the consequences of the spread

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keckjm said:
CBJ's offense avgs close to 200 yards rushing per game. He's not a coach who throws 50 times and runs 20. The biggest difference you will see with CBJ will be speedy WRs running short to medium routes instead of trying to go for the long ball all the time. CBJ's offense lives on 3-12 yard passes. Pig, Bowels, Smith, Dallas, and Blanc (If he stays at WR) will all thrive in CBJ's offense. Croom will become our red zone threat WR, and North and Harris will be our big time play makers just like Thompkins was at Cincy except Harris and North will be way better.
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Mark it down. Bowels is going to blow it up this year.
 
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tim said:
Wth are you rambling about? SC runs the spread, Graham came from SC.
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your right. he is rambling. Sounds funny coming from a gator since thats pretty much what offense CUM ran at fla. didn't he win a few games with it?
 
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dovervolz said:
your right. he is rambling. Sounds funny coming from a gator since thats pretty much what offense CUM ran at fla. didn't he win a few games with it?
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nobody was knocking the spread in the original post.

what i basically said was that jay graham wasn't a fit for what the new staff wants to do.

no mention of the offense being good or bad was made.
 
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99gator said:
i wanted to let the board cool down a bit before posting this.

but, i think part of the reason tee martin and jay graham are not at tennessee is a direct consequence of the spread.

there are positives and negatives to everything.

the negative of the spread is that only a few run it and only a few coach it. some don't even want to coach it. they don't believe in it philosophically and if they rise in the coaching ranks that's not the route they want to go.

well, since tennessee has never run the spread, there is no vfl who is familiar with the spread.

this is a blessing in a way. it's one thing for players to adjust to a new system, but you don't want coaches to have to adjust to a new system.

it also ain't a picnic going back from the spread to a more traditional offense when the time comes.

don't be too hard on tee or jay. it makes a whole lot of sense
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Since Jones said he will run a pro style offense, your thread is pointless.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
I said earlier today our regular Gator fans are solid posters (I'm thinking mostly of you, Lawrence, and Lawgator).

This is another example.

Having said that, it appears the Cryptkeeper's pact with the Booger Eater to ensure he didn't have to hire Gruden is responsible for Jay going to FSU.
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Try loosening the tin foil hat.
 
#38
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thebjd said:
The zone read version of the spread is probably what he meant and he is correct. We have never ran that offense and I am personally not a fan.
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This..the only time its won a championship is when a special qb comes along.. all others r average to below in wins...

I believe if cbj shoves his spread down these players throat n not play to the teams strengths we r toast n cbj will be another rich rod... hopefully he is adaptable or we r toast this year.
 
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KCVolLaw said:
Gator swung and missed badly. Notice how he conveniently overlooks your post that immediately makes him look stupid.
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south carolina did not run the zone read as their basic offense. they did run some zone read and ran it more when shaw became qb.

the point is the same. graham is not a zone read coach.
 
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99gator said:
south carolina did not run the zone read as their basic offense. they did run some zone read and ran it more when shaw became qb.

the point is the same. graham is not a zone read coach.
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You haven't seen our offense yet.

Graham's two biggest jobs have been a RB coach where there are spread elements. So I'm not sure what leads you to know exactly what kind of coach he wants to be. Unless you know him personally.

Maybe you would just like to overlook the obvious that he didn't get paid enough and he got passed over for the rc job so you can enjoy your time kicking the nest.
 
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KCVolLaw said:
You haven't seen our offense yet.

Graham's two biggest jobs have been a RB coach where there are spread elements. So I'm not sure what leads you to know exactly what kind of coach he wants to be. Unless you know him personally.

Maybe you would just like to overlook the obvious that he didn't get paid enough and he got passed over for the rc job so you can enjoy your time kicking the nest.
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if i were trying to kick the nest, i'd argue that graham is no longer at tennessee because tennessee doesn't give a damn about their own.

i'd say that graham should feel honored. he could join majors and fulmer as coaches the school just tossed to the side like they were trash.

that's if i were trying to kick the nest.

but, i didn't say that
 
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KCVolLaw said:
You haven't seen our offense yet.

Graham's two biggest jobs have been a RB coach where there are spread elements. So I'm not sure what leads you to know exactly what kind of coach he wants to be. Unless you know him personally.

Maybe you would just like to overlook the obvious that he didn't get paid enough and he got passed over for the rc job so you can enjoy your time kicking the nest.
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Maybe Graham wanted to work with Randy Sanders who was a U.T. coach when Graham played.
 
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99gator said:
if i were trying to kick the nest, i'd argue that graham is no longer at tennessee because tennessee doesn't give a damn about their own.

i'd say that graham should feel honored. he could join majors and fulmer as coaches the school just tossed to the side like they were trash.

that's if i were trying to kick the nest.

but, i didn't say that
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Kicking the nest in the most retarded way you could think of wouldn't be very much fun though
 
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99gator said:
You can disagree and you did. That's fine.

But, is it ridiculous to believe the new system may have had a role?
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I welcome you kicking the nest long as it is backed up by something.

It's ridiculous until you have any shred of proof, yes.
 
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KCVolLaw said:
That too yes
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The thing that I think that a lot of people are missing is that Graham was working with an entirely new group of people. I wonder what most people on this forum would do if they moved to work at the college that they graduated from, and they worked with about 25 people , and every one of them left. I am saying 25 because I really don't know how many Graduate Assts, support staff, weight room people , trainers, etc.

Then, they get offered a job doing the same thing with someone that they know(Sanders, Sunseri), like, and respect, and get more money to do it. It seems like a no brainer to me.
 
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#50
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Florida ran the spread under Urban Meyer and pretty well spanked us consistently! I don't know if Muschamp runs it at all, but, they still spank us consistently!
 
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