The All things Lane Kiffin Car Accident Thread (merged)

[vol_in_ar]

I can't believe no one is commenting on Tenacious D being called out for posing as a USC fan, just to start an argument with himself...

welcome to VN

 

[tshadow]

This is by far the largest thread. I`m hoping our team gets to voice my opinion to lame kitten on the field where the talk is for real. I`m over it. I`m much more interested on those who want to be here. I sure hope they find themselves here where they belong.

 

[lanekrules]

I can't believe no one is commenting on Tenacious D being called out for posing as a USC fan, just to start an argument with himself...

now this may be the funniest statement I have seen, trust me, I wouldn't want to be anything like him, I'm not for the lynch mob attitude around here. I said cue TD because I figured he would come in spewing his big words and little mind as he always does, and some of you idiots want to make him AD! LOL

TN fans need to move on, no real facts are coming out, as much as you wish they would, just enjoy your new coach and feel better that he has moved on, funny how you loved Coach Kiffin when he was here, now you are just bitter jilted fans, pathetic

 

[Hamilton01]

now this may be the funniest statement I have seen, trust me, I wouldn't want to be anything like him, I'm not for the lynch mob attitude around here. I said cue TD because I figured he would come in spewing his big words and little mind as he always does, and some of you idiots want to make him AD! LOL

TN fans need to move on, no real facts are coming out, as much as you wish they would, just enjoy your new coach and feel better that he has moved on, funny how you loved Coach Kiffin when he was here, now you are just bitter jilted fans, pathetic

Give up the act, Tenacious D. A mod called you out. And "you people" wouldn't include me anyway; I'm a Bama fan.

 

[Tenacious D]

welcome to VN

I don't know who accused me of that, but more importantly, I don't recall arguing with any particular person....USC fan or otherwise.

Secondly, you can be sure that there is no shortage of willing participants to argue with in an issue as contentious as this has, and will continue, to be.

Lastly, in being a male who has never made out with a dude, I don't think I have the experiences necessary to convince anyone that I am a USC fan.

If you'd like to put the issue to final rest, please make it known as to which of the one of the USC fans I am suspected of puppeteering. Once known, any Mod would be most welcome to verify if that user is associated with my IP address, and make their findings known.

I'm more curious that someone with such a new membership would say something such as this.......it's almost as if....

 

[nitrox]

funny how you loved Coach Kiffin when he was here, now you are just bitter jilted fans, pathetic

Many who were not Kiffin fans stayed away from the message boards. Don't project the attitude of a few thousand posters onto the rest of us. Pathetic and presumptive.

 

[Hamilton01]

I don't know who accused me of that, but more importantly, I don't recall arguing with any particular person....USC fan or otherwise.

Secondly, you can be sure that there is no shortage of willing participants to argue with in an issue as contentious as this has, and will continue, to be.

Lastly, in being a male who has never made out with a dude, I don't think I have the experiences necessary to convince anyone that I am a USC fan.

If you'd like to put the issue to final rest, please make it known as to which of the one of the USC fans I am suspected of puppeteering. Once known, any Mod would be most welcome to verify if that user is associated with my IP address, and make their findings known.

I'm more curious that someone with such a new membership would say something such as this.......it's almost as if....

GAvol already said that you had two user names, in response to the statement by "lanekrules" that you were long-winded. You can do your own research by actually reading the thread (or, more likely, by not conveniently overlooking the fact that you were exposed by a mod). I assumed GAvol was stating that you and lanekrules are one and the same. Either way, you do have two user names, and that is poor form.

BTW, I didn't join to bash you; I joined days ago just so I could look at what people have posted before. I'm a Bama fan and have not been following the Tennessee saga (or this message board) until Lane Kiffin left, so it's difficult to put peoples' posts into context without reading their previous posts to get an idea of perspective. I just found it interesting that you were outed as having two user names and no one commented on it.

 

[Tenacious D]

GAvol already said that you had two user names, in response to the statement by "lanekrules" that you were long-winded. You can do your own research by actually reading the thread (or, more likely, by not conveniently overlooking the fact that you were exposed by a mod). I assumed GAvol was stating that you and lanekrules are one and the same. Either way, you do have two user names, and that is poor form.

BTW, I didn't join to bash you; I joined days ago just so I could look at what people have posted before. I'm a Bama fan and have not been following the Tennessee saga (or this message board) until Lane Kiffin left, so it's difficult to put peoples' posts into context without reading their previous posts to get an idea of perspective. I just found it interesting that you were outed as having two user names and no one commented on it.

I have no reason to doubt what you're saying, and to be honest, until I say quote you in the course of welcoming you, I hadn't seen it.

I've PM'd both GAVOL and Freak (the Admin for VN) to ask for their help in clearing this up, and have no doubt that they will.

 

[pualsline]

I heard that Layla recently had an interview. She said "I felt like UT had been trying to fire Lane for a while. So we were wanting to leave before that happened. Every time I walked outside the curb said FIRE LANE."

 

[UTHorsey]

I heard that Layla recently had an interview. She said "I felt like UT had been trying to fire Lane for a while. So we were wanting to leave before that happened. Every time I walked outside the curd said FIRE LANE."

Did the whey have anything to say?

 

[T-TownVol]

I heard that Layla recently had an interview. She said "I felt like UT had been trying to fire Lane for a while. So we were wanting to leave before that happened. Every time I walked outside the curd said FIRE LANE."

well played......lets see if more people get it

 

[davethevol]

Did the whey have anything to say?

Little Miss Muffet was too busy eating them to be able to gauge their response.

 

[swordfish_vol]

I heard that Layla recently had an interview. She said "I felt like UT had been trying to fire Lane for a while. So we were wanting to leave before that happened. Every time I walked outside the curb said FIRE LANE."

She did come across as a ditz, didn't she?

 

[that'swhatshesaid]

He wrecked 3 cars turned one in with over 30,000 damage Lexus he deserved a YUGO

he doesn't deserve anything.
please do not befoul the blessed yugo.

 

[Tenacious D]

I've heard the cacophony of protests to simply let this die, both from some who are amongst us, and other outsiders speaking into the situation.

I sincerely empathize with those who feel that this serves as little more than a perpetual reminder of a tumultuous and painful parting, and regret that it may somehow serve to exacerbate an already difficult situation, in any way. I really do. More importantly, I apologize if such has served to cause our University, our program, or our fanbase to be shown in any negative light, whatsoever, as this was not my, nor do I think it anyone's, intention to do so.

Unfortunately, such seems both necessary and unavoidable. But such is neither because we are "jilted lovers" who are bloodthirsty for revenge, nor "ignorant hillbillies" who's anger makes us willing to scorch the earth and all within it, but because the truth deserves to be told - whatever it is, wherever it leads, whomever it involves, or whatever may result from its being brought to light. It is only then that we will know what, if anything, may have actually occurred.

If these scandals are proven to be true, all involved should be required to assume their responsibility for having committed or attempting to cover them up. If they are disproven, all involved deserve their rightful exoneration.

And so, despite the urgings of Jim Rome, the local or national media, USC fans, or even those disinterested amongst us, we’ll continue until the truth is known, or until every single aspect and lead has been found to be unproven, impossible, or otherwise leaves nothing more than a final, though possibly inconclusive, end. To do otherwise is to allow the lingering possibility that these things could have occurred, or that powerful interests from within and/or outside of our program could have attempted to prevent their disclosure, should be unconscionable to anyone who truly loves this program, and wishes it well.

Far from causing harm, the persistent questioning of the events surrounding X’s August automobile accident has directly resulted in the release of more facts than had been reported at any time since the accident occurred. The difficulty which we now face is that these facts seem to introduce more questions than they answer. For example:

· Why did Lexus of Knoxville’s press release – by definition, a document meant to provide information – glaringly fail to provide even the most basic facts surrounding the incident, and which would be clearly within their ability to provide? Why is there no mention of the date of the accident? Which, “proper authority” was contacted to report it, and by whom? What was damaged on the car, and what was the estimated cost of its repair? Was it X’s personal automobile policy which covered the damages, or was it the University’s?
· If the UTAD did perform an, “inquiry” into the matter when it happened, as Tiffany Carpenter stated in today’s paper, what did that entail? Were other coaches interviewed? If so, which coach vouched for his being seen in the practice facility at midnight, as was reported in the ESPN article? Were any of the neighbors interviewed? Did they attempt to interview any other passenger in the car? If a final report exists, who was it presented, and who made the final decision not to proceed to a formal, “investigation”? It’s curious how the incident was so easily dismissed, and yet now, proves so difficult to explain.
· For the previous week, several media outlets have commented that neither the Knoxville Police Department nor the Knox County Sheriff’s Office had any record of any report being filed in relation to this incident. How then did a report finally surface yesterday? Why does the report not indicate the date and time that the report was either completed or filed, and by whom (it only says that the report was approved by “Tom Spangler“ – but makes no mention as to who the actual reporting officer was, if different)? Why would some information be purposefully blackened out on the report, considering its public record? Is it possible to drive a car through a fence without a dime’s worth of damage to either of them – according to this report it is. Was the car even on scene when the report was made? Was the officer who completed the report?
· We assume that the woman who reported the incident first noticed the car at 8:45am, presumably, after having awoken that morning. Couldn’t the accident have actually occurred at that time, and not earlier?
· If a car crashed through your fence in the, “early morning” hours, do you think that you would hear it? Would any of your neighbors? What if the accident occurred even from a distance of a few hundred yards – do you still think you’d hear it?
· It’s understandable that X wouldn’t have contacted the neighbor in the middle of the night when the accident is alleged to have occurred, that is if you believe that rapping on their door would have proved more disturbing that crashing through their fence. He was apparently equally conscientious of not disturbing the police, too, so at least he was acting in a consistent manner.
· Has it been established that Layla was at home at the time of the accident – because doing so would certainly corroborate Tiffany Carpenter’s earlier comments that he was on his way home to see his family. If not, why?

And these are just some of the questions surrounding his August accident.

If even a small portion of the ever-growing list of accusations are proven to be true, then it becomes obvious that those who are officially or informally entrusted with the care of our program, at best, did nothing towards its correction, and at worse, willfully attempted to hide or subdue them for the protection of their own interests, and at the betrayal of everything and everyone else.

If that’s the case, then our program is in far greater peril than we may realize, and its damaging effects could not only be far worse than anything which might befall us in losing a coach, or in appearing overzealous to some, but perpetually so.

 

[GAVol]

IF Kiffin filed a claim, alleging he wrecked his vehicle as a result of falling asleep at the wheel, left the scene, and then accepted the damages as he reported them, how is that not insurance fraud if something more happened? And howdoes the guy still have insurance, with this many "Known" wrecks?????
Insurance fraud is serious business...

I get what you're saying, but whether he fell asleep at the wheel or was DUI doesn't really matter. Either way the insurance is going to pay out for property damage and any liability. There's no clause in an insurance contract that excludes coverage for being stupid. I guess they could get him for filing a false claim, but there's really no way to prove that he did.

 

[swordfish_vol]

I get what you're saying, but whether he fell asleep at the wheel or was DUI doesn't really matter. Either way the insurance is going to pay out for property damage and any liability. There's no clause in an insurance contract that excludes coverage for being stupid. I guess they could get him for filing a false claim, but there's really no way to prove that he did.

What kind of a D-A walks away from the scene of an accident anyway? A one-mile walk at that. Why didn't he call the police or alert the property owners? Oh, I think I know...

 

[OrangeDog]

I've heard the cacophony of protests to simply let this die, both from some who are amongst us, and other outsiders speaking into the situation.

I sincerely empathize with those who feel that this serves as little more than a perpetual reminder of a tumultuous and painful parting, and regret that it may somehow serve to exacerbate an already difficult situation, in any way. I really do. More importantly, I apologize if such has served to cause our University, our program, or our fanbase to be shown in any negative light, whatsoever, as this was not my, nor do I think it anyone's, intention to do so.

Unfortunately, such seems both necessary and unavoidable. But such is neither because we are "jilted lovers" who are bloodthirsty for revenge, nor "ignorant hillbillies" who's anger makes us willing to scorch the earth and all within it, but because the truth deserves to be told - whatever it is, wherever it leads, whomever it involves, or whatever may result from its being brought to light. It is only then that we will know what, if anything, may have actually occurred.

If these scandals are proven to be true, all involved should be required to assume their responsibility for having committed or attempting to cover them up. If they are disproven, all involved deserve their rightful exoneration.

And so, despite the urgings of Jim Rome, the local or national media, USC fans, or even those disinterested amongst us, we’ll continue until the truth is known, or until every single aspect and lead has been found to be unproven, impossible, or otherwise leaves nothing more than a final, though possibly inconclusive, end. To do otherwise is to allow the lingering possibility that these things could have occurred, or that powerful interests from within and/or outside of our program could have attempted to prevent their disclosure, should be unconscionable to anyone who truly loves this program, and wishes it well.

Far from causing harm, the persistent questioning of the events surrounding X’s August automobile accident has directly resulted in the release of more facts than had been reported at any time since the accident occurred. The difficulty which we now face is that these facts seem to introduce more questions than they answer. For example:

· Why did Lexus of Knoxville’s press release – by definition, a document meant to provide information – glaringly fail to provide even the most basic facts surrounding the incident, and which would be clearly within their ability to provide? Why is there no mention of the date of the accident? Which, “proper authority” was contacted to report it, and by whom? What was damaged on the car, and what was the estimated cost of its repair? Was it X’s personal automobile policy which covered the damages, or was it the University’s?
· If the UTAD did perform an, “inquiry” into the matter when it happened, as Tiffany Carpenter stated in today’s paper, what did that entail? Were other coaches interviewed? If so, which coach vouched for his being seen in the practice facility at midnight, as was reported in the ESPN article? Were any of the neighbors interviewed? Did they attempt to interview any other passenger in the car? If a final report exists, who was it presented, and who made the final decision not to proceed to a formal, “investigation”? It’s curious how the incident was so easily dismissed, and yet now, proves so difficult to explain.
· For the previous week, several media outlets have commented that neither the Knoxville Police Department nor the Knox County Sheriff’s Office had any record of any report being filed in relation to this incident. How then did a report finally surface yesterday? Why does the report not indicate the date and time that the report was either completed or filed, and by whom (it only says that the report was approved by “Tom Spangler“ – but makes no mention as to who the actual reporting officer was, if different)? Why would some information be purposefully blackened out on the report, considering its public record? Is it possible to drive a car through a fence without a dime’s worth of damage to either of them – according to this report it is. Was the car even on scene when the report was made? Was the officer who completed the report?
· We assume that the woman who reported the incident first noticed the car at 8:45am, presumably, after having awoken that morning. Couldn’t the accident have actually occurred at that time, and not earlier?
· If a car crashed through your fence in the, “early morning” hours, do you think that you would hear it? Would any of your neighbors? What if the accident occurred even from a distance of a few hundred yards – do you still think you’d hear it?
· It’s understandable that X wouldn’t have contacted the neighbor in the middle of the night when the accident is alleged to have occurred, that is if you believe that rapping on their door would have proved more disturbing that crashing through their fence. He was apparently equally conscientious of not disturbing the police, too, so at least he was acting in a consistent manner.
· Has it been established that Layla was at home at the time of the accident – because doing so would certainly corroborate Tiffany Carpenter’s earlier comments that he was on his way home to see his family. If not, why?

And these are just some of the questions surrounding his August accident.

If even a small portion of the ever-growing list of accusations are proven to be true, then it becomes obvious that those who are officially or informally entrusted with the care of our program, at best, did nothing towards its correction, and at worse, willfully attempted to hide or subdue them for the protection of their own interests, and at the betrayal of everything and everyone else.

If that’s the case, then our program is in far greater peril than we may realize, and its damaging effects could not only be far worse than anything which might befall us in losing a coach, or in appearing overzealous to some, but perpetually so.

could you repeat that please?

 

[knoxvillevolntr]

Tenacious, great questions, all of which need answering... Time will tell

 

[Gator H8R]

I heard that Layla recently had an interview. She said "I felt like UT had been trying to fire Lane for a while. So we were wanting to leave before that happened. Every time I walked outside the curb said FIRE LANE."

LMAO!!!! Thats the funniest thing ive heard all day :lolabove: lol: :clapping:

 

[IPorange]

Priceless, pualsline.

 

[davethevol]

]For the previous week, several media outlets have commented that neither the Knoxville Police Department nor the Knox County Sheriff’s Office had any record of any report being filed in relation to this incident. How then did a report finally surface yesterday?

KPD shouldn't know anything about it, as that area is out of their jurisdiction. Either the Knoxville Sheriff's Department, TN Highway patrol, or the UTPD would have been the ones that "investigated" the accident. I'm sure there was a non-disclosure agreement signed by the lady who had her fence run into in exchange for a nice amount of money.

 

[MikeHamiltonFan]

At least no women drowned during his DUI

 

[hmhawk]

At least no women drowned during his DUI

:good!:

 

[knoxvillevolntr]

Sumrgurl, I'm gonna ask u a question. So, although you believe Lame does not "rise to the level of Tiger Woods".... is there another woman or more than one he's been romantically involved with while here??? Or Men?? One word. Yes or no, as you know it to be the case right now.
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