That's racist!

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Grand Vol said:
Because the Republicans are constantly demonized as the party of hate and racism? You know as well as I do the great masses won't look any further than what they see on CNN or investigate malicious gossip.

Why aren't conservative people of color held up to the same examples as Democrats? Is Condi Rice not one of the greatest living examples of how a person can overcome so called racism? How about Mia Rice? Tim Scott? John James running in Michigan? What has Debbie Stabenow done for the minority population in Michigan that deserves her unconditional support from minorities?
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How the perception is framed plays a part. Those you listed are not held up by those communities in the same way that many of the Ds are.
This is just my opinion but the perception to me is those you listed above spend a lot less time talking about race and separation than their D counterparts specifically. And are viewed as elitist because they are not Ds. The Ds like to talk about the negatives holding back the black communities but when it comes down to actual positive movement fall woefully short. Many in those communities have settled for the talk without the actual actions.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I will explain it slowly for you. You have stated a belief that democrats treat blacks like they are small children incapable of caring for themselves. Yet blacks continue to vote democrat. So implicit in your position is the belief that blacks are incapable of making a decision that would actually be beneficial to them. You are attempting to tell me what I think of blacks. All I have been saying is that blacks tend to vote democrat and have a greater representation in the democratic party. You are telling me that they are too stupid to know that it is bad for them to vote democrat.

Again, you are the racist.
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It’s no secret Democrats rely on black peoples votes by pandering to them. That’s how it is. That’s fact.

As soon as a black person states they’re off the dem plantation they’re labeled -by Dems and “The black community”- uncle toms, negroes who don’t read, other terrible things, and are outcasts. Again, fact.

What have Dems done for black people?

What have republicans done to oppress black people?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I don't disagree. However, I wasn't talking about politicians. White Americans, especially white American males, have had a pretty good run. Being white. Being male. If you can add on decent looking. Doors open like crazy in this country. They always have and they still do, but if you listen to the whining on this board you would think that it's a disadvantage. Since they are white males, I can only assume that they are stunningly unattractive. (Settle down it's a joke) But I really don't see how anyone can deny the benefits of being a white male. I don't think that I have ever interviewed for a job I didn't get. I always was able to rent a house or an apartment no matter how bad my credit was. I am not going to return the perks I enjoy, but I am also not going to deny getting them.
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and you got those things specifically because you were white?

I have been: rejected from a job, kicked out of diversity groups, and kicked out of bars because of my skin color. I have never received anything because of my skin color.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Because they would be labeled an "Uncle Tom" by the majority of the people from the group which has similar pigment tones as them. Be black, vote republican, no longer a black person in the eyes of the group.
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So your reason is that black people are too weak to vote republican.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Because the Republicans are constantly demonized as the party of hate and racism? You know as well as I do the great masses won't look any further than what they see on CNN or investigate malicious gossip.

Why aren't conservative people of color held up to the same examples as Democrats? Is Condi Rice not one of the greatest living examples of how a person can overcome so called racism? How about Mia Rice? Tim Scott? John James running in Michigan? What has Debbie Stabenow done for the minority population in Michigan that deserves her unconditional support from minorities?
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Republicans do nothing to rid themselves of that image. Charlottesville is a prime example. Trump should have come out and said there is no room for white supremacists in our society. Instead we got, there is fault on both sides. Republicans jumped to his defense. Minorities distrust the Republicans.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Republicans do nothing to rid themselves of that image. Charlottesville is a prime example. Trump should have come out and said there is no room for white supremacists in our society. Instead we got, there is fault on both sides. Republicans jumped to his defense. Minorities distrust the Republicans.
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Uh huh.

Your use of a singular incident is noted as you've been standing on the singular accomplishments train the past few hours.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
So your reason is that black people are too weak to vote republican.
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I'm saying that so long as people of color tend to hear the same thing over and over and over again, at some point it becomes truth to them.

Good grief, people in this forum spout off that nonsense as well. Yourself included at this point.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Sucks in the winter , the roads are too narrow , too many tolls and overpasses are too low just like all the northeast lol
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I have only visited in the Summer months. I'm pretty sure the Winters suck because they did in Connecticut when I lived there.
 
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Here you go CWV, at what point are headlines accurate? At what point do people actually investigate the content and say "okay, that's not as bad as they made it out to be"?

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ClearwaterVol said:
Republicans do nothing to rid themselves of that image. Charlottesville is a prime example. Trump should have come out and said there is no room for white supremacists in our society. Instead we got, there is fault on both sides. Republicans jumped to his defense. Minorities distrust the Republicans.
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Only because the Republicans are going to put them back in chains. Must be true because Uncle Joe said so.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Uh huh.

Your use of a singular incident is noted as you've been standing on the singular accomplishments train the past few hours.
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I made a statement and then used an example. In the cases where I was deriding your use of singular examples we were discussing overall representation of minorities in the republican party. I said the overall population of minorities in the Republican party was 5% vs. 38% of the American population. You said, "but condi rice." She is a great person and a great representative of the Republican party, but it doesn't change the overall representation. Hence, your trotting out a few names doesn't change the overall argument or offer a defense for it.

Compare that with your position that the Republican party is demonized as the party of hate and racism - which is an opinion. I agreed with your opinion and then offered you a reason why they might be considered such.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I made a statement and then used an example. In the cases where I was deriding your use of singular examples we were discussing overall representation of minorities in the republican party. I said the overall population of minorities in the Republican party was 5% vs. 38% of the American population. You said, "but condi rice." She is a great person and a great representative of the Republican party, but it doesn't change the overall representation. Hence, your trotting out a few names doesn't change the overall argument or offer a defense for it.

Compare that with your position that the Republican party is demonized as the party of hate and racism - which is an opinion. I agreed with your opinion and then offered you a reason why they might be considered such.
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So, again, why is it certain people of color aren't voted in from the Republican side?

John James as my example. He should be trouncing Stabenow at this point. Why is he not? Successful businessman, successful soldier, successful family man. Black. Should be held up as an example in the African American community as to what you can achieve when you press through hardships.

Yet is behind to a woman who has done absolutely zero for the minority crowd. Is it because the Republican Party is demonized?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Here you go CWV, at what point are headlines accurate? At what point do people actually investigate the content and say "okay, that's not as bad as they made it out to be"?

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The media has becoming less about reporting objective news and more about writing “articles” based on what pissed the journalist off that day.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I made a statement and then used an example. In the cases where I was deriding your use of singular examples we were discussing overall representation of minorities in the republican party. I said the overall population of minorities in the Republican party was 5% vs. 38% of the American population. You said, "but condi rice." She is a great person and a great representative of the Republican party, but it doesn't change the overall representation. Hence, your trotting out a few names doesn't change the overall argument or offer a defense for it.

Compare that with your position that the Republican party is demonized as the party of hate and racism - which is an opinion. I agreed with your opinion and then offered you a reason why they might be considered such.
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Is she viewed as a great person and a great representative by the majority of the black community? If not, why?

I think that answer goes a long way in understanding some of this. Its not just a sheer number based on party affiliation.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Thats interesting. Thats a substantial jump in education levels from 64'.

Is home ownership defined by just securing a loan and having a house in your name or does that just pertain to note paid off and house in your name?

The reason I ask, net worth could be chalked up to poorly managing income and assets even tho your income has increased. In other words anyone can increase income but not necessarily increase net worth. I have some friends that I grew up with that are prime examples.

The children out of wedlock and single parent homes seems (haven't researched it) like a product of decisions made before or during the education and career starting process and not necessarily a product of a financial situation. And even could be factored in to a stalled education or career path that prevents even more income increase.
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Bump for CW.

Genuinely curious.
 
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