The cancel culture is getting out of control

[luthervol]

You did

No I didn't. I said it would lead to schools being further segregated.
Race is not the only way, or even the most common way, to segregate - come on guys.

 

[hog88]

No I didn't. I said it would lead to schools being further segregated.
Race is not the only way, or even the most common way, to segregate - come on guys.

Ok why don’t you enlighten us in how other than race schools would segregate?

 

[luthervol]

How will they segregate our schools?

By wealth, parental involvement, athletic ability, etc.....

 

[Vol8188]

By wealth, parental involvement, athletic ability, etc.....

Giving poor people money for private school will increase wealth segregation?

Please explain….

 

[ClearwaterVol]

It would also mean families of lesser means being able to afford better education. If your argument against it is “it would make public schools worse” it seems you’re admitting most people wouldn’t send their kids their unless forced

I agree homeschooling isn’t practical for everyone. I’ve never made that claim.

Most people believe private schools to be better, That is better addressed on a case by case basis. However, vouchers would leave a bigger gap between the haves and the have nots by removing kids and money from the public schools. It would destroy the public school system and there is really no need for it. Parental involvement is what makes any school good or bad. We need to encourage that. Defunding public schools is not the answer.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Giving poor people money for private school will increase wealth segregation?

Please explain….

because it won't cover the cost of tuition completely and poor people won't be able to fund the difference.

If I give a poor person a $10 gift card to Capital Grille.. do you think they are likely to use it?

If you give it to a regular at Capital Grille it will get used but have no real impact because they were going to eat there anyway.

 

[hog88]

End child tax credits and deductions.

 

[Vol8188]

Most people believe private schools to be better, That is better addressed on a case by case basis. However, vouchers would leave a bigger gap between the haves and the have nots by removing kids and money from the public schools. It would destroy the public school system and there is really no need for it. Parental involvement is what makes any school good or bad. We need to encourage that. Defunding public schools is not the answer.

I agree we should encourage parental involvement. That’s why the right brings up the issues of 1 parent households constantly.

Vouchers would allow parents to decide where they believe their child will be best educated. That’s obviously a positive.

How is giving the have nots money for education going to expand a gap?

How would it destroy public schools?

 

[Vol8188]

because it won't cover the cost of tuition completely and poor people won't be able to fund the difference.

When military TA adjusts, so does the cost of school. Many schools would set their rates equal to that of military TA. If public schools can educate children for x amount while paying for school boards, massive pensions, and other unnecessary expenses, so can the market

 

[luthervol]

Giving poor people money for private school will increase wealth segregation?

Please explain….

No, the few poor who would take advantage would fall into the parental involvement or athletic ability segregation.
The majority of vouchers would go to parents already sending their kids to private school (which would put money in their pockets by taking it out of the funds available for public schools).
The rest would be used by parents who are already comparatively well off, but just needed that little bit of additional incentive.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

I agree we should encourage parental involvement. That’s why the right brings up the issues of 1 parent households constantly.

Vouchers would allow parents to decide where they believe their child will be best educated. That’s obviously a positive.

How is giving the have nots money for education going to expand a gap?

How would it destroy public schools?

I raised my daughter in a single parent household, worked full time and was president of the PTA.

 

[Vol8188]

End child tax credits and deductions.

Replace them with increased marriage tax credits

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Replace them with increased marriage tax credits

No, end all deductions, credits etc.

 

[hog88]

I raised my daughter in a single parent household, worked full time and was president of the PTA.

PTA is a great place to pick up chicks.

 

[Vol8188]

because it won't cover the cost of tuition completely and poor people won't be able to fund the difference.

If I give a poor person a $10 gift card to Capital Grille.. do you think they are likely to use it?

If you give it to a regular at Capital Grille it will get used but have no real impact because they were going to eat there anyway.

Knox Catholic charges roughly 12k a year as of today. The US average expense per pupil is over 13k as of 2019.

Where do you get this misinformation?

Edit: probably teacher union propaganda

 

[Vol8188]

No, end all deductions, credits etc.

That only makes sense if you’ve never ran a business. You can’t tax people on more than their actual profit

 

[ClearwaterVol]

PTA is a great place to pick up chicks.

Not where I was. I went to lots of meetings outside my daughter's school and found there to be an inverse relationship between attractiveness and involvement with the PTA. Lots of uggos.

 

[hog88]

Replace them with increased marriage tax credits

I don't want to get into a tax discussion because if I had my way there would be no need for credits or deductions BUT if we're going to have credits and deductions I'd rather see them for not having kids.

 

[Vol8188]

I raised my daughter in a single parent household, worked full time and was president of the PTA.

You don’t think you would’ve done a better job with a second person? The answer is obviously yes. People on the left often try to bring up this weird example (I did it!). Cool. Doesn’t mean it’s optimal

 

[ClearwaterVol]

You don’t think you would’ve done a better job with a second person? The answer is obviously yes. People on the left often try to bring up this weird example (I did it!). Cool. Doesn’t mean it’s optimal

Knox Catholic charges roughly 12k a year as of today. The US average expense per pupil is over 13k as of 2019.

Where do you get this misinformation?

Edit: probably teacher union propaganda

Tennessee spends about 8k per kid.

 

[hog88]

Not where I was. I went to lots of meetings outside my daughter's school and found there to be an inverse relationship between attractiveness and involvement with the PTA. Lots of uggos.

That wasn't the case at our kids schools I substituted for the wife at the PTA meetings for awhile when she was traveling all the time. It was eye opening being the one of the only guys at those meetings and events. Worse than being a dance dad.

 

[hog88]

Tennessee spends about 8k per kid.

The state spends about $11,139 per student, ranking 44th out of 51 states and the District of Columbia, according to the report, Making the Grade 2021, by the Education Law Center.Oct 28, 2021

Tennessee spends nearly $4K less per student than national average

 

[ClearwaterVol]

That wasn't the case at our kids schools I substituted for the wife at the PTA meetings for awhile when she was traveling all the time. It was eye opening being the one of the only guys at those meetings and events. Worse than being a dance dad.

It was kind of funny because I was usually the only male. When I first became president, I recruited fathers. When I left one of the men took over as president. But yeah the level of attractiveness was not high.

 

[Vol8188]

Tennessee spends about 8k per kid.

That’s a measure of the local spending. It does not include the federal spending

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Tennessee spends nearly $4K less per student than national average

Education Spending by State | Funding Education