The Arab Revolts

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#77
#77
bam15 said:
ElBaradei just tried to say The Muslim Brotherhood is not dangerous. A minority that wishes democracy upon the population.

Pleaseeeee...
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That's what Obama says does he not?

As a matter of fact the Obama administration is aiding the advances of the MB in America as we speak.

George Soros and ElBaradei both sit on the Board of trustees for the International Crisis Group.
 
#78
#78
gsvol said:
That's what Obama says does he not?

As a matter of fact the Obama administration is aiding the advances of the MB in America as we speak.

George Soros and ElBaradei both sit on the Board of trustees for the International Crisis Group.
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Jeeze, this again?

Do you actually know anything about ElBaradei other than the fact he's from the scary area and practices the scary religion?

George Soros is a proclaimed atheist so I don't really know where you're going with that.
 
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DC Vol said:
Jeeze, this again?

Do you actually know anything about ElBaradei other than the fact he's from the scary area and practices the scary religion?

George Soros is a proclaimed atheist so I don't really know where you're going with that.
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What gives you cause to be so condescending??

Did I post something that isn't factual?

Get out of the beltway much??

FYI the scariest place in the world to me is DC, at least currently.

IlBaradei is publicly supported by the MB and the marxist mullahs of Iran, he'll be a great friend of America no doubt.

Soros is not only a athiest, he is also a fascist of the first order which works well with the muslim brotherhood who have a storied history of fascist alignment.

Brzezinski is also a trustee of the ICG, that's great, we're now seeing just how far reaching and insightful his plan worked out in Afghanistan.
 
#81
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DC Vol said:
Jeeze, this again?

Do you actually know anything about ElBaradei other than the fact he's from the scary area and practices the scary religion?

George Soros is a proclaimed atheist so I don't really know where you're going with that.
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Don't know much about the guy, but leading the MB in opposition is all that I need to know.
 
#82
#82
Official Google Blog: Some weekend work that will (hopefully) enable more Egyptians to be heard

Like many people we’ve been glued to the news unfolding in Egypt and thinking of what we could do to help people on the ground. Over the weekend we came up with the idea of a speak-to-tweet service—the ability for anyone to tweet using just a voice connection.

We worked with a small team of engineers from Twitter, Google and SayNow, a company we acquired last week, to make this idea a reality. It’s already live and anyone can tweet by simply leaving a voicemail on one of these international phone numbers (+16504194196 or +390662207294 or +97316199855) and the service will instantly tweet the message using the hashtag #egypt. No Internet connection is required. People can listen to the messages by dialing the same phone numbers or going to twitter.com/speak2tweet.

We hope that this will go some way to helping people in Egypt stay connected at this very difficult time. Our thoughts are with everyone there.
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I've always loved Google.
 
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bam15 said:
Don't know much about the guy, but leading the MB in opposition is all that I need to know.
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He doesn't support the actual message of the MB but is vocally supporting them because he needs their support. If he's the guy... he'll be secular. Bear in mind the MB latched on after this guy led an opposition to the current government.

At this point, though, they're all words. The MB has said it seeks no power in the Egyptian government and ElBaradei has stated that he will be cooperative with the US... though he won't be bought.


This guy says it all:
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But there will be people here that see them all as "freedom hating terrorists"
 
#88
#88
lots of anti US propoganda in egypt coming from different media sources. no surpise they blame us.
 
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droski said:
lots of anti US propoganda in egypt coming from different media sources. no surpise they blame us.
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Do you blame them for blaming us? We paid boatloads of money and supported a corrupt regime.

The world is not the US's playpen. The sooner we realize that the better. The US fought for their own independence in order to be able to self-govern without outside influences. How quickly we've forgotten that, it seems.


Also, what sources are you seeing this anti-US propaganda on? Most legit and unbiased news sources have been kicked out by the regime we've funded. Of course they'll try to make the crowd look anti-US in order to retain support for the current rulers.
 
#91
#91
I am mystified by people criticizing Obama for taking the position he has. What's he supposed to do, help Mubarek put down an insurrection that is obviously going to succeed?

Don't you get it? Mubarek is done, out, we have no control over it. The more we look like we are trying to control it, the worse it will be for us.

You want to maximize the chances that a radical Islamic element takes over? Sheesz, its so frickin obvious we have to let this play out and avoid taking sides.
 
#92
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lawgator1 said:
I am mystified by people criticizing Obama for taking the position he has. What's he supposed to do, help Mubarek put down an insurrection that is obviously going to succeed?

Don't you get it? Mubarek is done, out, we have no control over it. The more we look like we are trying to control it, the worse it will be for us.

You want to maximize the chances that a radical Islamic element takes over? Sheesz, its so frickin obvious we have to let this play out and avoid taking sides.
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We damn well better be working our arses off behind the scenes with the Egyptian military (real power holders).
 
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DC Vol said:
Do you blame them for blaming us? We paid boatloads of money and supported a corrupt regime.

The world is not the US's playpen. The sooner we realize that the better. The US fought for their own independence in order to be able to self-govern without outside influences. How quickly we've forgotten that, it seems.


Also, what sources are you seeing this anti-US propaganda on? Most legit and unbiased news sources have been kicked out by the regime we've funded. Of course they'll try to make the crowd look anti-US in order to retain support for the current rulers.
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we're supporting teh suez being stable, but lets face it this is an economic issue, not a political one. we wouldn't be seeing riots if unemployement wasnt' at 20%.

there is plenty of anti US propoganda being broadcasted into egypt from neighboring nations
 
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volinbham said:
We damn well better be working our arses off behind the scenes with the Egyptian military (real power holders).
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I am sure we are. Anyone seriously in contention to take over is going to be at the table with us (and others). But publicly we cannot run the risk of backing the wrong horse.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I am sure we are. Anyone seriously in contention to take over is going to be at the table with us (and others). But publicly we cannot run the risk of backing the wrong horse.
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President Obama has told the embattled president of Egypt, Hosni Mubarak, that he should pledge publicly not to run for another term this fall, effectively withdrawing American support for its closest Arab ally, according to American diplomats in Cairo and Washington.

The message, conveyed by Frank G. Wisner, a seasoned former diplomat with deep ties to Egypt, was not a blunt demand for Mr. Mubarak to step aside now, the diplomats said; rather, he was told to allow free and fair elections in September to elect his successor.

The message, authorized directly by Mr. Obama, appears to take the administration beyond the delicately balanced calls it has already issued for an "orderly transition" to a more politically open Egypt.
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I feel that this has already occurred.

I don't like this at all.
 
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volinbham said:
We damn well better be working our arses off behind the scenes with the Egyptian military (real power holders).
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What do you think the chances of that are considering Obama is president and Hitlery is head of State?

A parallel could be drawn with Algeria when calls for elections ushered in an islamic regime and the military took over.

More on the MB: (excellent read)

American Thinker: Why We Should Fear the Moslem Brother

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What you haven't been told is this: the Moslem Brothers were a small, unpopular group of anti-modern fanatics unable to attract members, until they were adopted by Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich beginning in the 1930s. Under the tutelage of the Third Reich, the Brothers started the modern jihadi movement, complete with a genocidal program against Jews. In the words of Matthias Kuntzel, "[t]he significance of the Brotherhood to Islamism is comparable to that of the Bolshevik Party to communism: It was and remains to this day the ideological reference point and organizational core for all later Islamist groups, including al-Qaeda and Hamas."
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Like the pro-democracy demonstrators out in the streets of Cairo this week, immediately after World War I, Egypt was filled with hope for developing a modern, tolerant society. The Egyptian revolution of 1919 united the country's Moslems, Christians, and Jews around the slogan "Liberty, Equality, Brotherhood." The constitution of 1923 was completely secular, establishing a constitutional monarchy. It took Western democracy as a model and worked for the equal status of women. Jews were an accepted part of public life. There were Jewish members of parliament. The Zionist movement was accepted with "considerable sympathy," because the government's priority was to maintain good relations between the three most important religious groups -- Moslems, Jews, and Coptic Christians. Today, the Jews are gone, and the Copts are viciously persecuted.
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The same thing is happening in Turkey, after Ataturk reorganized the country into the most secular in the mideast about a century ago, giving it's citizens more freedom than in most any country in the region, recent developments have seen a drive to renew the ottoman empire and promote a worldwide rule under an islamic caliphate.

Recently about 30 army officers were arrested in Turkey and charged with plotting a coup, you don't hear much more about that today.

Likewise when the mullahs siezed control of Iran they executed the top echelon of army officers to solidify their power but that came back to bite them in the butt when Saddam declared war on them and they had no accomplished military leaders.

Saddam btw used the mb to help him attain power.

And I don't see how we have gained very much in Iraq or Afghanistan because we are backing governments that use islamic sharia law as a basis for their legal system, all we are doing is to help along the caliphate.

Not to mention US taxpayer funds are spent in this country to promote both the moslem brotherhood and the Turkish backed call for an international caliphate authority, neither of which makes sense on any level.
 
#99
#99
I think the fallacy underlying this situation is that it is a pure democracy movement. I would bet that various factions such as the MB are simply pouring gas on disrest to whip the susceptible into a protest frenzy. I'm not at all convinced it is a widespread demand for democracy.
 
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