The Big Tech March to Silence Free Speech

[C-south]

Specifically, what did he say about Martin and Brown that you take exception with?

And how does commuting the sentence of Black Panthers stir the pot? Which particular crimes do you take exception with his having commuted?

The “if I had a son” bs. Sending the DOJ to Ferguson to stir the pot when it was clearly an open and shut case. Let’s not forget about the terrorists who committed “workplace violence”. I’m sure if Trump commuted or pardoned some klan members it would be all good and a sign of “unity”.

 

[Grand Vol]

That's not actually the way it works. The overwhelmingly large majority doesn't get banned. It's such a small number compared to the 74 million who voted for Trump. I would even say the people getting banned are not real conservatives. They are right wing but they're not interested in fiscal responsibility and small government. Their trolls who don't have much of a foundation in politics. These are extreme exceptions to the rule. I've had non-conservative material censored on facebook and guess what? I'm not going to make myself into a persecuted martyr over it. Conservatives are treated unfairly but you guys exaggerate the **** out of what's going on.

And free speech is the same as it's ever been. You are free (from the government) to say what's on your mind and then you have to be ready to bear the social consequences. Nothing has changed, just the words that get you canceled changed.

They blocked the President of the United States. Furthermore, they went in an edited the official POTUS Twitter account.

Facebook even went in and screwed with your icon Ron Paul.

None of this is wrong?

 

[hog88]

If that many of our allies are expressing concern, that's bad, right?

I seem to recall that phrase before...

I don't GAS but it's surprising that all of our members that how opined how Trump was destroying the view of America around the world aren't up in arms.

 

[n_huffhines]

The culture of free speech is diminishing from our society. Cant put that paste back in the tube by voting once it's accepted.

It's always been like this. People didn't like flag burning. If a closeted gay in 1950 publicly said "I like to have sex with men", he would have been canceled. If an atheist had said something terrible about God, he would have been canceled. Conservatives tried to cancel Jane Fonda for being a Vietnam sympathizer.

Nothing changed except the words that get you canceled.

 

[Volgolfer1618]

That's not actually the way it works. The overwhelmingly large majority doesn't get banned. It's such a small number compared to the 74 million who voted for Trump. I would even say the people getting banned are mostly not real conservatives. They are right wing but they're not interested in fiscal responsibility and small government. They're Trump fanboy trolls who don't have much of a foundation in politics or conspiracy theorists. The banned are extreme exceptions to the rule. I've had non-conservative material censored on facebook and guess what? I'm not going to make myself into a persecuted martyr over it. Conservatives are treated unfairly but you guys exaggerate the **** out of what's going on.

And free speech is the same as it's ever been. You are free (from the government) to say what's on your mind and then you have to be ready to bear the social consequences. Nothing has changed, just the words that get you canceled changed.

Words are free speech. To have the threat of blowblack from what you say is not free speech. Yeah you can say a view but you can get in trouble for the view. The left doesnt differentiate the nuances of who's conservative or not, they lump all in the same category

 

[RikidyBones]

It's always been like this. People didn't like flag burning. If a closeted gay in 1950 publicly said "I like to have sex with men", he would have been canceled. If an atheist had said something terrible about God, he would have been canceled. Conservatives tried to cancel Jane Fonda for being a Vietnam sympathizer.

Nothing changed except the words that get you canceled.

Would you argue it was wrong for a gay person to be cancelled?

 

[Kristy*]

How did the Obama admin create this "victim" mentality?

By publicly sympathizing with the black criminals immediately without allowing the investigations to finish and all the facts to be gathered. By sending aids or personally attending funerals of those criminals, thereby elevating their importance over that of the law enforcement community. By constantly pointing out the perceived racial disparity. Etc.

I think Obama is a genuinely good guy. I don't think he intentionally created the snowflake/victim mentality. I think it happened because his administration meddled with state jurisdiction and constantly harped on all the minority injustice, perceived or actual. Life isn't fair. Sometimes things occur because of a matter of happenstance rather than discrimination.

 

[C-south]

It's always been like this. People didn't like flag burning. If a closeted gay in 1950 publicly said "I like to have sex with men", he would have been canceled. If an atheist had said something terrible about God, he would have been canceled. Conservatives tried to cancel Jane Fonda for being a Vietnam sympathizer.

Nothing changed except the words that get you canceled.

So we peaked an now we’re on a complete nosedive. Wish I could make a chart.

 

[Grand Vol]

I don't GAS but it's surprising that all of our members that how opined how Trump was destroying the view of America around the world aren't up in arms.

That's more or less my point. They went complete bat **** crazy saying how our allies didn't think Trump would support NATO. Now, three of the largest members are expressing concern and not a peep?

I'll just add it to the massive list of hypocrisy.

 

[hog88]

That's more or less my point. They went complete bat **** crazy saying how our allies didn't think Trump would support NATO. Now, three of the largest members are expressing concern and not a peep?

I'll just add it to the massive list of hypocrisy.

That pile of hypocrisy is now taller than Everest.

 

[n_huffhines]

Words are free speech. To have the threat of blowblack from what you say is not free speech. Yeah you can say a view but you can get in trouble for the view. The left doesnt differentiate the nuances of who's conservative or not, they lump all in the same category

It is true that you can't say whatever you want without consequence from society. Welcome to society.

 

[n_huffhines]

Would you argue it was wrong for a gay person to be cancelled?

Of course. I don't think white straight males should get canceled either.

People who are hateful (like the hypothetical guy saying something terrible about God/religious types) or associate themselves with hateful people are fair game. It's a societal check on bad behavior.

 

[Kristy*]

He definitely didn’t do anything to promote unity. He also did more than his fair share of race baiting.

And Biden and Harris are picking right up where he left off. After the storming of the Capitol debacle, they had a great opportunity to try to unite our country but instead doubled down on their divisive ideology by accusing the officers of treating white rioters differently than BLM "protestors." Our country needs unity more than ever, and they are ripping us further apart with their agenda.

 

[Ttucke11]

Of course. I don't think white straight males should get canceled either.

People who are hateful (like the hypothetical guy saying something terrible about God/religious types) or associate themselves with hateful people are fair game. It's a societal check on bad behavior.

Doesn't matter who you personally think should or should not be cancelled, the genie is out of the bottle. You guys might think some of us are exaggerating victimhood or whatever, but it is pretty clear this is going to get much worse. It'll soon be a career death sentence to publicly imply a conservative ideology. They have weaponized the mob, verbiage, ideology, and cancel culture. They are being praised for doxxing people who were just in attendance in DC and celebrating people losing their jobs. No one is giving them any blowback, and they will continue to push it further.

 

[Kristy*]

Of course. I don't think white straight males should get canceled either.

People who are hateful (like the hypothetical guy saying something terrible about God/religious types) or associate themselves with hateful people are fair game. It's a societal check on bad behavior.

You know who canceled white, straight males? Racism and sexism are bad. What was the main criteria Biden used to select his VP? Black, female. Check.

It's absurd that this is acceptable.

 

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[n_huffhines]

You know who canceled white, straight males? Racism and sexism are bad. What was the main criteria Biden used to select his VP? Black, female. Check.

It's absurd that this is acceptable.

White straight males are canceled? I'm still employed. People everywhere are still nice and polite to me. I'm not banned from FB. What are you talking about?

It used to be that you had to have a white, male protestant as a VP. At least he didn't have to have a black female as a running mate. #progress

 

[n_huffhines]

Doesn't matter who you personally think should or should not be cancelled, the genie is out of the bottle. You guys might think some of us are exaggerating victimhood or whatever, but it is pretty clear this is going to get much worse. It'll soon be a career death sentence to publicly imply a conservative ideology. They have weaponized the mob, verbiage, ideology, and cancel culture. They are being praised for doxxing people who were just in attendance in DC and celebrating people losing their jobs. No one is giving them any blowback, and they will continue to push it further.

Bet.

The far-right conspiracy theorists doxxed the victims of the Sandy Hook school shooting, FFS. It wasn't an indication that we were on some irreversible course. They're just fringe actors. Stop worrying so much about extremists who don't decide or indicate what society does.

 

[allvol123]

Safety is valued more than freedom in the modern society. Enjoy your cells.

 

[Kristy*]

White straight males are canceled? I'm still employed. People everywhere are still nice and polite to me. I'm not banned from FB. What are you talking about?

It used to be that you had to have a white, male protestant as a VP. At least he didn't have to have a black female as a running mate. #progress

Reverse racism/sexism isn't progress. To achieve equality, you have to treat everyone fairly regardless of ethnicity or gender, not elevate them because of those factors. I'm a female. I wouldn't want to be given a position because of that, just given an opportunity to earn that position like anyone else.

 

[Ttucke11]

Bet.

The far-right conspiracy theorists doxxed the victims of the Sandy Hook school shooting, FFS. It wasn't an indication that we were on some irreversible course. They're just fringe actors. Stop worrying so much about extremists who don't decide or indicate what society does.

Bro, come on. You don't see where this is heading? Most of you guys I disagree with on here, I realize would want to defend others if it came to that, but your voice will be so insignificant compared to the mob. We are ruled by mob mentality now. They will push and push, and whatever they decide to turn on they will justify no matter what. Big Tech has the ability and the will of the controlling government to strike down whatever they see fit. Leftists will argue it's not going against free speech it's ______ in order to make it right in their minds.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

'The president is not above our policies': Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg says she's glad that Trump's accounts have been frozen and there are NO plans to lift ban

Facebook has no plans to lift the block on Donald Trump's account, Sheryl Sandberg said on Monday.

'The president is not above policies we have': Sandberg says Facebook has NO plans to lift Trump ban | Daily Mail Online

 

[n_huffhines]

Reverse racism/sexism isn't progress. I'm a female. I wouldn't want to be given a position because of that, just given an opportunity to earn that position like anyone else.

But you can now be a white male protestant or a black female catholic and be VP. That's the progress. Sorry, there isn't only one-way racism anymore in the US. That's an unfortunate byproduct of progress.

 

[n_huffhines]

Bro, come on. You don't see where this is heading? Most of you guys I disagree with on here, I realize would want to defend others if it came to that, but your voice will be so insignificant compared to the mob. We are ruled by mob mentality now. They will push and push, and whatever they decide to turn on they will justify no matter what. Big Tech has the ability and the will of the controlling government to strike down whatever they see fit. Leftists will argue it's not going against free speech it's ______ in order to make it right in their minds.

Some people want it to go there. They don't have enough power or influence to take it there. Let's be real, you can't cancel half of America.

 

[Ttucke11]

Some people want it to go there. They don't have enough power or influence to take it there. Let's be real, you can't cancel half of America.

Correct. And while they might not have the power now, it seems that it only takes a small portion to speak up for the rest to fall in line. Especially if our new government backs it. As for canceling half of America, I agree. You can't do it, not without causing a real insurrection. I'm concerned they don't really care. They are on the Crusades right now. Many can and have done terrible things, and then are able to justify them. It can be seen by the cognitive dissonance in regards to the Capitol and the riots. Once banking/hosting starts cancelling businesses for non-PC (which could simply be an owner posting a meme supporting Trump at this point) opinions is when we will hit the boiling point very fast.