The disney insanity continues

“Should be taught to all four year old children?” Where did I say that? Can you quote it for me?

Of course, I did not say it. I’ve repeatedly and explicitly said that I have no interest in foisting anyone’s preferred culture on anybody. Why is it so hard for you to make one single response without fabricating things like this?

So when you say “Grooming doesn't exist because kids have seen straight people before,” are you walking back your prior statement that “Sexual preference are specifically about sex. You can't discuss sexual preferences without talking about sex?”

Wasn't quoting you. Was jokingly giving up on the conversation because we are on two incredibly different planes of reality. If observing a man and woman together in an animated cartoon is EXACTLY the same as a gender fluid pagan witch "teaching" (or grooming) kids about his personal polyamorous lifestyle, then we simply can't talk to each other. We're speaking different languages. I'm not walking anything back. I'm just giving up on communicating with a person who is unreachable.
 
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Can you direct me to the part of this post that is consistent with my numerous very clear statements that what I’m saying is contingent upon parental preference and approval. Thanks in advance.

I'm replying to several posts.
I thought you disagreed such law should pertain to private schools, and instead rely on market function. I term it abuse that should have legal barrier, not simply a dispute between parents and educators.

I disagreed that Cinderella and the alt-sex/gender pull-advocacy were analogous; we're overwhelmingly wired hetero as a species. Our opposition in the matter is dead set on recruitment. That's not the grooming you and Sam are semantically arguing, but is advocacy (grooming) to the lifestyle and away from hetero-norm and nuclear family. It is sexualizing them at the most vulnerable age and in perhaps the setting making them most susceptible which is why school was chosen as the battleground.

Do you agree or disagree this is a calculated, leftist political movement?
 
I'm replying to several posts.
I thought you disagreed such law should pertain to private schools, and instead rely on market function. I term it abuse that should have legal barrier, not simply a dispute between parents and educators.

I disagreed that Cinderella and the alt-sex/gender pull-advocacy were analogous; we're overwhelmingly wired hetero as a species. Our opposition in the matter is dead set on recruitment. That's not the grooming you and Sam are semantically arguing, but is advocacy (grooming) to the lifestyle and away from hetero-norm and nuclear family. It is sexualizing them at the most vulnerable age and in perhaps the setting making them most susceptible which is why school was chosen as the battleground.

Do you agree or disagree this is a calculated, leftist political movement?
One problem with your post is that it is necessarily underpinned by the assumption that parents cannot be trusted to act in the best interest of their child, and actually that they will go out of their way to pay for their child to be abused.

That is because you have retained all the motives (“abuse,” “recruitment,” “sexualizing,” and “advocacy”) that have been supplied under the framework in which you say this is a nefarious endeavor by the leftist teacher’s union school board cabal, or whatever, and applied them to a free market driven by parents’ choices.

That’s absurd. Sure there will be instances of parents abusing their children, but once you start assuming that parents writ large can’t be trusted to recognize abuse or decide what’s best for their child then you’re engaging in the same failed regime, you’ve just substituted your own cultural norms and preferences for the leftist teachers’ union school board cabal.

That’s why I say that when the decision is left to the parent, there should be a barely rebuttable presumption that they are acting in the best interest of the child and the market will do what markets do.

If you’re saying that schools will “abuse” children without the parent’s consent, then I really don’t have a problem with a law that prohibits that. In fact, I believe they already exist.
 
I am starting to wonder what the "+" is for. Sure it will be super nauseating
They're trying to hide "MAP" in there. It's become mainstream to glom that onto the movement, despite me being repeatedly told it wasn't an accepted part of it by some here.
 
They're trying to hide "MAP" in there. It's become mainstream to glom that onto the movement, despite me being repeatedly told it wasn't an accepted part of it by some here.

I dont even know what that acronym means, and not going to look it up as I dont need any more vinegar. I know without knowing.
 
Had someone legitimately in the know who has studied what all of this nonsense comes from and it harkens back to ideology that started through the Frankfurt school in Germany and led to a confusing, long winding path to the current culture war we are in today and why so many young people are disillusioned, confused, and nihilistic because of post-modernist thought. The cultural conditioning (I would say brain-washing) is in full effect and on full display right now.

So...

The idea that there is a normal, specifically with sexuality, implies that there is privilege. And for the insane left, all privilege must be destroyed. Those that are considered traditional cis and/or hetero sexual are seen as privileged because society agrees that it is normal and "healthy." Naturally, what is considered normal and healthy will be propped up by the society at large (privilege) while those that differ from what is normal will not receive the same benefits as the "privileged."

Therefore, this idea of normal must be destroyed and replaced. With what? Well, the fact that a new letter from the alphabet gets added every 6 months to LGBTWhatever, makes it appear they don't know what the f*** they are doing either.

It is less about what replaces the "normal" and more about that it just gets destroyed. It is a vicious road that will only lead to more destruction.

What is worse is that it's being force fed to young kids. This ideology must get into minds at a young age to take effect down the road. We have entered a realm where adults are brainwashing young kids with sexual perversion in order to feel good about their own sexual life choices.

It's like they are so weak that they aren't even convinced of their own sexual identity so they have to socially engineer a culture to accept their own delusions.
 
Funny seeing the old white men on Volnation so utterly confused about gender. Get out of your own echo chamber.

What's confusing is all the mushroom brains that think God left out 75 genders and only picked up on two of them. God made man. He took from man a rib, and made woman. He stopped there. Any thing else is the freedom of choice to not follow God or a mental disorder, but that don't change your DNA.
 
What's confusing is all the mushroom brains that think God left out 75 genders and only picked up on two of them. God made man. He took from man a rib, and made woman. He stopped there. Any thing else is the freedom of choice to not follow God or a mental disorder, but that don't change your DNA.

Believing that rib story is evidence of a mental disorder.
 
Believing that rib story is evidence of a mental disorder.

Likley not, but we can discuss it at judgement day if you like.

Not believing the rib story, but believing in an explosion or that you were once a fuzzy little ape is a huge step forward. lol.

Funny thing about that evo story...where are all the current half-baked apes, or the human half evolved into the next species??

Either way, I'd rather end my days finding out I had a mental disorder, than finding out I was wrong for not believing the story.

Besides, there's plenty of historical evidence known around the holy lands to corraborate what is read in that story. If one so chooses to believe.
 
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Likley not, but we can discuss it at judgement day if you like.

Not believing the rib story, but believing in an explosion or that you were once a fuzzy little ape is a huge step forward. lol.

Funny thing about that evo story...where are all the current half-baked apes, or the human half evolved into the next species??

Either wy, I'd rather end my days finding out I had a mental dispoerder, than finding out I was wrong for not believing the story.

I don't believe I was a fuzzy little ape. Kind of weird that is what you took from your science classes.
 
Had someone legitimately in the know who has studied what all of this nonsense comes from and it harkens back to ideology that started through the Frankfurt school in Germany and led to a confusing, long winding path to the current culture war we are in today and why so many young people are disillusioned, confused, and nihilistic because of post-modernist thought. The cultural conditioning (I would say brain-washing) is in full effect and on full display right now.

So...

The idea that there is a normal, specifically with sexuality, implies that there is privilege. And for the insane left, all privilege must be destroyed. Those that are considered traditional cis and/or hetero sexual are seen as privileged because society agrees that it is normal and "healthy." Naturally, what is considered normal and healthy will be propped up by the society at large (privilege) while those that differ from what is normal will not receive the same benefits as the "privileged."

Therefore, this idea of normal must be destroyed and replaced. With what? Well, the fact that a new letter from the alphabet gets added every 6 months to LGBTWhatever, makes it appear they don't know what the f*** they are doing either.

It is less about what replaces the "normal" and more about that it just gets destroyed. It is a vicious road that will only lead to more destruction.

What is worse is that it's being force fed to young kids. This ideology must get into minds at a young age to take effect down the road. We have entered a realm where adults are brainwashing young kids with sexual perversion in order to feel good about their own sexual life choices.

It's like they are so weak that they aren't even convinced of their own sexual identity so they have to socially engineer a culture to accept their own delusions.
You hit the nail on the head
 
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I don't believe I was a fuzzy little ape. Kind of weird that is what you took from your science classes.
So, what were you? Did you not see those evolution charts? Or, how did you come about a perfectly created functioning body that no man has ever re-created.
 
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Who’s advocating for that?

I think the use of the word “if,” for those capable of comprehending big words, leaves room for all other possible concerns over the actions of a preschool teacher.

7 pages later and he's still fighting this weird strawman of his, and refuses to answer any questions about who is making these claims he's railing against. While also admiring he doesn’t even know if the problem he has is real (if the bill effects private schools)
 
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Ever notice how the "moderates" on here never condemn any of this stuff?

A moderate understands freedom of choice. You can disagree, challenge, oppose, fight against, etc., without condemning. That's God's job. Those at either end of the spectrum only believe those not like them are wrong and won't accept each other as they are. The issue is forcing another to change their beliefs because of you. You can coincide with anyone peacefully as long both come to hte realization the other's freedom of choice is theirs. Doesn't scientifically validate more than two genders, but if you believe that, that's you. Don't try to force it down my thorat.
 
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A moderate understands freedom of choice. You can disagree, challenge, oppose, fight against, etc., without condemning. That's God's job. Those at either end of the spectrum only believe those not like them are wrong and won't accept each other as they are. The issue is forcing another to change their beliefs because of you. You can coincide with anyone peacefully as long both come to hte realization the other's freedom of choice is theirs. Doesn't scientifically validate more than two genders, but if you believe that, that's you. Don't try to force it down my thorat.

That’s the real issue. The desire to force nonsense down the throats of kids
 
If you guys are going to start advocating for the nanny state to mandate that ****** parents can’t (intentionally or unintentionally) send their kids to preschools that teach about gender fluidity or polyamorism, then can we at least dispense with the parental rights ******** and admit that this is just a different type of forced indoctrination?

Raising your kids within your belief system is your responsibility and right. It's nobody elses business to tell you that you are wrong and they will teach your kids at age 5 about the other 75 made up genders. School is for academic learning. Granted there are Humanities disciplines within the education framework, but they should be held to neutral positions, and leave the rest to the parents.
 

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