That's racist!

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FLVOL_79 said:
Oh several historians said so? Well that must be gospel! Know what else helped win the war? M&M's. They boosted morale and kept the fighting spirit strong because they melted in your mouth and not in your hand! It's true, look it up! But I will concede you're right. Blood transfusions have always been the tip of the spear in our military and always always always the first order of business to sort out during mission planning. :whistling:

Ignorant uneducated coward. Interesting. I bet you got a Medal of Honor right? Bronze Star? Combat V? Basic training medal with silver oak leaf cluster? At least a good conduct medal right?? Regale me with your deeds of military heroism and scholastic achievement..:birgits_giggle: If you served I am going to guess Army and supply clerk, quarter master, or armory guy at the range. Am I close? :popcorn:
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Don't disparage my Army there fella!
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Oh several historians said so? Well that must be gospel! Know what else helped win the war? M&M's. They boosted morale and kept the fighting spirit strong because they melted in your mouth and not in your hand! It's true, look it up! But I will concede you're right. Blood transfusions have always been the tip of the spear in our military and always always always the first order of business to sort out during mission planning. :whistling:

Ignorant uneducated coward. Interesting. I bet you got a Medal of Honor right? Bronze Star? Combat V? Basic training medal with silver oak leaf cluster? At least a good conduct medal right?? Regale me with your deeds of military heroism and scholastic achievement..:birgits_giggle: If you served I am going to guess Army and supply clerk, quarter master, or armory guy at the range. Am I close? :popcorn:
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zip your pants back up.

medical tech has always been a major thing that all military(s) have pushed.
 
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k-town_king said:
There are several historians that have credited the new blood transfusion technology we had access to as being the major factor in several decisive campaigns. We would have lost the war without the superior medical technology. There were other factors of course. That has been credited as one the things that we would have lost WWII without.

If the standards were so high in the AF they wouldn't let such an ignorant, uneducated coward like you in. :rolleyes:
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If you're getting a blood transfusion it's not likely you're going to be combat ready anytime soon, if ever. It's a good invention that undoubtedly saved lives which is good but from a purely objective standpoint if an army has to pick between recuperating casualties that may never fight again or burying the dead it's much more efficient to suffer KIA when you have numerical superiority. Soviets, Koreans, Chinese subscribed to this doctrine for a long time. I think is a stretch to say it won the war for us. Overwhelming manpower and industrial capacity won the war.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
If you're getting a blood transfusion it's not likely you're going to be combat ready anytime soon, if ever. It's a good invention that undoubtedly saved lives which is good but from a purely objective standpoint if an army has to pick between recuperating casualties that may never fight again or burying the dead it's much more efficient to suffer KIA when you have numerical superiority. Soviets, Koreans, Chinese subscribed to this doctrine for a long time. I think is a stretch to say it won the war for us. Overwhelming manpower and industrial capacity won the war.
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what? I have no numbers either way but no way I believe that. and the rest of your argument is dumb too. since when has America ever fought with the stratagem of superior numbers to carry the battle? I am not sure at what point that we made the switch but we have consistently operated under the assumption as the best military, not the biggest, we will win. med tech is a big part of that.

1.9 million total in Europe, something like half of that never saw front line combat. More Germans surrendered to the US than there were US fighters in theatre. 3/4s of Germany's losses came in the last two years to Russia of the war. The US didn't defeat the Germans with numbers.

now the Japanese did get the full load of the big ole American stick.
 
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LouderVol said:
what? I have no numbers either way but no way I believe that. and the rest of your argument is dumb too. since when has America ever fought with the stratagem of superior numbers to carry the battle? I am not sure at what point that we made the switch but we have consistently operated under the assumption as the best military, not the biggest, we will win. med tech is a big part of that.

1.9 million total in Europe, something like half of that never saw front line combat. More Germans surrendered to the US than there were US fighters in theatre. 3/4s of Germany's losses came in the last two years to Russia of the war. The US didn't defeat the Germans with numbers.

now the Japanese did get the full load of the big ole American stick.
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As I said, objectively. Wasn't that the whole point of Bouncing Betty's and the 5.56 round? KIA is much less of a drain on manpower that a casualty. The eastern front was a war of attrition, Russia was content to incur massive losses because they could absorb them and Germany couldn't. Combat medicine was an afterthought to Russia, they didn't really care if their soldiers lived or died.
 
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LouderVol said:
what? I have no numbers either way but no way I believe that. and the rest of your argument is dumb too. since when has America ever fought with the stratagem of superior numbers to carry the battle? I am not sure at what point that we made the switch but we have consistently operated under the assumption as the best military, not the biggest, we will win. med tech is a big part of that.

1.9 million total in Europe, something like half of that never saw front line combat. More Germans surrendered to the US than there were US fighters in theatre. 3/4s of Germany's losses came in the last two years to Russia of the war. The US didn't defeat the Germans with numbers.

now the Japanese did get the full load of the big ole American stick.
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WW2.

Med tech didn't really hit its stride until Iraqi Freedom I'd say. I remember in pre-deployment med training the medic saying that if WW2 to Vietnam era had what they had today they would have reduced casualties by 50%+.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
WW2.

Med tech didn't really hit its stride until Iraqi Freedom I'd say. I remember in pre-deployment med training the medic saying that if WW2 to Vietnam era had what they had today they would have reduced casualties by 50%+.
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and if they had the tech in WWI that they had in WWII that's another 50%, and so on and so forth.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
WW2.

Med tech didn't really hit its stride until Iraqi Freedom I'd say. I remember in pre-deployment med training the medic saying that if WW2 to Vietnam era had what they had today they would have reduced casualties by 50%+.
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Are you forgetting the leaps and bounds made by medical units during the Korean War? MASH wasn't just a TV show.

Individual medical training saw a major uptick in OEF/OIF, but by and large, every conflict we've been in the death rate goes down each time due to medical advancements and early critical care.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Are you forgetting the leaps and bounds made by medical units during the Korean War? MASH wasn't just a TV show.

Individual medical training saw a major uptick in OEF/OIF, but by and large, every conflict we've been in the death rate goes down each time due to medical advancements and early critical care.
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No.

Like I said the medic doing our training was saying that the wounds, IE surviving IED blasts, that guys where getting (burns, amputations) would have never been survivable 30+ years before.


But back on topic WW2 wasn't won because some dude improved upon blood transfusion technology that already existed so we could keep sending wounded people back into battle. Soviet Winter and nukes. And don't confuse facts with me denigrating that guys accomplishments or medical advancements. An amputee can go back into combat today...doubt that happened much before 1980..


But hey, its Memorial day. Good on that doctor for saving lives. Now raise a glass to the 1.4 million who never made it home and the 40,000 MIA.
 
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Perhaps people are using common sense after all.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/3...more-book-festival-after-public-backlash.html

Organizers for the Baltimore Book Festival announced Tuesday they disinvited Rachel Dolezal, the controversial white woman who represented herself as African American for years, to this year's event after receiving major public backlash.

Festival organizers released a statement on its Facebook page, citing reaction from attendees and authors as the reason for rescinding Dolezal's invitation.

"A top priority of the Baltimore Office of Promotion & The Arts is to listen to our constituents, and after hearing from a cross-section of opinions on having Rachel Dolezal participate in this year’s festival, we had to consider how her appearance may affect both the audience and the other extraordinary authors we have planned for the Baltimore Book Festival," the statement read.
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Though the last part of the article made me lol

Dolezal revealed to The Guardian in February that she has been rejected for 100 jobs, only receiving offers to do reality TV and pornography films. Her autobiography was turned down by 30 publishers before someone accepted it.
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I'm just really curious who wants to see her in porn. She's not that pretty...
 
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[twitter]https://twitter.com/campusreform/status/869973770123005953[/twitter]


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sigh...
 
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