The disney insanity continues

[Orangeburst]

@Septic

How much is Disney going to have to pay now? Simple question.

That 25% increase in taxes to the county...BS. Some rube took some mathematical fraction and ran with it and you ate the dumbass pill. You probably thought it was a gummy.

 

[VolStrom]

I can't wait for the road to the main Disney gate is littered with potholes and the toilets are backed up.

 

[Septic]

@Septic

How much is Disney going to have to pay now? Simple question.

That 25% increase in taxes to the county...BS. Some rube took some mathematical fraction and ran with it and you ate the dumbass pill. You probably thought it was a gummy.

I get it dude, it's not a great look for citizens to unnecessarily have their taxes increased. But is just saying "nu uh" really where you're going to plant your flag?

You think denial and magic is going to pay for police, road maintenance, fire, water treatment etc?

 

[UT_VOLS13]

I get it dude, it's not a great look for citizens to unnecessarily have their taxes increased. But is just saying "nu uh" really where you're going to plant your flag?

You think denial and magic is going to pay for police, road maintenance, fire, water treatment etc?

Who cares!

 

[Orangeburst]

I get it dude, it's not a great look for citizens to unnecessarily have their taxes increased. But is just saying "nu uh" really where you're going to plant your flag?

You think denial and magic is going to pay for police, road maintenance, fire, water treatment etc?

No you dont get it.

Answer the one question..I have asked for it many times..this is the last time. You are trying to solve an equation without a required variable.

How much more will Disney pay in taxes?

 

[Septic]

Who cares!

The ~1.7m citizens who will have their taxes needlessly increased?

Again, I'll remind you of the thermonuclear meltdown by the right when Obama sic'd the IRS on conservative groups.

Just be reminded of this when the shoe is on the other foot.

 

[VolStrom]

I get it dude, it's not a great look for citizens to unnecessarily have their taxes increased. But is just saying "nu uh" really where you're going to plant your flag?

You think denial and magic is going to pay for police, road maintenance, fire, water treatment etc?

Do you really think that Disney is just going to abandon all of their infrastructure and not pay a dime for their roads/sewer/water/police/fire etc.? I thought about this for a few seconds and realized that yes, with the current CEO, they just might. Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[MurphyVol]

No you dont get it.

Answer the one question..I have asked for it many times..this is the last time. You are trying to solve an equation without a required variable.

How much more will Disney pay in taxes?

Per the tax commission of Orange country, the additional taxes Disney will pay is somewhere around negative $105 million per year

 

[Septic]

No you dont get it.

Answer the one question..I have asked for it many times..this is the last time. You are trying to solve an equation without a required variable.

How much more will Disney pay in taxes?

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

If you have a point, make it and stop pretending you have some sort of trump card.

If you know the answer, offer it up. I will gladly capitulate if you can demonstrate how revenge from DeSantis will benefit his constituents and not cause them undue financial harm.

 

[Septic]

Do you really think that Disney is just going to abandon all of their infrastructure and not pay a dime for their roads/sewer/water/police/fire etc.? I thought about this for a few seconds and realized that yes, with the current CEO, they just might. Stupid is as stupid does.

Disney won't have any choice, it wouldn't belong to them. Do you honestly believe that Disney would continue paying $150m+ annually for something that they don't have to? You think the shareholders would just ignore that part of a P&L?

 

[MurphyVol]

Disney won't have any choice, it wouldn't belong to them. Do you honestly believe that Disney would continue paying $150m+ annually for something that they don't have to? You think the shareholders would just ignore that part of a P&L?

And just so nobody freaks out, P&L does not stand for pansexual & lesbians.

 

[Septic]

And just so nobody freaks out, P&L does not stand for pansexual & lesbians.

It's hard to understand how these guys don't understand how bad of a deal this is for that community. I suppose denial and apathy is all that's left in the face of facts. As long as the mouse gets it, tyrannical government and higher taxes for others is OK.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/21/dis...-face-a-1-billion-debt-bomb-if-dissolved.html

To fund the government services of Reedy Creek, Disney effectively taxes itself. While the precise tax flows of Reedy Creek are unclear, Scott Randolph, the tax collector for Orange County, said the Reedy Creek district collects roughly $105 million annually in general revenue.


On top of the $105 million, Disney also pays local property taxes. Public records show Disney is the largest taxpayer in central Florida, paying over $280 million in property taxes to the counties between 2015 and 2020.
If the special district is dissolved, Orange and Osceola counties would have to provide the local services currently provided by Reedy Creek. And, the $105 million in revenue would disappear, meaning county and local taxpayers would be on the hook for part or all of the added costs.

“If you dissolved Reedy Creek, that $105 million in revenue literally goes away, it doesn’t get transferred,” Randolph said.

 

[MurphyVol]

It's hard to understand how these guys don't understand how bad of a deal this is for that community. I suppose denial and apathy is all that's left in the face of facts. As long as the mouse gets it, tyrannical government and higher taxes for others is OK.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/21/dis...-face-a-1-billion-debt-bomb-if-dissolved.html

Yet the actual tax break (because, as stated many times Reedy isn't a "break") for Disney stands lol

Disney’s $578 Million Tax Break Left Untouched in DeSantis Feud

 

[Septic]

Per the tax commission of Orange country, the additional taxes Disney will pay is somewhere around -$105 million per year

Apparently that line item of $105m is already paid by Disney, it won't be an additional tax. It's already what they're paying for the services. The source I linked doesn't show it to be an additional, it's what they're already paying - and that will go away.

 

[MurphyVol]

Apparently that line item of $105m is already paid by Disney, it won't be an additional tax. It's already what they're paying for the services. The source I linked doesn't show it to be an additional, it's what they're already paying - and that will go away.

My intention was to say Negative $105 mil haha. The minus sign is small

 

[Septic]

Yet the actual tax break (because, as stated many times Reedy isn't a "break") for Disney stands lol

Disney’s $578 Million Tax Break Left Untouched in DeSantis Feud

Doesn't sound like they could if they wanted to, reneging on that would end poorly for the State.

 

[Septic]

My intention was to say Negative $105 mil haha. The minus sign is small

That makes sense. I'm sure @Orangeburst will drop by to say "nu uh" as a fierce rebuttal to.... math.

 

[MurphyVol]

Doesn't sound like they could if they wanted to, reneging on that would end poorly for the State.

I think DeSantis knows this one brings jobs and the Reedy deal will fall apart as time goes on.

 

[Orangeburst]

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

If you have a point, make it and stop pretending you have some sort of trump card.

If you know the answer, offer it up. I will gladly capitulate if you can demonstrate how revenge from DeSantis will benefit his constituents and not cause them undue financial harm.

You are effed up. with such a dumbass response. Asked you a question and you cannot answer. You draw your conclusion about 25% in increased citizen taxes and cannot back it it.
Initially called that "dishonest", but the crux of the matter you are lying.

 

[happy-go_vol]

The irony of you guys whining about "groomers" is rich. Having MTG sitting there with Gaetz? You can't make this stuff up. My guess is that he only made it to her trial because his girl friends spring break was over. And frankly, based on "her" looks and demeanor - I'm not convinced Marjorie Taylor Greene didn't used to be known as Mark Taylor Greene.

You still couldn't get it, him or her

 

[Orangeburst]

Per the tax commission of Orange country, the additional taxes Disney will pay is somewhere around negative $105 million per year

So Disney gets a windfall. Then why are they complaining and stock dropping like a rock?

The district will impose the needed taxes on this dynamic situation.

 

[Septic]

You are effed up. with such a dumbass response. Asked you a question and you cannot answer. You draw your conclusion about 25% in increased citizen taxes and cannot back it it.
Initially called that "dishonest", but the crux of the matter you are lying.

I've cited sources that back up what is common sense to objective, rational people.

Your blind hatred for Disney is making you look ridiculous.

Read the following slowly, and then read it again.

Orange County Tax Collector Scott Randolph, a Democrat and the former ranking member of the Florida House finance and tax committee, claims that if Reedy Creek ceases to exist, the residents of his county and neighboring Osceola will have to take on its tens of millions in bond payments and operational expenses currently paid by Disney, but will be left without the ability to collect revenue because the taxing authority will no longer exist.

Randolph told FOX Business that could mean an increase in property taxes of 25% if Orange County has to absorb all of it.

source

 

[Septic]

So Disney gets a windfall. Then why are they complaining and stock dropping like a rock?

The district will impose the needed taxes on this dynamic situation.

Whose stock didn't drop like a rock on Friday?

 

[Orangeburst]

I've cited sources that back up what is common sense to objective, rational people.

Your blind hatred for Disney is making you look ridiculous.

Read the following slowly, and then read it again.

Orange County Tax Collector Scott Randolph, a Democrat and the former ranking member of the Florida House finance and tax committee, claims that if Reedy Creek ceases to exist, the residents of his county and neighboring Osceola will have to take on its tens of millions in bond payments and operational expenses currently paid by Disney, but will be left without the ability to collect revenue because the taxing authority will no longer exist.

Randolph told FOX Business that could mean an increase in property taxes of 25% if Orange County has to absorb all of it.

BS..

You have reading comprehension issues like all your progressive buds.

"If" and even you threw out a "likely".

Good Lord.

 

[MurphyVol]

So Disney gets a windfall. Then why are they complaining and stock dropping like a rock?

The district will impose the needed taxes on this dynamic situation.

They haven't complained yet

Stocks drop when there are more sellers than buyers on a particular day.

The person in charge of collecting taxes for Orange County said in an interview with Fox Business that they could not impose any special tax on Disney to make up for the self-imposed tax they've been paying Reedy Creek .

Disney's actual half billion in tax breaks remains in place.