The Big Tech March to Silence Free Speech

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hog88 said:
I don't know exactly how I feel about this. On one had I'm "yes, screw them bastards" then on the other I'm thinking it's not proper to use taxpayer or employee money for political purposes.
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Might be a good call if antitrust arises and these companies are broken up.
 
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utvols88 said:
Servers keep track of it for data and doesn't have an employee reviewing specific dialog or information. Hosting a website isn't different. Its modern day telephone.
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You can try to frame it however you want, private telephone calls are not comparable to public FB posts. Maybe if FB were moderating your PM's...
 
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hog88 said:
It will be at a minimum 4 years before that happens. I doubt it ever happens, they'll just buy enough politicians to make sure it doesn't.
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If our DOJ is doing it's job, it doesn't matter which political factory is in control.
 
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n_huffhines said:
You can try to frame it however you want, private telephone calls are not comparable to public FB posts. Maybe if FB were moderating your PM's...
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You're not reading what I'm saying. Hosting websites is the utility. Not social media. Websites are a collection data stored on a cloud. That cloud ends at a series of computers. Called servers. Companies offer space on those servers, that's connected to the internet, and when you type in the address, it takes you saved data (web page). Amazon has about HALF of the cloud data. I think Freak has his own server set up. Websites like Twitter need a much more complicated and expensive server quality to host as many people as it does every day. That's why Amazon dominates the market. They have the money to build that network.
 
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utvols88 said:
You're not reading what I'm saying. Hosting websites is the utility. Not social media. Websites are a collection data stored on a cloud. That cloud ends at a series of computers. Called servers. Companies offer space on those servers, that's connected to the internet, and when you type in the address, it takes you saved data (web page). Amazon has about HALF of the cloud data. I think Freak has his own server set up. Websites like Twitter need a much more complicated and expensive server quality to host as many people as it does every day. That's why Amazon dominates the market. They have the money to build that network.
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Thanks for the explanation. This is my industry so I have a pretty good handle on it. You can label it a utility, IDC. It's not the same as a phone call. Storing the data of a paid phone call record is not comparable to storing hundreds and thousands of megs of data a person uploads, for free. Let's be clear about that. We are not customers. We are free riders. The customers are the people paying for ad space. This business model has very little in common with other utilities, if you want to call it that, which is why you can't treat it like other utilities.

If you want to be a cloud storage customer, there are plenty of paid services for that.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Thanks for the explanation. This is my industry so I have a pretty good handle on it. You can label it a utility, IDC. It's not the same as a phone call. Storing the data of a paid phone call record is not comparable to storing hundreds and thousands of megs of data a person uploads, for free. Let's be clear about that. We are not customers. We are free riders. The customers are the people paying for ad space. This business model has very little in common with other utilities, if you want to call it that, which is why you can't treat it like other utilities.

If you want to be a cloud storage customer, there are plenty of paid services for that.
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Not at the level twitter or Parler require. It doesn't have to be step for step the same thing. A phone call is not the same as a letter. Or not the same as a town square. It is today's equivalent to the phone call of decades ago. Tech advances as should our approach on how the tech is manages and distributed in the same fashion as the home phone. It's a utility. I am not arguing the social media platforms are. Those are potentially complicit in antitrust and go against the terms of 230. Whatever the case may be, the actions toward Parler show that either a review or a revision is required. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
 
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C-south said:
No you’re downplaying the power these monopolies like they’re just some weak podunk business. You have no argument when a proper analogy is presented.
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The type or size of the business is irrelevant.

Either you support deregulation of business or you don't. Apparently, like fiscal conservatism - you folks only like to talk about it. But a real laissez-faire economic system, you don't really want that.

It's funny, because it would appear that I'm the only real pro business fee market conservative up in this b*tch.
 
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Septic said:
The type or size of the business is irrelevant.

Either you support deregulation of business or you don't. Apparently, like fiscal conservatism - you folks only like to talk about it. But a real laissez-faire economic system, you don't really want that.

It's funny, because it would appear that I'm the only real pro business fee market conservative up in this b*tch.
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LOL
 
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utvols88 said:
Not at the level twitter or Parler require. It doesn't have to be step for step the same thing. A phone call is not the same as a letter. Or not the same as a town square. It is today's equivalent to the phone call of decades ago. Tech advances as should our approach on how the tech is manages and distributed in the same fashion as the home phone. It's a utility. I am not arguing the social media platforms are. Those are potentially complicit in antitrust and go against the terms of 230. Whatever the case may be, the actions toward Parler show that either a review or a revision is required. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
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I'm all for a fix that makes things better but I have no faith in anybody's ability to deliver a fix. We agree there is a problem. We disagree on how the problem compares to other problems. Your fear centers on the problem, my fear centers on the unknown solution. You have way more faith in the government than I do.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I'm all for a fix that makes things better but I have no faith in anybody's ability to deliver a fix. We agree there is a problem. We disagree on how the problem compares to other problems. Your fear centers on the problem, my fear centers on the unknown solution. You have way more faith in the government than I do.
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Don't get it twisted. I'm not confident it gets fixed. At all. 0%.
 
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Septic said:
The type or size of the business is irrelevant.

Either you support deregulation of business or you don't. Apparently, like fiscal conservatism - you folks only like to talk about it. But a real laissez-faire economic system, you don't really want that.

It's funny, because it would appear that I'm the only real pro business fee market conservative up in this b*tch.
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So what do you do if every utility company refuses to serve you just because?
 
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utvols88 said:
Not at the level twitter or Parler require. It doesn't have to be step for step the same thing. A phone call is not the same as a letter. Or not the same as a town square. It is today's equivalent to the phone call of decades ago. Tech advances as should our approach on how the tech is manages and distributed in the same fashion as the home phone. It's a utility. I am not arguing the social media platforms are. Those are potentially complicit in antitrust and go against the terms of 230. Whatever the case may be, the actions toward Parler show that either a review or a revision is required. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
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If the Piratebay can figure out how to get around hosting issues, one would think that a message board service ought to be able to figure it out.
 
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