The Big Tech March to Silence Free Speech

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#478
MontyPython said:
Twitter is inconsistent, you are right. But from my perspective I've been saying for years I'd wanted them to ban trump from his account. By the way Twitter did remove the recent Iranian tweet threatening violence towards trump.
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Except all of Parler was banned while a couple of removed tweets was all twitter did. Parler removed tweets from Lin Wood and still got banned.

Are you claiming they are treated equally and it's not politically driven?
 
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VolStrom said:
Looks like Mr Big Shot is better that the rest of us fly over people. Look at me I'm so superior he claims.
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Lawdy. He asked, I answered. Never judge a man til you walk a mile in his shoes... my life is hardly glamorous.
 
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#481
C-south said:
But when Twitter pays you $3M for posting things like this.

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That's why I have mixed feelings about Parler. Well, its one of the reasons.

1) Is an entire platform due to be taken down if it publishes one post that is a call to violence? Or is it 50? 100? I see an article that Amazon pointed to over 70 such posts on Parler, ergo they took them off line. But what is that in context of all other posts and at what point is one such post allowable, but x number is not?

2) Is there not some way to cull out posters who put on statements promoting or excusing violence, and get rid of them, but let everyone else in that community have their say? And if so, how do you draw THAT line?

3) Twitter for example pulled posts from Trump over time, and as his rhetoric increased, the blocking of posts increased, too. So he had plenty of warning he was over the line. Only himself to blame. But what about a person who makes a single intemperate comment? Are they lifetime banned, too? And if not, what's the criteria for going that far?
 
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utvolpj said:
Except all of Parler was banned while a couple of removed tweets was all twitter did. Parler removed tweets from Lin Wood and still got banned.

Are you claiming they are treated equally and it's not politically driven?
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Look it we just experienced an insurrection and the 1st breach of our Capitol since the war of 1812. Parler was the specific vehicle that these insurrectionist used to commit their violence.

Cause / Effect.
 
#484
#484
VolStrom said:
This hasn't seemed to garner much interest but it really disturbs me. Google, Apple and Amazon has seemingly conspired together to remove a competitor from existing as a platform and be an alternative to twitter. First Google removed the app Parler from their download store, then Apple and finally Amazon finished them off by refusing to host their platform.
These big techs seem to have a blatant disregard for free speech anymore and they have unleashed the Kraken on conservatives.
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There is no TRUE freedom of speech in business or public forums. Posts on this forum, for example, are moderated and or deleted and they should be

There is no TRUE freedom of speech in daily life. The concepts of being accountable, non slanderous, non inciteful/seditionist are just a couple concepts that come along for the limiting ride of free speech
 
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#485
MontyPython said:
Look it we just experienced an insurrection and the 1st breach of our Capitol since the war of 1812. Parler was the specific vehicle that these insurrectionist used to commit their violence.

Cause / Effect.
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But we were told Trump used twitter to signal it. Again, political based decisions

Our Capitol had been "breached" many times in recent history. You're just labeling it different or relying on the articles you're using to be accurate. I saw that one
 
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C-south said:
Is that different than promoting violence against law enforcement?
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Not IMO.

But if you're suggesting that Twitter and Facebook did not remove posts that specifically incited violence during the black lives matter movement, please provide a link to that for me. I understand where you're going with this.
 
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utvolpj said:
So you just unknowingly accept and then defend their decision? Wow
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No of course not. If you actually read what Amazon said they told Parler that they needed to moderate the users on their app. Parler chose not to comply with moderating their own app.

The end.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's why I have mixed feelings about Parler. Well, its one of the reasons.

1) Is an entire platform due to be taken down if it publishes one post that is a call to violence? Or is it 50? 100? I see an article that Amazon pointed to over 70 such posts on Parler, ergo they took them off line. But what is that in context of all other posts and at what point is one such post allowable, but x number is not?

2) Is there not some way to cull out posters who put on statements promoting or excusing violence, and get rid of them, but let everyone else in that community have their say? And if so, how do you draw THAT line?

3) Twitter for example pulled posts from Trump over time, and as his rhetoric increased, the blocking of posts increased, too. So he had plenty of warning he was over the line. Only himself to blame. But what about a person who makes a single intemperate comment? Are they lifetime banned, too? And if not, what's the criteria for going that far?
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In this particular case the person was actually rewarded for it. Im sure it wasn’t his only tweet that called for civil unrest and violence. I’m sure there’s plenty of people with likeminded views who were allowed to post the same.
 
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MontyPython said:
Look it we just experienced an insurrection and the 1st breach of our Capitol since the war of 1812. Parler was the specific vehicle that these insurrectionist used to commit their violence.

Cause / Effect.
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BowlBrother85 said:
In a perfect world, Parler would go belly up. Oh, wait a minute....
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They didn’t go belly up.

They were shutdown by Amazon. Google and Apple deplatformed their apps from their stores.

They were the number 1 app being downloaded. Don’t act like Parler is unavailable because of their own failure.

Anti-trust lawsuits should be interesting at least.
 
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MontyPython said:
Not IMO.

But if you're suggesting that Twitter and Facebook did not remove posts that specifically incited violence during the black lives matter movement, please provide a link to that for me. I understand where you're going with this.
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I already did. Hell there are multiple members of Congress who did as well.
 
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MontyPython said:
Look it we just experienced an insurrection and the 1st breach of our Capitol since the war of 1812. Parler was the specific vehicle that these insurrectionist used to commit their violence.

Cause / Effect.
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and no one killed in the middle east was done so from posts or information passed on facebook. Gotcha.
 
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utvolpj said:
But we were told Trump used twitter to signal it. Again, political based decisions

Our Capitol had been "breached" many times in recent history. You're just labeling it different or relying on the articles you're using to be accurate. I saw that one
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Dude where is your logic?

We weren't told trump used Twitter to signal an insurrection, you can read the damn thing yourself dude. I mean how Difficult is it to read what he said? It's not. It's very clear that Donald Trump incited an insurrection.

And are you really trying to set a moral equivalence of the storming of the capital that just occurred and anything that has occurred over the last 50 or a 100 years? If so give me some specific examples where 5 people died, etc.
 
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#498
hog88 said:
Why wasn't twitter taken down?
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I've never stepped foot on Twitters front door so I have no idea what happens on this platform. What I have noticed is that it seems to be the basis for news todays. News articles are just a constant rehash of tweets like they're fact.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It's a weird thing because FB, YouTube, and Twitter have given common people a voice that they never had before. On the net, they have done more for free speech than just about anybody/any entity. Yeah, they are cracking down on some viewpoints but we all have more capability to be heard more than ever before. Even somebody who is kicked off all major social media still has more of a voice than the average Joe did 25 years ago.
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This take is a flaming pile of dog ****. Lol. Don’t worry, even if you’ve been effectively banned from mainstream American discourse for wrongthink, printing presses are much cheaper than they were 25 years ago!
 
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