"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

#101
#101
case by case

bama vs nd - roll tide

a&m vs ou- gig em

uf vs ul - ul

LSU vs Clemson- clemson

vandy vs nc st- nc st

miss st vs northwesten- NW

uga vs Nebraska- uga

USC e vs Mich. - SC
 
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CountVolcula said:
I don't give two ****s whose coaching Bama when we beat them as long as we beat them

In a military situation, you don't arm your enemy so that you feel better about when you beat them
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Apples vs oranges. Football vs military. We are not trying to kill in football and I would rather beat a top ten team than a cellar dweller. Not that I want to lose to the cellar dweller. All we have to do to beat anyone is out recruit, coach and play any team in the NCAA. I am proud that we play in the best and strongest football conference an cant not wait until we can resume our rightful position in the SEC. When that happens, that means that we are once again among the best football teams in the country rather than being at the top of a lesser conference and not competitive with the best tams in the country. As long as we are a member of the SEC, I want the SEC to be the premier conference playing football. It is the responsibility of our Administration to return us to the level of play required to win in the SEC. We, as fans, must again support out University, Athletic Department, football coaches, and football team until we reach our goal. I don't want to be the best of the worst. I want to be the best of the best.
 
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I generally pull for most sec teams but i hope Bama gets killed. I can't stand Notre Dame but I am sick and tired of Crimson love
 
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VolinWayne said:
I generally pull for most sec teams but i hope Bama gets killed. I can't stand Notre Dame but I am sick and tired of Crimson love
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Same here.

This will be the only time in my life that I'm hoping for a notre freaking dame win.
 
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As much as I hate Bama......I hate ND more. The stinking unwarrented hype and hoopla thrown out there every single year over that POS school sickens me. I'm from the south...am not Catholic......and could give two Sh**s about effing Knute Rockne!

There I said it.
 
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Oskie Volum said:
Wait....isn't Derrick Greens top 2 UT and Meeechigan???? Dumbazzzzzzzzzz.....zzzzzzz!!
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Historically where are our recruiting battles. I understand we recruit nationally but us losing Green to Michigan is not the same as recruits making UGA, UF or Bama their choice? The dumbazz was a classy touch.
 
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GreveHaller said:
the "enemy" argument holds true if the other members of the SEC were truely enemies. When they win we all win from Bama to Kentucky. We're more like the Ewings on Dallas. Alot of fighting and bickering but in the end we're family and after the same goal.

ND, USC, Meechigan, etc.... there's your "enemy"
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Should we call Dooley Cliff Barnes?
 
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Which conference played the most nationally televised games this year?
Which conference gets the most media attention?
Which conference is putting the most players into the NFL?

These are the kinds of questions (regarding conferences ) that interest recruits. If you don't think that having a strong conference top to bottom is a recruiting positive, you are mistaken.
 
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GreveHaller said:
yes we do so actually yours is the dumb comment. Might want to brush up on your recruiting a bit more before commenting
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I shouldn't have said dumb. I just don't think of Bama as family, even in the Dallas sense. We have to beat these teams. Tennessee fans rooting for them does not make them better. Anything that gives us an advantage legally over our competition is what I am in favor of happening. I liked seeing FSU win. A strong FSU and Miami hurts the Gators.
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
Which conference played the most nationally televised games this year?
Which conference gets the most media attention?
Which conference is putting the most players into the NFL?

These are the kinds of questions that interest recruits. If you don't think that having a strong conference top to bottom is a recruiting positive, you are mistaken.
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I liked it better when we could say "Which SEC team puts the most players in the league?"
 
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GBOVOLS said:
This is dumb if the SEC looses all of the bowl games the conference can no longer claim to be the best. You guys want to play in a weaker conference go cheer for a big east team. I take pride in saying we play the national champion year in and out. It to the whole conference benefit. UT has not vol pride or SEC pride. Thiss why we are in the darn toilet bowl.
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Good job. Common sense is not that common.
GO VOLS!
 
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daj2576 said:
While I try to respect everyone's opinion, the philosophy that I see being articulated in threads such as these is actually disappointing on a much larger scale.

This idea that success comes from desiring your competition to fail is indicative of a much larger problem within our society. What meaning does success or a championship have if gaining it required no sacrifice or adversity? Winning a championship because your competition is terrible is akin to getting a trophy for participation. You showed up and were rewarded. Not only is that boring but it is totally meaningless.

Ask yourself why you want UT to be successful on the field, if the crystal ball had no meaning? It has meaning because it required winning against other teams who were capable or even superior.

Would beating Bama next year with Saban as coach have more meaning than Saban leaving, the program getting hit with NCAA sanctions and playing all walk on freshmen? The only victory of those two options is the first choice. The second is a consolation prize that looks like a victory.

I want UT to contend again as much as anyone else on this board, but I don't want it to happen by wanting our opponents to have their legs cut out from under them. I want it to happen by beating everyone at their prime.

To paraphrase what someone else astutely said: "do you want to be the heavyweight champion or the world, or be the toughest 35 year old man in the third grade?"

Meaningless victories will never be remembered. A championship is just a guarantee that you will be remembered for being the best for that singular moment in time. If you lower the standards to achieve that, others could claim the same title of champion.
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+agazillion
 
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BaldBiker said:
As much as I hate Bama......I hate ND more. The stinking unwarrented hype and hoopla thrown out there every single year over that POS school sickens me. I'm from the south...am not Catholic......and could give two Sh**s about effing Knute Rockne!

There I said it.
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What it boils down to is love em or hate em, the NC needs to reside in the SEC. Period, end of conversation. If you pull for ND over Bama cause you hate Bama, you just don't get it. Go pull for NIU, cause that is where you want to be (not you baldy, just using your post as an example).
 
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TNGlen said:
What it boils down to is love em or hate em, the NC needs to reside in the SEC. Period, end of conversation. If you pull for ND over Bama cause you hate Bama, you just don't get it. Go pull for NIU, cause that is where you want to be (not you baldy, just using your post as an example).
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No offense taken Glen. I agree with you. I hate Bama as well as Ga, Fl, and any other SEC school, because they are our rivals. But, an SEC school playing a school outside of our conference.....I want them to beat the living snot out of them. Why? Because I don't want ANY school in ANY other conference thinking they can win against the SEC.

When TN does rise back to the top, I want it to be by beating the best of the best, which means our own conference.
 
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TNGlen said:
What it boils down to is love em or hate em, the NC needs to reside in the SEC. Period, end of conversation. If you pull for ND over Bama cause you hate Bama, you just don't get it. Go pull for NIU, cause that is where you want to be (not you baldy, just using your post as an example).
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Nope....have no idea what or where that is.

I get your point but I can not, will not pull for bama.
 
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It's simple. You want a conference that loses their high-profile non-conference games (i.e., bowl games)? Then what you're really saying is that you want a weaker conference.

A weaker conference equals less national media exposure and fewer SEC players going on to the NFL -- both of which will lead to fewer quality recruits that will consider coming to SEC schools (and that includes UT). In a weaker SEC, fewer teams will be eligible to play in bowl games and that means less bowl revenue for all SEC schools' athletic departments (and that includes UT). Less revenue means inferior facilities, a smaller budget for recruiting and higher costs to the fans to offset the shortfall. So get ready to pay more money for the privilege of watching an inferior brand of football. And, oh by the way, you know that scholarship you were hoping your daughter would get to play softball at UT? Forget about it.

And even if a weaker SEC improves the chances for the Vols to win more games and conference championships, we will not be ready to face tougher non-conference competition, so forget any hope for any future national titles.

This is so simple that it's astounding any SEC fan would ever willingly hope for a weaker SEC. And I've had Vol fans say they don't want a weak conference -- they just want all of our conference rivals to lose every game they play. And you know what? As a Vol fan, I can certainly understand that sentiment. We all can. It's just too bad that you can't have one without the other. Ultimately, our SEC rivals losing bunches of games, while satisifying on an emotional level, is ultimately bad for Tennessee. This simply cannot be disputed.
 
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Hacksaw said:
It's simple. You want a conference that loses their high-profile non-conference games (i.e., bowl games)? Then what you're really saying is that you want a weaker conference.

A weaker conference equals less national media exposure and fewer SEC players going on to the NFL -- both of which will lead to fewer quality recruits that will consider coming to SEC schools (and that includes UT). In a weaker SEC, fewer teams will be eligible to play in bowl games and that means less bowl revenue for all SEC schools' athletic departments (and that includes UT). Less revenue means inferior facilities, a smaller budget for recruiting and higher costs to the fans to offset the shortfall. So get ready to pay more money for the privilege of watching an inferior brand of football. And, oh by the way, you know that scholarship you were hoping your daughter would get to play softball at UT? Forget about it.

And even if a weaker SEC improves the chances for the Vols to win more games and conference championships, we will not be ready to face tougher non-conference competition, so forget any hope for any future national titles.

This is so simple that it's astounding any SEC fan would ever willingly hope for a weaker SEC. And I've had Vol fans say they don't want a weak conference -- they just want all of our conference rivals to lose every game they play. And you know what? As a Vol fan, I can certainly understand that sentiment. We all can. It's just too bad that you can't have one without the other. Ultimately, our SEC rivals losing bunches of games, while satisifying on an emotional level, is ultimately bad for Tennessee. This simply cannot be disputed.
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Thank you, Hacksaw
 
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