That's racist!

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bnhunt said:
It happens to minorities to a proportionally larger degree than it does to caucasians.
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Any type of link to this?
volbeast33 said:
If they followed procedure..... I don’t see how they can be..... cops are no different than my job or any other profession.... I can do things that are part of my job that a non-licensed citizen could get in trouble for
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That involves hurting others? I am betting your license stops well short of hurting innocents. Usually once you have training/certification/ license you are held to a higher standard. Not a lower one.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Agreed, but I think the race angle in this story is equally ridiculous. She was black, but that had nothing to do with her being killed by the police. If the police were doing everything by the book and this was the outcome (as it is all the time in similar situations to people of any race) then the book needs to be re-written fast.
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I agree with this. But the OP I responded was arguing about her past choices, not her skin color. Her dating a bad guy doesnt excuse or mediate any of the blame from the cops.

Hers is one of those cases that is open and shut and no pro cop argument should include. Yup they effed up, move on to the next.
 
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LouderVol said:
Any type of link to this?
That involves hurting others? I am betting your license stops well short of hurting innocents. Usually once you have training/certification/ license you are held to a higher standard. Not a lower one.
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Innocence kind of stops when you start resisting arrest. At that point, you're committing a crime and the police are allowed to use reasonable
force. The problem is some police use excessive force, and ultimately make other cops look bad for using any force. Take away the ability of the police to use reasonable force and they are toothless to enforce the law. So yes, technically, police are allowed to hurt others if it's within the realm of reasonable force.
 
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LouderVol said:
You bust into my house unannounced and I have a gun handy I am using it. I dont care what's on your vest.

Breona Taylor needs to get dropped from this argument real fast. There is absolutely no way to spin any type of fault on her or her BF in this situation.
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If her boyfriend went all "hands up don't shoot" they'd be fine right now..probably getting a nice settlement from city and picking out their new duplex and Chrysler 300's.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
If her boyfriend went all "hands up don't shoot" they'd be fine right now..probably getting a nice settlement from city and picking out their new duplex and Chrysler 300's.
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Maybe, but when someone busts into your house unexpectedly, you react. No knock warrants should not be legal. If police knock first and announce, then there's a good chance Breonna Taylor is alive, and the city doesn't need to worry about a lawsuit.
 
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Weezer said:
Maybe, but when someone busts into your house unexpectedly, you react. No knock warrants should not be legal. If police knock first and announce, then there's a good chance Breonna Taylor is alive, and the city doesn't need to worry about a lawsuit.
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100%
 
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Weezer said:
Innocence kind of stops when you start resisting arrest. At that point, you're committing a crime and the police are allowed to use reasonable
force. The problem is some police use excessive force, and ultimately make other cops look bad for using any force. Take away the ability of the police to use reasonable force and they are toothless to enforce the law. So yes, technically, police are allowed to hurt others if it's within the realm of reasonable force.
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Not if you are out there serving no knock warrants on wrong address/people. We've seen a number of cases make it to the federal level where the cops were in the wrong. The stuff out west a little while ago being the biggest. Being a cop and serving a warrant doesnt give you the right to hurt innocents.

Resisting arrest is a larger money maker for the cops than traffic stops. And is used as such.
 
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bnhunt said:
I noticed you didn't explain why B. Taylor deserved to be shot. And your skin color has nothing to do with your interactions with police because you are WHITE.
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I never said anyone “ deserved “ anything , that’s your word . See this is thing that happens when talking using your emotions instead of logic . Skin color does not matter ( period ) your actions do every single time . Take some self responsibility and you won’t have to worry about being a victim all the time . Self responsibility solves all problems .
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Agreed, but I think the race angle in this story is equally ridiculous. She was black, but that had nothing to do with her being killed by the police. If the police were doing everything by the book and this was the outcome (as it is all the time in similar situations to people of any race) then the book needs to be re-written fast.
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If Breonna Taylor had been white, this story wouldn't have near the press coverage, nor would it have sparked the amount of outrage it has. It's sad how our country has sensationalized "racism". We see it around every corner, throw out the term "racist" so casually. It doesn't really matter if it's true. The narrative calls for us to believe it's true, even when it's not. Look at KTK. He sees racism in everything, characterizes the majority of posters on here as racist, and never engages in actual conversation. It's a microcosm of what's going on in this country. It's easy to throw around such a label, even when it's false. And there's no consequence when the accusation is false. Yet someone is always willing to believe, even in the face of evidence that proves otherwise.
 
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LouderVol said:
Not if you are out there serving no knock warrants on wrong address/people. We've seen a number of cases make it to the federal level where the cops were in the wrong. The stuff out west a little while ago being the biggest. Being a cop and serving a warrant doesnt give you the right to hurt innocents.

Resisting arrest is a larger money maker for the cops than traffic stops. And is used as such.
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First, my response wasn't about no knock warrants. Reading further back in the conversation, I've already expressed my opinion that no knock warrants should not be legal. Personally, I think they are a gross violation of the 4A.

Second, I have no idea if resisting arrest is a "money maker" like you claim, but I do know it's illegal. I think there's a high probability George Floyd is alive had he not resisted arrest. I think the police would have been justified in using reasonable force to apprehend him. Derek Chauvin crossed a line and used excessive force that resulted in Floyd's death. And that's not the first case where that sequence of events has played out.
 
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Weezer said:
First, my response wasn't about no knock warrants. Reading further back in the conversation, I've already expressed my opinion that no knock warrants should not be legal. Personally, I think they are a gross violation of the 4A.

Second, I have no idea if resisting arrest is a "money maker" like you claim, but I do know it's illegal. I think there's a high probability George Floyd is alive had he not resisted arrest. I think the police would have been justified in using reasonable force to apprehend him. Derek Chauvin crossed a line and used excessive force that resulted in Floyd's death. And that's not the first case where that sequence of events has played out.
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I should have used a non literal comparison. In this case I should have said go to, not money maker.

You can get resisting arrest for asking why you are being arrested. You can get resisting arrest for trying to make yourself comfortable once in handcuffs. The cops can use resisting arrest as probable cause. They shouldnt have the right to arrest or detain us with nothing and then after the fact use resisting arrest as justification.
 
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LouderVol said:
I should have used a non literal comparison. In this case I should have said go to, not money maker.

You can get resisting arrest for asking why you are being arrested. You can get resisting arrest for trying to make yourself comfortable once in handcuffs. The cops can use resisting arrest as probable cause. They shouldnt have the right to arrest or detain us with nothing and then after the fact use resisting arrest as justification.
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Agreed, but such cases as the Floyd one, they had probable cause and Floyd actively resisted arrest. He didn't deserve to die, and Chauvin absolutely used excessive force and should be charged, but up until the point excessive force was used, the police were in the right.
 
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Pacer92 said:
I’d love to see you go down into the Ktown bricks with a “White Lives Matter” poster and see what the reaction was...

It would be worse...
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What a cornball. lol What are the Ktown "bricks?" lmao.


Also no one would GAF. Someone might laugh at you. That is about it. And yes I would know and you would not seeing as I grew up in a black Knoxville neighborhood and know pretty much everyone in those areas in Knoxville.
 
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k-town_king said:
What a cornball. lol What are the Ktown "bricks?" lmao.


Also no one would GAF. Someone might laugh at you. That is about it. And yes I would know and you would not seeing as I grew up in a black Knoxville neighborhood and know pretty much everyone in those areas in Knoxville.
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They would kick your azz or worse.

Edit: Hell, I'd kick your azz for doing something stupid like that.
 
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k-town_king said:
What a cornball. lol What are the Ktown "bricks?" lmao.


Also no one would GAF. Someone might laugh at you. That is about it. And yes I would know and you would not seeing as I grew up in a black Knoxville neighborhood and know pretty much everyone in those areas in Knoxville.
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I'm assuming he was referring to those old brick dumps on magnolia avenue that they bulldozed a couple of decades ago.
 
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k-town_king said:
What a cornball. lol What are the Ktown "bricks?" lmao.


Also no one would GAF. Someone might laugh at you. That is about it. And yes I would know and you would not seeing as I grew up in a black Knoxville neighborhood and know pretty much everyone in those areas in Knoxville.
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You know what the “bricks” are....don’t play a victim..

If nobody GAF, how about demonstrating how docile and tolerant...in your old neighborhood....so we can see for ourselves?
 
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TNVOLNAVY said:
Looks like the leftists are saying that AAs and Latinos are inferior.

But this month, the California Supreme Court, which oversees the state bar, agreed to lower the passing score for the exam, a victory for law school deans who have long hoped the change would raise the number of Black and Latino people practicing law.

https://www.latimes.com/california/...ronavirus?_amp=true&__twitter_impression=true
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I love passing these on to my wife.

The only people that have ever treated her like a brown object are Democrats.
 
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bnhunt said:
What bad decisions did B. Taylor make? She was at home sleeping in her bed when she had her door kicked in and got shot multiple times because law enforcement was looking for someone who had already been arrested. She was not harming or threatening anyone and was a RN working on the front lines of the pandemic. Her only crime was being black. We're not at risk because we're middle-class white guys. Please tell me what she did to deserve what happened to her. Can't wait for your answer.
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Her only crime was being black? 🙄
If stupidity ever becomes a crime you’ll end up doing life without parole
 
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