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#806
#806
volball625 said:
That makes zero sense. Go spend some more money and ruin soccer some more.
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How does Man City spending money ruin soccer? You have to spend a ton of money in the Premier League if you want to play with the big boys, that's just reality. Ownership can afford it, so why do what you can to try to compete at the top level. Also, La Liga may not be a 2 team league, but you can't deny that the EPL is a much deeper league from top to bottom than it's Spanish counterpart.
 
#807
#807
bleedorange0037 said:
How does Man City spending money ruin soccer? You have to spend a ton of money in the Premier League if you want to play with the big boys, that's just reality. Ownership can afford it, so why do what you can to try to compete at the top level. Also, La Liga may not be a 2 team league, but you can't deny that the EPL is a much deeper league from top to bottom than it's Spanish counterpart.
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I never said one word about the EPL. I probably follow it more than La Liga. Man City is forcing UEFA to establish a rule for fair play because they are buying every single player under the living sun.
 
#809
#809
volball625 said:
I never said one word about the EPL. I probably follow it more than La Liga. Man City is forcing UEFA to establish a rule for fair play because they are buying every single player under the living sun.
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I guess I jumped to a couple conclusions. He said Barca played in a 2 team league. As a Man City fan, I assumed UNAVol was referring to the lack of depth in La Liga as opposed to that of the EPL. You said that makes zero sense, and I was just assuming you meant La Liga wasn't a "2 team league". While there are obviously some weak links in the EPL as well, I feel that top to bottom the EPL is clearly the stronger of the two leagues.

As for the fair play rules to combat Man City, I don't really get it. They have the money to spend so why not let them spend it? I'm sure players love it because all it does is drive their salaries higher if more teams are involved in the bidding for their services. It's no different than what the Yankess do here in the states. I don't really know a whole lot about the financial dynamics of European soccer, but is there any sort of labor union for the players? If so, much like in baseball, I don't see any sort of salary cap on the horizon. However, the absence of a players union would certainly make that goal more attainable. Does UEFA posess the ability to enforce such a cap across multiple leagues in multiple nations? I don't know, but maybe somebody does.
 
#811
#811
bleedorange0037 said:
I guess I jumped to a couple conclusions. He said Barca played in a 2 team league. As a Man City fan, I assumed UNAVol was referring to the lack of depth in La Liga as opposed to that of the EPL. You said that makes zero sense, and I was just assuming you meant La Liga wasn't a "2 team league". While there are obviously some weak links in the EPL as well, I feel that top to bottom the EPL is clearly the stronger of the two leagues.

As for the fair play rules to combat Man City, I don't really get it. They have the money to spend so why not let them spend it? I'm sure players love it because all it does is drive their salaries higher if more teams are involved in the bidding for their services. It's no different than what the Yankess do here in the states. I don't really know a whole lot about the financial dynamics of European soccer, but is there any sort of labor union for the players? If so, much like in baseball, I don't see any sort of salary cap on the horizon. However, the absence of a players union would certainly make that goal more attainable. Does UEFA posess the ability to enforce such a cap across multiple leagues in multiple nations? I don't know, but maybe somebody does.
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It's not about setting a salary cap. UEFA wants teams to spend money that they generate themselves, not from some oil man pumping in money.
 
#812
#812
Never knew this thread existed... I've found my home on Volnation. Now, back to reading the entirety of the thread. This should only take me a week. :zeitung_lesen:
 
#814
#814
volball625 said:
Torres to Chelsea. And Andy Carroll to Liverpool. WTF is Liverpool doing.
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Falling even farther away from any sort of championship form. At this point it's not looking good for them even qualifying for Europa League next year. Torres had been better this year too. He never seemed to be able to get on the field the last couple years, but at least he was scoring some goals this season. Not real sure why they let him go at this point.
 
#815
#815
no worries here. Suarez and Carroll will be a nasty attacking duo for many years to come.

torres is past his prime and has appeared that way for the last 18 months

50 million of Chelskis money is very useful in the summer


Also important to know Torres sent in a transfer request, Liverpool didnt just get rid of him
 
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#816
#816
bleedorange0037 said:
Falling even farther away from any sort of championship form. At this point it's not looking good for them even qualifying for Europa League next year. Torres had been better this year too. He never seemed to be able to get on the field the last couple years, but at least he was scoring some goals this season. Not real sure why they let him go at this point.
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Not sure if serious on this entire post.
 
#817
#817
banman360 said:
no worries here. Suarez and Carroll will be a nasty attacking duo for many years to come.

torres is past his prime and has appeared that way for the last 18 months

50 million of Chelskis money is very useful in the summer


Also important to know Torres sent in a transfer request, Liverpool didnt just get rid of him
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It's not that they sold him, it's what they paid for Carroll. They are out of their minds. They paid what Barcelona did for David Villa. And more than what City paid for Dzeko. Two strikers who are miles better than Carroll.
 
#818
#818
volball625 said:
Not sure if serious on this entire post.
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It just seems a bit odd that they chose to let him go at this point when he's finally giving them something after putting up with the last couple seasons when he literally couldn't even get healthy enough to get on the field. I've never particularly liked Torres, he's always seemed a bit overhyped to me. The constant health concerns are what was most discouraging. There's no disputing that he's insanely talented. I guess it's good that they collected such a huge sum of money on the transfer fee though. Like was mentioned earlier, they ought to be able to put that money to better use than the often unreliable Torres.
 
#819
#819
volball625 said:
It's not that they sold him, it's what they paid for Carroll. They are out of their minds. They paid what Barcelona did for David Villa. And more than what City paid for Dzeko. Two strikers who are miles better than Carroll.
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David Villa is aging


We will see about Dzeko. Also remember Carroll is only 22
 
#821
#821
bleedorange0037 said:
It just seems a bit odd that they chose to let him go at this point when he's finally giving them something after putting up with the last couple seasons when he literally couldn't even get healthy enough to get on the field. I've never particularly liked Torres, he's always seemed a bit overhyped to me. The constant health concerns are what was most discouraging. There's no disputing that he's insanely talented. I guess it's good that they collected such a huge sum of money on the transfer fee though. Like was mentioned earlier, they ought to be able to put that money to better use than the often unreliable Torres.
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Torres just didn't give a **** this entire season. It was obvious in his body language that he just wasn't all there. He's certainly a top 3 striker though when he wants to be. Him and Drogba are going to be hilariously good.
 
#822
#822
volball625 said:
Torres just didn't give a **** this entire season. It was obvious in his body language that he just wasn't all there. He's certainly a top 3 striker though when he wants to be. Him and Drogba are going to be hilariously good.
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#824
#824
as it has developed its starting to look more and more like this was the best move given the circumstances for both Liverpool and Torres

Torres had clearly given up on Liverpool and has said so in his recent interviews

Liverpool was given a rare chance to buy whoever they wanted. The original bid for Carroll was 25 mill. Newcastle said it would take 10 mill more, not because thats what they thought he was worth but more because they didnt want to lose him. Liverpool now has russian money to splash so Newcastle couldnt refuse.

Itll be interesting to see what Liverpool does with the remaining cash in the summer. hopefully they will go after a left back like Coentrao.

Also if you have Fox Soccer Channel you need to be watching it at 10 in the morning on sunday. will be a very intense match
 
#825
#825
Random question. Where do you guys stream your EPL games from? I used to use channelsurfing.net till it got shut down.
 
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