you can figure out how to drill down to my profile and see the year I was born.

I am pretty certain my claim was spot on. I just wanted to expose your penchant for not answering direct questions posed to you.

 

[114VOL]

I am the father time of attendance. Good discussions are based on facts. Most, not all, of what I see in these threads conjecture, rumor and downright lies.

The frequent embarrassing blowout losses to most of our biggest rivals from 2002-2008 are nothing but fact

 

[114VOL]

Can we just clarify an erroneous point that has been made throughout this thread?

The football program did not collapse while Phil was the coach. In fact, during the hardest era to win the SEC, Phil had us in the SECCG every three years. We happened to go up against the NC elect in all three of those contests.

2008 was shaping up to be rocky with the Clawfense and Crompton's lack of continuity (and the youth of BJ and Nick). However, if Hambone doesn't fire Phil before the Wyoming game and really set the team adrift that week, we end up being 7 - 6 after the bowl game.

Which is frankly better than we've had since Hambone's ridiculousness.

We were going through a period where our natural recruiting disadvantages were being accentuated by the number of HoF coaches at our rival institutions. Yet Phil always kept us in the hunt and in the mix. And his 2008 class looked to be awesome before Monte Kiffin's son ran it off along with some of the future stars of the team, replacing it with the worst recruiting class in the history of the NCAA.

We were not in collapse. The hiring of Lane Kiffin sent us into collapse that a comedy legend like Derek Dooley was unable to arrest.

We were in the ditch and were trending down nationally. We were routinely losing to most of our biggest rivals often in embarrassing fashion. We were no longer feared in Neyland. Look how many times we got blown out from 2002-2008 in Neyland. 2004 was far and away, the best season in that downward trend. I am not going to embarrass myself by sticking my chest out about the 2007 season. We got blown out by Cal, Florida and Bama(who was 6-6 at the end).

You're as delusional about him and what was going on as he was about himself

Just because we haven't done any better since isn't support that we should have kept him. Mediocrity should never be rewarded to a historical top ten program

 

[volfanecs]

We were in the ditch and were trending down nationally. We were routinely losing to most of our biggest rivals often in embarrassing fashion. We were no longer feared in Neyland. Look how many times we got blown out from 2002-2008 in Neyland. 2004 was far and away, the best season in that downward trend. I am not going to embarrass myself by sticking my chest out about the 2007 season. We got blown out by Cal, Florida and Bama(who was 6-6 at the end).

You're as delusional about him and what was going on as he was about himself

Just because we haven't done any better since isn't support that we should have kept him. Mediocrity should never be rewarded to a historical top ten program

CPF is the reason we had the top ten program. Another fact you overlooked?

 

[phantomvol]

now coach remove the curse.....o i forgot we canned dooley

 

[hohenfelsvol]

With a record of 152-52, NC and HOF, any other coach would wonder the same thing.

Forty percent of his 52 losses were racked up in his last four years. That's what killed him. SEC coaching landscape changed and he didn't. There were too many coaches giving him "fits"

 

[hohenfelsvol]

"We all have our personal own El Quapo...for us it is a big scary guy that wants to kill us"

If guy = wife during football season, then yes. I concur

 

[114VOL]

CPF is the reason we had the top ten program. Another fact you overlooked?

We were top ten long before Fulmer became head coach. Sorry. This is the problem with guys like you. Just like him, you believe HE was the program.

I am talking about college football history. Not his tenure. BTW, in his 16 years, we finished in the final top 10 on five occasions. And those were concentrated between 1995-2001. From 2002-2008 we never got within sniffing distance of it

That platter is getting pretty full of your rear end

This isn't being disrespectful to him either. It's stating facts about the PROGRAM

 

[volfanecs]

We were top ten long before Fulmer became head coach. Sorry. This is the problem with guys like you. Just like him, you believe HE was the program.

I am talking about college football history. Not his tenure. BTW, in his 16 years, we finished in the final top 10 on five occasions. And those were concentrated between 1995-2001. From 2002-2008 we never got within sniffing distance of it

That platter is getting pretty full of your rear end

This isn't being disrespectful to him either. It's stating facts about the PROGRAM

The problem with guys like me? The problem with guys like you insisting he was an average coach. Hogwash. That platter is getting pretty full of your rear end? Translation please.

 

[114VOL]

The problem with guys like me? The problem with guys like you insisting he was an average coach. Hogwash. That platter is getting pretty full of your rear end? Translation please.

I've never said he was average. My posts are chock block full of calling him a good coach and great recruiter.

You made the claim we were historical top ten because of him. That was 100% false. We weren't even in the final top ten in half of his seasons.

 

[whobethis16]

The frequent embarrassing blowout losses to most of our biggest rivals from 2002-2008 are nothing but fact

Didn't realize losing by 5 to UGA in 02, beating Florida and Bama in 03, beating Florida, UGA, and Bama in 04, losing by 9 to Florida, 13 to UGA, and 3 to Bama in 05, beating Bama and Georgia in 06, and stomping UGA in 07 is "frequent". I counted 7 blowout losses (17+ points, ie more than 2 possessions) to Bama, Florida, and Georgia (our three biggest rivals) in those years you mentioned. While that's more than I would like, they're rivals, it wasn't nearly as bad as you exaggerate it to be, much like everything you describe the last years of Fulmer.

 

[114VOL]

Didn't realize losing by 5 to UGA in 02, beating Florida and Bama in 03, beating Florida, UGA, and Bama in 04, losing by 9 to Florida, 13 to UGA, and 3 to Bama in 05, beating Bama and Georgia in 06, and stomping UGA in 07 is "frequent". I counted 7 blowout losses (17+ points, ie more than 2 possessions) to Bama, Florida, and Georgia (our three biggest rivals) in those years you mentioned. While that's more than I would like, they're rivals, it wasn't nearly as bad as you exaggerate it to be, much like everything you describe the last years of Fulmer.

2002 blowout losses
Florida at home, Bama at home, Miami at home, Maryland in the bowl game

2003
Georgia at home
2 touchdown loss to UNRANKED Clemson in the bowl game

2004
Auburn at home

2005
We didn't really get blown out by anyone but Notre Dame, but we went 5-6 after a preseason #3 ranking

2006
Losses to Florida and LSU which were both close games, but they were AT HOME. We got blown out at Arkansas and beat by an inferior PSU team in the bowl game

2007
Blowout losses to Cal, Florida and 6-6 Alabama. Yeah we won the SEC east. Nice accomplishment but the red flags were still being flown at full height

2008
5-7

None of events are exaggerations. It's all straightforward facts

Good coach and great recruiter for the first nine years. Not so much 2002 and beyond. It was past time to move on.

 

[volfanecs]

I've never said he was average. My posts are chock block full of calling him a good coach and great recruiter.

You made the claim we were historical top ten because of him. That was 100% false. We weren't even in the final top ten in half of his seasons.

Where do you find the word "historical" in my post?

 

[volfanecs]

Didn't realize losing by 5 to UGA in 02, beating Florida and Bama in 03, beating Florida, UGA, and Bama in 04, losing by 9 to Florida, 13 to UGA, and 3 to Bama in 05, beating Bama and Georgia in 06, and stomping UGA in 07 is "frequent". I counted 7 blowout losses (17+ points, ie more than 2 possessions) to Bama, Florida, and Georgia (our three biggest rivals) in those years you mentioned. While that's more than I would like, they're rivals, it wasn't nearly as bad as you exaggerate it to be, much like everything you describe the last years of Fulmer.

Stay away from facts. It just confuses him.

 

[whobethis16]

The frequent embarrassing blowout losses to most of our biggest rivals from 2002-2008 are nothing but fact

I count 2 in 2002 (Florida 30-13 and Bama 34-14), 1 in 2003 (UGA 41-14), 0 in 2004, 0 in 2005, 0 in 2006, 2 in 2007 (Florida 59-20 and Bama 41-17), and 2 in 2008 (Florida 30-6 and Bama 29-9).

 

[whobethis16]

2002 blowout losses
Florida at home, Bama at home, Miami at home, Maryland in the bowl game

2003
Georgia at home
2 touchdown loss to UNRANKED Clemson in the bowl game

2004
Auburn at home

2005
We didn't really get blown out by anyone but Notre Dame, but we went 5-6 after a preseason #3 ranking

2006
Losses to Florida and LSU which were both close games, but they were AT HOME. We got blown out at Arkansas and beat by an inferior PSU team in the bowl game

2007
Blowout losses to Cal, Florida and 6-6 Alabama. Yeah we won the SEC east. Nice accomplishment but the red flags were still being flown at full height

2008
5-7

None of events are exaggerations. It's all straightforward facts

Good coach and great recruiter for the first nine years. Not so much 2002 and beyond. It was past time to move on.

You said, and I quote, "frequent blowout losses to our biggest rivals." I provided what we did in our "biggest rival" games. Don't start trying to switch it up when you get caught. Yes, I know he lost games he shouldn't have. But your argument is exactly what I disproved, and now you're trying to cover your ass.

 

[hohenfelsvol]

You said, and I quote, "frequent blowout losses to our biggest rivals." I provided what we did in our "biggest rival" games. Don't start trying to switch it up when you get caught. Yes, I know he lost games he shouldn't have. But your argument is exactly what I disproved, and now you're trying to cover your ass.

4 blowouts in 2007&2008 isn't frequent? Just sayin...

 

[whobethis16]

4 blowouts in 2007&2008 isn't frequent? Just sayin...

He said from 2002-08. Yes, I agree that those two years were not good in regards to playing Bama and Florida, but his argument is from his last 7 years, and an average of 1 blowout a year isn't all that bad considering how good UGA was early that decade and how good Bama and Florida was at the end.

 

[hohenfelsvol]

He said from 2002-08. Yes, I agree that those two years were not good in regards to playing Bama and Florida, but his argument is from his last 7 years, and an average of 1 blowout a year isn't all that bad considering how good UGA was early that decade and how good Bama and Florida was at the end.

Agree. Blowouts no, but not a great overall record.