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#101
#101
Incinigator said:
Lebron, Wall, Cousins, Durant...Rose, Evans...Calipari

Great ? "once in a decade" type players?

NONE of these players/coaches has won SQUAT at the NCAA or NBA level !

They have sold some shoes, i guess.
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Ummm when you go in the Top 10 picks you tend to be drafted by a crappy team.
 
#102
#102
Incinigator said:
Lebron, Wall, Cousins, Durant...Rose, Evans...Calipari

Great ? "once in a decade" type players?

NONE of these players/coaches has won SQUAT at the NCAA or NBA level !

They have sold some shoes, i guess.
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And to say they haven't won squat is a flat out lie.
 
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#103
#103
Incinigator said:
Lebron, Wall, Cousins, Durant...Rose, Evans...Calipari

Great ? "once in a decade" type players?

NONE of these players/coaches has won SQUAT at the NCAA or NBA level !

They have sold some shoes, i guess.
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Way to include Lebron to discuss not succeeding in college.
 
#105
#105
droski said:
i'd love to know how many of these guys actually take full course loads and pass the classes.
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Who cares? I'm not sure why it's such a big deal that John Wall wastes his time writing essays and cramming for calculus when his career will very obviously not involve any of that. It's one thing to be sure that players have other options if the athletics career doesn't work out, but I don't see why schools have to be held accountable for one and done players who are only in college because a stupid rule mandates it.
 
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#107
#107
tvolsfan said:
Who cares? I'm not sure why it's such a big deal that John Wall wastes his time writing essays and cramming for calculus when his career will very obviously not involve any of that. It's one thing to be sure that players have other options if the athletics career doesn't work out, but I don't see why schools have to be held accountable for one and done players who are only in college because a stupid rule mandates it.
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i agree which is why they shouldn't require them to go to college in the first place.
 
#108
#108
droski said:
i agree which is why they shouldn't require them to go to college in the first place.
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Can't argue that. As far as graduation rates and academic standing, I'm only concerned about the people who actually need it. If John Wall failed every class and Cal played him anyways, I have no problem with that.
 
#114
#114
getyopopcornready said:
No, they're not. That may make sense to have that type of system, but it does not work like that. And coaches know it, but those rules are ignored all the time.
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That's fine with me. A coach prepping a top recruit for the NBA does far more for him than his history professor could.
 
#118
#118
Incinigator said:
I neglected to mention the many victories over Southern Miss., UAB, UCF, 76ers, Pacers,Nets, Northeastern, Lasalle and St. Bonaventure.
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Conference titles constitutes not winning squat? I guess it's safe to assume then that you didn't celebtrate or get excited when Florida wins the SEC title game in Atlanta?
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#119
#119
tvolsfan said:
That's fine with me. A coach prepping a top recruit for the NBA does far more for him than his history professor could.
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Obviously. But that has nothing to do with it in the eyes of the NCAA. I'm just saying the rule is that a player has to finish in good standing. You can choose to follow that or not, it's their choice.
 
#120
#120
droski said:
i agree which is why they shouldn't require them to go to college in the first place.
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Exactly. The NCAA preaches that education is important for the athletes, but then allow players to spend one year in college. If you are going to make them go to college instead of straight to the NBA, you need to make them go at least 3 years, but if they really care about education and not just money, they should make it 4 years mandatory in all sports.
 
#121
#121
timmy said:
Exactly. The NCAA preaches that education is important for the athletes, but then allow players to spend one year in college. If you are going to make them go to college instead of straight to the NBA, you need to make them go at least 3 years, but if they really care about education and not just money, they should make it 4 years mandatory in all sports.
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You can't force someone to stay in college. And no one's making these one and dones go to college.
 
#124
#124
timmy said:
Exactly. The NCAA preaches that education is important for the athletes, but then allow players to spend one year in college. If you are going to make them go to college instead of straight to the NBA, you need to make them go at least 3 years, but if they really care about education and not just money, they should make it 4 years mandatory in all sports.
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The NCAA has nothing to do with setting the age limit in professional sports. They play the hand dealt to them. When the NBA changed the rule to improve their product on the court, the NCAA had to rationalize how to deal with one and dones. I thought the APR score was set to address that issue, but I guess not.

It wasn't long ago you'd have Monster Mash and Derek Anderson as fine products related to UK. Now you have Wall and Cousins related to Cal - UK is an afterthought in the equation. They are only using UK - it could be anywhere.

It's really sad that universities of education like UK are being used by players and coaches to make money and not contribute to the institution of higher learning one bit.

On second thought, it's actually funny since I'm talking about academia at UK in the first place.
 
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