The Arab Revolts

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Your opinions? First Tunisia and now Egypt, what are your opinions? Is it just two random occurrences or a part of a larger revolution movement among the Middle-East? On one had I see the benefit of keeping the Hosni Mubarak regime in power but I also admire the Egyptians finally wanting a true democratic system, just can't support the Muslim Brotherhood using this as an excuse to fly into power.
 
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I'm all for it as long as they don't become a theocracy. I heard Syria has shut off the internet now. That's one country that needs to revolt.

The United States MUST stay out of the conflicts at all cost.

Wikileaks dropped a load of cables from Egypt today. I haven't read any of them yet.
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Yemen, Algeria and Jordan have also revolted. Keep in mind that Iran revolted about a year and a half ago and that, in my opinion, set the precedent.
 
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VOLatile said:
I'm all for it as long as they don't become a theocracy. I heard Syria has shut off the internet now. That's one country that needs to revolt.

The United States MUST stay out of the conflicts at all cost.

Wikileaks dropped a load of cables from Egypt today. I haven't read any of them yet.
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Absolutely.
 
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Syria seems like a prime target as well. Anyone else drawing parallels between the Islamic Revolution and the Egyptian revolts? Quick question are you implying that rioting has started in the countries you mentioned? I've heard about Yemen though about calling for the government's step down.
 
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Haven't heard much from Yemen since I first heard of the protesting.

utvolpj said:
I believe the same is happening in Egypt too
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Yeah. It is a blatant attempt to crush the organization of the protesters.
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lawgator1 said:
All because of the interwebs.
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Funny how the Information Age has enabled some people to learn about the world around them and dispel ignorance... while others have used it to further propel their own backwards beliefs.
 
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in before joevol or gsvol analogizes to U.S. and says revolution not that far off here because Obama's black and they can't stand it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
in before joevol or gsvol analogizes to U.S. and says revolution not that far off here because Obama's black and they can't stand it.
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No no no... you got it all wrong.

Obama is going to oust himself and install a theocratic Islamic regime. It's all part of his plan.
 
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DC Vol said:
No no no... you got it all wrong.

Obama is going to oust himself and install a theocratic Islamic Communistic Leftist Marxist KGB Chilean Black Power Baby Killing Social Spending regime. It's all part of his plan.
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I don't have a good feeling about what the end results of these disturbances will be, should those in power be ousted. It might well be for the good, but it seems that the region is more stable with the current "strongmen" in charge than opening the doors for all comers.

It would be a nasty thing to have the wrong people in control of the Suez Canal.
 
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Mubarak gave a brief speech basically saying he is staying the course, he asked the current government to resign and will appoint a new one on Saturday.
 
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JTrainDavis said:
I don't have a good feeling about what the end results of these disturbances will be, should those in power be ousted. It might well be for the good, but it seems that the region is more stable with the current "strongmen" in charge than opening the doors for all comers.

It would be a nasty thing to have the wrong people in control of the Suez Canal.
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You beat me to it. I don't think there is a high probability of a rosy outcome for US interests.
 
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I hope we stay out of this as much as possible.

AS long as it does not impact our country directly I think we need to let it play out.

If it begins to effect us then we step in.
 
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egypt at one end and yemen at the other end of the canal .. not good ..



looks like the US has been working behind the scenes to stoke the fire ..

Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising - Telegraph
The American Embassy in Cairo helped a young dissident attend a US-sponsored summit for activists in New York, while working to keep his identity secret from Egyptian state police.
On his return to Cairo in December 2008, the activist told US diplomats that an alliance of opposition groups had drawn up a plan to overthrow President Hosni Mubarak and install a democratic government in 2011.
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Mubarak is still in the country but the rest of his family has gone to England, I'm told.


Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising - Telegraph

The American Embassy in Cairo helped a young dissident attend a US-sponsored summit for activists in New York, while working to keep his identity secret from Egyptian state police.

On his return to Cairo in December 2008, the activist told US diplomats that an alliance of opposition groups had drawn up a plan to overthrow President Hosni Mubarak and install a democratic government in 2011.
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Iranian Leaders: Unrest In Arab Countries Inspired By Iran, Heralds Coming Of Mahdi


Ahmadinejad's spiritual mentor, Ayatollah Tazi Mesbah Yazdi, said that the Tunisian uprising and Egyptian unrest drew their inspiration from Iran's Islamic Revolution, and that Iran's importance and centrality was clear to all – to the point where the greatest powers on earth need it to get rid of any international problem.

Senior Iranian ayatollah Nouri Hanedani said that the Tunisian uprising heralded the emergence of the Mahdi (the Shi'ite Messiah) and that the popular uprisings in Egypt, Jordan, and other countries attested to the wisdom of these peoples against the arrogant ones (i.e. the U.S. and the West).

The Iranian website Fararu assessed that Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, like the deposed Tunisian leader, would not manage to rein in the popular protests due to their sheer intensity.
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JTrainDavis said:
I don't have a good feeling about what the end results of these disturbances will be, should those in power be ousted. It might well be for the good, but it seems that the region is more stable with the current "strongmen" in charge than opening the doors for all comers.

It would be a nasty thing to have the wrong people in control of the Suez Canal.
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Agreed. I am all for people wanting freedom. However, the revolts will not be good for the US if theocratic powers swoop in and assume control under the guise of freedom. Call me negative, but I'm not quite sure how to take these events. Could be positive OTOH could be monumentally terrible.
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