The eternal QB debate (merged)

#752
#752
utvawl said:
Lane has to be cussing CPF every night for leaving the cupboard bare at quarterback. He is doing the best he can do with what we have. Coleman didn't want to fight for the job period. I am extremely worried about Auburn and hope we can regroup our thinning lines and step up to victory.
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Let's not forget that CPF was recruiting for a different offense, not Kiffin's. Coleman and Boyd could be in that cupboard if Kiffin wanted. Both, in my opinion, are better than Crompton. Kiffin wouldn't play Vick if he didn't fit the system. IMO, he is playing Crompton and sitting NS for recruiting purposes. A "sufficient" NS may keep a QB from signing if he thought he might not start as a freshman.
 
#753
#753
Great Post. Crompton tries hard. The thing that hurts him is he makes comments after the game that get under everybody's skin. The reason for that is because he plays poor, but he plays as well as he can, so his comments are magnified because of his play. I am sure Crompton is just a regular guy, but I think he is very competitive. He has the athletic ability and the heart, but just not the decision making skills.
 
#755
#755
GoBigOrange98 said:
I dont understand it the kid is trying its not like he skips practice and doesn't study film. He is in his 4th system in 5 years. I would like to hear some insight into his play from somebody tht actually has experience coaching. Just cause you can score 72 points on PS3 NCAA Football doesn't make you a coach!
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Have you heard Gary Danielson, I don't agee with that guy all the time, but I think he is truthful in what he says. A lot of coaches spin it.
 
#756
#756
With all of the people clamoring for a change to NS, I thought the decision belong to 1 or more people on this Board.
 
#757
#757
Has anyone thought for a second that the pressure Crompton feels is not caused by the defense he is against but our fans? How would you like to be under a 100,000 person microscope each week, knowing if you do not play perfect you will be getting booed, people on message boards blasting your every move. Is it too hard to fathom that perhaps he does so well in practice is there are no boo birds around?

It is so easy to sit in your chair and call someone names and critique their ever move, how would you like to have has many critics and bosses overlooking you everyday that JC has. No matter what time they arrive from a road game JC is at church the next day, he loves being a VOL, is it too much to ask that the fans support him next week against the Tigers and take some pressure off of him.
 
#760
#760
It's on the coach's shoulders. I respect Crompton for what he has been through. He does work his butt off and studies film. He has the physical tools. He doesn't have it between the ears. The kid makes bad decisions. I don't see that changing and the coaching staff has to realize that. I love the VOLS and will support them til the day I die but the coach has to realize JC lacks in the ability to make good decisions which is vital to the QB position.
 
#762
#762
volfan24 said:
It's on the coach's shoulders. I respect Crompton for what he has been through. He does work his butt off and studies film. He has the physical tools. He doesn't have it between the ears. The kid makes bad decisions. I don't see that changing and the coaching staff has to realize that. I love the VOLS and will support them til the day I die but the coach has to realize JC lacks in the ability to make good decisions which is vital to the QB position.
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How is it on the coach's shoulders? He inherited an untenable QB situation. He has no option but to play someone. I don't understand why we're staying with this, but this debacle rests squarely on the plate of CBS' newest former coach commentator.
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#763
#763
VolsRule said:
He got a full scholarship to play better than this.
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What about the other players who are getting a full scholarship and never see the field? Just because they have earned the starting position you cannot hold them to a higher standard because of a scholarship vs someone with the same scholarship who is not even playing.
 
#764
#764
GmanTN said:
Has anyone thought for a second that the pressure Crompton feels is not caused by the defense he is against but our fans? How would you like to be under a 100,000 person microscope each week, knowing if you do not play perfect you will be getting booed, people on message boards blasting your every move. Is it too hard to fathom that perhaps he does so well in practice is there are no boo birds around?

It is so easy to sit in your chair and call someone names and critique their ever move, how would you like to have has many critics and bosses overlooking you everyday that JC has. No matter what time they arrive from a road game JC is at church the next day, he loves being a VOL, is it too much to ask that the fans support him next week against the Tigers and take some pressure off of him.
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Well, see the thing is... a bunch of Vol fans are flawless in their performance on the job. And its a good thing, because these Vol fans have very exciting jobs, in which 100k people watch their every move, dissect their every decision, and devote enormous amounts of time and emotional energy towards the success at such job.

If Crompton could perform at the same level these fans do in their Jiffylube, Quality Inn call center and rest stop janitorial duties, dang, we'd be in good shape.
 
#765
#765
BigPapaVol said:
How is it on the coach's shoulders? He inherited an untenable QB situation. He has no option but to play someone. I don't understand why we're staying with this, but this debacle rests squarely on the plate of CBS' newest former coach commentator.
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I think he means it is on the coach's shoulders whether he plays Crompton or Stephens.
 
#766
#766
VolsRule said:
He got a full scholarship to play better than this.
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I was wondering when the first negative reply would show up. Jim Bob Cooter got a full scholarship, and all he did was hold a clipboard. Have you ever fallen short of someone's expectations? I know I have.
 
#767
#767
Well said. As much as we've hated Crompton in the moments of his miscues and what not, you have to admire his courage. He might not be the brightest QB, best decision maker, or even the best at talking to the media but he keeps pushing through and that shows character. Time will heal all of the bad feelings towards him and we will remember him as a guy who waited his turn, gave his all for Tennessee, and never complained despite difficult coaching changes throughout his career. A lot of guys rated as high as him coming out of high school would have quit or made a scene after all the criticism by now, but he hasn't. He might believe he is better than he is but at thats not always a bad thing, at least he keeps working and isn't a douchey egomaniac.
 
#768
#768
BigPapaVol said:
How is it on the coach's shoulders? He inherited an untenable QB situation. He has no option but to play someone. I don't understand why we're staying with this, but this debacle rests squarely on the plate of CBS' newest former coach commentator.
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+1

Crompton's a good guy and he tries. It isn't his fault he can't play at this level. And anybody laying this on Kiffin is being very shortsighted. It's Fulmer's fault he is playing at a Div. I university that he has no business playing for.

Kiffin is the guy in charge, and he knows better than any of us who should and shouldn't be playing. I bet if he starts Stephens and he sucks just as bad than people will be calling for Crompton to come back in...and then we are back to the situation we were in last year which yielded us a 5-7 season.

For better or worse, Crompton is our guy. If anybody is at fault here, it's Fulmer.
 
#769
#769
tennesseefan31 said:
he didnt play too bad against ohio jeezus get off his back already.... it is people who call for players heads that really make me mad
1. Playing QB is VERY VERY difficult take it from someone who has played the position
2. If I was Crompton it would be hard to even continue to practice after last year. He has taken a beating, verbally and physically
3. Obviously Crompton is better than Stephens. Kiffin took our most expierenced player (Mcneil) and gave the job to a former walk on because he beat him out. I trust Kiffin to play the best players

So give him a break. I know he is not a very good QB, but its not easy and if you think you could do better go try out. But seriously, GET OFF HIS BACK!!!!!!!
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Hey "GUY" it's not like we are calling him and saying this, and well he sucks so get over it. BOOOOOOO CROMPTON Worst QB in College football. We would be a better team if we had the guy from Ohio at QB for us.....
 
#770
#770
csheaton said:
Well said. As much as we've hated Crompton in the moments of his miscues and what not, you have to admire his courage. He might not be the brightest QB, best decision maker, or even the best at talking to the media but he keeps pushing through and that shows character. Time will heal all of the bad feelings towards him and we will remember him as a guy who waited his turn, gave his all for Tennessee, and never complained despite difficult coaching changes throughout his career. A lot of guys rated as high as him coming out of high school would have quit or made a scene after all the criticism by now, but he hasn't. He might believe he is better than he is but at thats not always a bad thing, at least he keeps working and isn't a douchey egomaniac.
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Exactly.

He has greater character to the nth degree over those who verbally accost him and his father.

There is a difference between being disappointed in his play and stooping to the level of dishing out personal insults in public.
 
#771
#771
Great post. Couldn't agree more. He did show a little improvement and if he can take the positives and build on them, he will be OK. Never great, but OK.
 
#772
#772
UTVOLSGURU said:
I am sick and freaking tired of seeing Lane Kiffin not pull Crompton during a game, well hello, we were playing Ohio last night, the score should have been somewhere, oh I don't know, maybe along the lines of 60-3 or so. Now I am not putting all my blame on Crompton, the kickoff team had a miscue, well really that's about it, so yes, pretty much all the blame is on Crompton but really, actually Kiffin. This crap has gone way too far, Kiffin needs to grow a pair and sit down with Crompton and tell him, look kid, your just not qb material, let Crompton play a little TE or a little WR just a decoy or something, he is not college football qb material, nor has he ever been, it's time to live on the wild side Kiffin, I know it sounds extreme but damnit, start mixing this crap up, put in Stephens, and also run the Wildcat offense like last night with either Gerald Jones Qb'ing or Eric Berry.

Enough is enough, and Kiffin better grow a pair and I mean quick or more fans are going to start calling for his head, in fact some already are. I mean I don't know, did Crompton's dad give the University trillions of dollars, where nothing can be done here? Because obviously, it just nobody has the balls to say otherwise, well Kiffin better wisen up or Auburn will come into Knoxville, pick off Crapton several times, and win big.
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Thankfully, this is the last I will ever see from you.

If you can't understand the difference between your and you're, I can't expect you to understand football. Doing things just to do them is no way to win games.
 
#773
#773
RICK0380 said:
Hey "GUY" it's not like we are calling him and saying this, and well he sucks so get over it. BOOOOOOO CROMPTON Worst QB in College football. We would be a better team if we had the guy from Ohio at QB for us.....
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But we don't.
 
#775
#775
GmanTN said:
Has anyone thought for a second that the pressure Crompton feels is not caused by the defense he is against but our fans? How would you like to be under a 100,000 person microscope each week, knowing if you do not play perfect you will be getting booed, people on message boards blasting your every move. Is it too hard to fathom that perhaps he does so well in practice is there are no boo birds around?

It is so easy to sit in your chair and call someone names and critique their ever move, how would you like to have has many critics and bosses overlooking you everyday that JC has. No matter what time they arrive from a road game JC is at church the next day, he loves being a VOL, is it too much to ask that the fans support him next week against the Tigers and take some pressure off of him.
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:clapping: :good!:
 
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