The 2012 PGA Championship

#51
#51
GAVol said:
I'd bet that almost everybody's scoring average goes up at the majors as the tournament goes on. Its kind of funny how Tiger keeps top 10ing in majors and somehow he's not playing well.
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Thanks for making my point
 
#55
#55
MSUDuo said:
If Tiger does not win today, I'll go on record and say he's done...

Through 3 Majors and 3 rounds of the 4th, his scoring averages for each round increase from the 1st round to the 4th (69.25, 70.75, 72.75, 73.33) :eek:

Something is clearly in his head as he tries to finish out tournaments.

He has said all year that he's back healthy 100% and that he is trusting his swing. Well, if that is all true and these are the results, that's not going to get it done.

Now, he may win a couple more but he's going to pass Jack with these results. The intimidation factor is no longer there obviously and if it's not, the rest of the world is now good enough to beat him every week.
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I doubt he pulls one out today, but I'll bet you anything, he wins another Major, and probably 2 in the next 2 years
 
#56
#56
MSUDuo said:
Good run indeed. Maybe he can pull a Jack and sneak one in on the other side of 40
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I was being a little sarcastic. I would bet he wins a few more. He's won 3 times this year & played decent in all the majors. I don't think he grinds like he use to & if it's not a major he just doesn't care when it's not going good.
 
#58
#58
vol_in_il said:
did I hear that correctly that Faldo went to ETSU
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No, you somehow managed to totally blow that one. JP Fitzgerald, who is Rory's caddie played for ETSU. Faldo went to Houston for a very limited time. I never knew though that Rory was almost a Buc.
 
#60
#60
That was impressive. Most impressive. Rory's A-game is simply better than everyone else's A-game right now, including Tiger.
 
#61
#61
Chocked again this time on saturday, dont have to say who. He needs to get back after it.:run::toast:
 
#62
#62
DowntownVol said:
That was impressive. Most impressive. Rory's A-game is simply better than everyone else's A-game right now, including Tiger.
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Tiger wasn't on his A game & hasn't been in awhile. Rory found a groove & played very well. Pretty impressive. Only a few weeks ago or maybe months he wasn't on his A game or anything close though. Golf is a fickle sport. One day you have then the next you don't. It's not an exact science. It takes a lot of skill along with some luck & good breaks to win at their level. I guess over 100 tour pros are washed up every week.
 
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#63
#63
govols/cc said:
Tiger wasn't on his A game & hasn't been in awhile. Rory found a groove & played very well. Pretty impressive. Only a few weeks ago or maybe months he wasn't on his A game or anything close though. Golf is a fickle sport. One day you have then the next you don't. It's not an exact science. It takes a lot of skill along with some luck & good breaks to win at their level. I guess over 100 your pros are washed up every week.
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Right. You're making my point for me. Nobody has their A-game every week. Tiger dominated golf for years because (a) his brought his A-game more often than anyone else, and (b) he is/was good enough to win with his B or even C-game. Rory hasn't shown the week-to-week consistency yet. I'm willing to give him a pass because he's 23 freaking years old.

What I'm saying is that I would take Rory at his best over anyone else at their best right now, including Tiger. He's now destroyed top-flight fields twice in majors in the last two years. That's impressive.
 
#64
#64
DowntownVol said:
Right. You're making my point for me. Nobody has their A-game every week. Tiger dominated golf for years because (a) his brought his A-game more often than anyone else, and (b) he is/was good enough to win with his B or even C-game. Rory hasn't shown the week-to-week consistency yet. I'm willing to give him a pass because he's 23 freaking years old.

What I'm saying is that I would take Rory at his best over anyone else at their best right now, including Tiger. He's now destroyed top-flight fields twice in majors in the last two years. That's impressive.
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If tiger is at his best, there isn't anyone going to beat him, including Rory.
 
#65
#65
BigPapaVol said:
If tiger is at his best, there isn't anyone going to beat him, including Rory.
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If "Tiger at his best" is defined as the 2000 version of Tiger, then yeah, I agree, nobody's beating THAT version of Tiger, including Bobby Jones, Jack Nicklaus, and Ben Hogan in their primes. I just don't think Tiger 2012 has that level of play in him for 72 holes. Maybe he proves me wrong. I hope he does. I still think he'll win another major or two. I'm just not convinced that he can scale those kinds of heights for a whole week anymore.
 
#66
#66
DowntownVol said:
If "Tiger at his best" is defined as the 2000 version of Tiger, then yeah, I agree, nobody's beating THAT version of Tiger, including Bobby Jones, Jack Nicklaus, and Ben Hogan in their primes. I just don't think Tiger 2012 has that level of play in him for 72 holes. Maybe he proves me wrong. I hope he does. I still think he'll win another major or two. I'm just not convinced that he can scale those kinds of heights for a whole week anymore.
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I'd agree if he was finishing tied for 35th. But he's contending in every major even when he looks like he's swinging like road kill. I think he's still got another good run in him.
 
#67
#67
GAVol said:
I'd agree if he was finishing tied for 35th. But he's contending in every major even when he looks like he's swinging like road kill. I think he's still got another good run in him.
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My only issue is that you've been saying that for a long long time now. Starting to think it's never fully going to come together again.
 
#68
#68
volfanbill said:
My only issue is that you've been saying that for a long long time now. Starting to think it's never fully going to come together again.
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I know i keep saying it, but it's happened in all 4 majors. I've never seen anybody play ugly the way Tiger can. Hanging around the leader board is half the battle in majors.
 
#69
#69
GAVol said:
I know i keep saying it, but it's happened in all 4 majors. I've never seen anybody play ugly the way Tiger can. Hanging around the leader board is half the battle in majors.
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yes it is, but staying composed on the weekend is the other half. Tiger's not doing that.
 
#72
#72
Vijay Singh didn't really get going until he was Tiger's age. Same for Ben Hogan.
 
#74
#74
GAVol said:
Vijay Singh didn't really get going until he was Tiger's age. Same for Ben Hogan.
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Vijay has one major win post 40. Ben Hogan had three, the most of anyone I know of past 40. Even then, that's only 1/3 of his majors. Jack had two at 40 and of course, "The One" after 40. Arnie had one. Snead had two. Hagen didn't have any, but he didn't really play in any at that age either iirc. None for Lord Byron and Gary Player had one. I'm not saying it's impossible, but facts are facts. Major Championships after you're 40 years old are incredibly rare in the PGA. govols says several won most their stuff in their 40s. I want to know who I'm not thinking of.
 
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