The cancel culture is getting out of control

[Vol8188]

This Greta,View attachment 415246

That’s the one. I have tremendous respect for her. It takes a lot of courage to not go to school because the average temp may increase by 2-3 degrees over 100 years. Imagine dedicating your life to something that absurd

 

[n_huffhines]

I’m not sure how much meaning I attach to a Grammy or any other awards show. I mean Greta was nominated for a Nobel prize.

It's not comparable. Greta won because of the political climate. They were nominated for grammy's despite the political climate.

To pretend cancel culture as a whole is a market function is dishonest. For example the attempts to remove Chappelle’s special, despite the fact that the market loves it.

It sounds like you're saying because it's not the majority, then it's not the market, but that doesn't matter.

If the issue were strictly a market issue as you claim, cancel culture wouldn’t need to exist. No one would watch his special or attend his shows. Cancel culture is about small minorities attempting to force their world view on everyone else.

I never once claimed it's strictly a market issue and I don't think you even know what that means, based on what followed.

You create these requirements that are convenient to your argument but aren't based in reality. You've made up the idea that cancel culture is just small minorities. Cancel culture's most prominent days (much more prominent than now) were when prude Christians were putting comedians in jail and banning books, like Lady Chatterly's Lover. That wasn't a small minority canceling. You have an immense distaste for a certain brand of cancel culture, and so you define cancel culture specifically to match that brand of cancel culture, but it's all cancel culture., whether you spread the word that you are boycotting Subway because of the Rapinoe endorsement, or putting #cancelnetflix in your tweet.

It's getting harder and harder to have conversations with you. I don't think you really read what is said, you kinda skim and glob onto things that are convenient. Like you didn't even know it was a HS assembly even tho OP mentioned that at least twice. Then you ask me questions about "what was so horrible" when I never said it was, but did explain what it was. There is plenty of context to get the point, if you read it.

 

[Vol8188]

It's not comparable. Greta won because of the political climate. They were nominated for grammy's despite the political climate.



It sounds like you're saying because it's not the majority, then it's not the market, but that doesn't matter.



I never once claimed it's strictly a market issue and I don't think you even know what that means, based on what followed.

You create these requirements that are convenient to your argument but aren't based in reality. You've made up the idea that cancel culture is just small minorities. Cancel culture's most prominent days (much more prominent than now) were when prude Christians were putting comedians in jail and banning books, like Lady Chatterly's Lover. That wasn't a small minority canceling. You have an immense distaste for a certain brand of cancel culture, and so you define cancel culture specifically to match that brand of cancel culture, but it's all cancel culture., whether you spread the word that you are boycotting Subway because of the Rapinoe endorsement, or putting #cancelnetflix in your tweet.

It's getting harder and harder to have conversations with you. I don't think you really read what is said, you kinda skim and glob onto things that are convenient. Like you didn't even know it was a HS assembly even tho OP mentioned that at least twice. Then you ask me questions about "what was so horrible" when I never said it was, but did explain what it was. There is plenty of context to get the point, if you read it.

It’s not the market because the overwhelming majority of the market likes these things. If you look at the reviews on DC’s last special, the market overwhelmingly loved it. So if the overwhelming majority supports something and only a small minority of woke activists oppose it, how can you proclaim that’s the market at work?

How can a small minorities attempt to forcibly ban popular things we seen as the market? The reason they’re upset is that the market supports such things.

You’re creating a false equivalency here. Can you name anyone or any business that has suffered unjustly from right wing cancel culture in the last 20 years? You always plays this disingenuous game where you pretend the two sides participate in this to an equal extent but that’s obviously untrue.

By saying it’s a bad look for him you’re implying he did/said something awful and then blaming me and proclaiming I can’t read.

Edit: I’ll even concede the fact that a majority can be involved in cancel culture. But you 100% cannot proclaim a small minority of extreme activists attempting to remove something that is successful is just an example of the market functioning properly. It’s the fact that the market functions that upsets the cancel culture proponents

 

[n_huffhines]

It’s not the market because the overwhelming majority of the market likes these things. If you look at the reviews on DC’s last special, the market overwhelmingly loved it. So if the overwhelming majority supports something and only a small minority of woke activists oppose it, how can you proclaim that’s the market at work?

How can a small minorities attempt to forcibly ban popular things we seen as the market? The reason they’re upset is that the market supports such things.

You’re creating a false equivalency here. Can you name anyone or any business that has suffered unjustly from right wing cancel culture in the last 20 years? You always plays this disingenuous game where you pretend the two sides participate in this to an equal extent but that’s obviously untrue.

By saying it’s a bad look for him you’re implying he did/said something awful and then blaming me and proclaiming I can’t read.

Edit: I’ll even concede the fact that a majority can be involved in cancel culture. But you 100% cannot proclaim a small minority of extreme activists attempting to remove something that is successful is just an example of the market functioning properly. It’s the fact that the market functions that upsets the cancel culture proponents

An underwhelming minority is still part of the market, ipso facto, their actions (as long as they are not using government force) are market actions. You don't have to have a majority to be considered a market actor. You just make up false and restrictive constraints for terms I'm using that distract from the point and get us nowhere. I'm not even going to read beyond the first sentence.

 

[Vol8188]

An underwhelming minority is still part of the market, ipso facto, their actions (as long as they are not using government force) are market actions. You don't have to have a majority to be considered a market actor. You just make up false and restrictive constraints for terms I'm using that distract from the point and get us nowhere. I'm not even going to read beyond the first sentence.

Sure a small minority is still a part of the market. The point is the minority is intentionally working against the market. Their entire issue is that the market has promoted something they object to

 

[MemphisVol77]

saying it’s a bad look for him you’re implying he did/said something awful and then blaming me and proclaiming I can’t read.

He actually took the high road while staying consistent with his views.

I haven't watched his most recent special yet, but I've seen his previous specials on Netflix. In the past he has stated that someone else's right's don't extend to the point of requiring him to participate in their delusion.

Instead of arguing with teenagers he ignored them when they attempted to correct him about 'misgendering' people.

From what I gather, he didn't contradict their beliefs, he just didn't submit.

 

[Vol8188]

He actually took the high road while staying consistent with his views.

I haven't watched his most recent special yet, but I've seen his previous specials on Netflix. In the past he has stated that someone else's right's don't extend to the point of requiring him to participate in their delusion.

Instead of arguing with teenagers he ignored them when they attempted to correct him about 'misgendering' people.

From what I gather, he didn't contradict their beliefs, he just didn't submit.

He does a good job of striking a balance between comedy and addressing serious issues in the new special. Worth the time

 

[Vol8188]

Who ranks higher in the oppression Olympics of intersectionality?

A black Muslim or when presumably white trans kids he’s upset?

 

[CagleMtnVol]

 

[Orangeburst]

These people are pathetic

 

[CagleMtnVol]

 

[n_huffhines]

He actually took the high road while staying consistent with his views.

I haven't watched his most recent special yet, but I've seen his previous specials on Netflix. In the past he has stated that someone else's right's don't extend to the point of requiring him to participate in their delusion.

Instead of arguing with teenagers he ignored them when they attempted to correct him about 'misgendering' people.

From what I gather, he didn't contradict their beliefs, he just didn't submit.

He went there to discuss their concerns with him. That was the whole point. That's why he and the administrators tricked the students into this surprise assembly. He literally asked the people who disagreed with him to speak up. Then he didn't like the direction of the conversation, so he ignored them, talked over them, cracked jokes, and said stupid stuff like "I'm better than all of you..." if we are to believe the reporting.

I can't begin to understand how any adult behaving like this with sincere kids could be considered the high road.

 

[MemphisVol77]

Two transgender people were in line and one transgender person was trying to explain

So there were more than two people in line. I wonder if the other people in line were talked over or had jokes cracked?

Sounds like a kafka trap to me.

"I'm better than all of you..."

"I'm better at what I do then all of you in this room combined".
Context definately matters and I'm not certain what he meant by this. I don't think he meant it in a strictly comedic sense because that's too easy. I think he was referring to his perception and observations about social norms and cultural conundrums.

if we are to believe the reporting.

I'm 100% with you here. My money says without one of the kids having an activist parent that's friends with a reporter, then this is a non story we never heard about. I do question the slant of the reporting.

I'm not trying to say this wasn't a bad look for Chappelle. I'm saying he isn't required to acknowledge criticism about misgendering if acknowledging the criticism goes against his belief system. I don't expect a Creationist to defend criticism from an atheist, or vice versa.

Sometimes not acknowledging criticism is keeping the high ground.

 

[n_huffhines]

So there were more than two people in line. I wonder if the other people in line were talked over or had jokes cracked?

Sounds like a kafka trap to me.
"I'm better at what I do then all of you in this room combined".
Context definately matters and I'm not certain what he meant by this. I don't think he meant it in a strictly comedic sense because that's too easy. I think he was referring to his perception and observations about social norms and cultural conundrums.

I'm 100% with you here. My money says without one of the kids having an activist parent that's friends with a reporter, then this is a non story we never heard about. I do question the slant of the reporting.

I'm not trying to say this wasn't a bad look for Chappelle. I'm saying he isn't required to acknowledge criticism about misgendering if acknowledging the criticism goes against his belief system. I don't expect a Creationist to defend criticism from an atheist, or vice versa.

Give me a damn break. This is an incredibly favorable benefit of the doubt and if you read the actual quote, then you would know he is not talking about his perceptions and observations, lol.

Just say you don't want to believe the reporting next time and save yourself 5 paragraphs.

Sometimes not acknowledging criticism is keeping the high ground.

But certainly not when you tricked kids into confronting you about said criticism.

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[n_huffhines]

Another article, different attendees:

“The media’s not here, right?” The two students who spoke with Politico said they were afraid to speak up during the assembly because Chappelle often responded to questions by laughing or making jokes. The comedian reportedly singled out a student who left the room, saying, “Of course she left early.” Seemingly confirming the interaction, Chappelle’s spokesperson told Politico that the person in question “couldn’t even entertain the idea of a conversation.”

"Another question that Politico merely described as “antagonistic” reportedly prompted Chappelle to reply, “I’m better than every instrumentalist, artist, no matter what art you do in this school, right now, I’m better than all of you. I’m sure that will change. I’m sure you’ll be household names soon.”"

 

[MemphisVol77]

"I’m better than every instrumentalist, artist, no matter what art you do in this school, right now, I’m better than all of you. I’m sure that will change. I’m sure you’ll be household names soon.”"

Good catch. I didn't think he'd dunk on high school kids. I was wrong.

Just say you don't want to believe the reporting next time and save yourself 5 paragraphs.

Just say you d̶o̶n̶'t̶ want to believe the reporting next time and save yourself 5 paragraphs.

I've never said I don't believe, or don't want to believe. I even agree that overall it's not a good look for Chappelle. I question the slant of the reporting and I don't hold his response to misgendering criticisms against him. Any response short of submitting and the woke are going to vilify him.

No one as famous as Chappelle but my school tricked the student body into similar assemblies from community leaders. The only difference was we didn't get to voice any objection and weren't free to leave.

 

[n_huffhines]

Dave Chappelle Set for 'Netflix Is a Joke Festival' After Being 'Cancelled'

 

[Orangeburst]

Just a stupid look

 

[Vol423]

My problem with Dave Chappelle is that the man just isn't funny. I started to watch one of his specials on Netflix. I turned it off after about 15-20 minutes.

 

[n_huffhines]

My problem with Dave Chappelle is that the man just isn't funny. I started to watch one of his specials on Netflix. I turned it off after about 15-20 minutes.

I think he's hilarious. IDK what you watched, but I've liked everything I watched. 2 specials ago, he spent a lot of time on trans stuff, which was fine, but wasn't all that funny. When I found out he was going there again on the latest special, I passed on it, so that's the only special I can't speak to.

Edit: and he had the George Floyd special that wasn't really comedy at all

 

[Boca Vol]

My problem with Dave Chappelle is that the man just isn't funny. I started to watch one of his specials on Netflix. I turned it off after about 15-20 minutes.

His Jussie Smollet bit was hilarious.

His last show, there was hardly any comedy in it at all.

 

[McDad]

My problem with Dave Chappelle is that the man just isn't funny. I started to watch one of his specials on Netflix. I turned it off after about 15-20 minutes.

He is funny. And extremely bright / observant.

More accurate to say his brand of comedy doesn't appeal to you.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Domestic Terrorism? I think so.

 

[n_huffhines]

Cancel for choosing to represent your Mother's country?