The eternal QB debate (merged)

#726
#726
CLK must have a pair of biguns to keep doing what he is doing..I don't like what I see and hear in a game, but I trust CLK has a plan that I know nothing about..with CPF I felt bad all week long but with CLK I am feeling better by Sunday evening because no one will out work him and he is always doing something...i.e. calling all of florida's recruits last week after florida game. I wonder what he will do this week?
 
#727
#727
The_Orange_Pearl said:
I feel bad knocking a fellow human being so badly but he isn't. A real fan would request to sit on the bench or leave the team. He isn't doing any good for the team. This really does sound horrible but it's true. He is being selfish by putting himself on the field.

Watching him play makes me want to vomit. I've given him the benefit of the doubt over and over again but this is too much. He is single handedly keeping Ohio in the game.
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You are the typical bandwagon fan, there is a part of me that would love to see Crompton do it and NS comes in and sucks worse so that you and the rest of the armchair QB coaches could slit your wrists and be gone.
 
#728
#728
UTVOLSGURU said:
I have no hangover, OHIO blows, they should have never scored more than 10 points last night, but yet, playing an inferior team Crapton is still throwing picks because he can't get his head out of ass and stop throwing into damn thick coverage
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They're so bad that....

they lead Ohio State last year until the wee part of the 4th quarter.

If you don't like it and it vexes you so much, you need to think about yourself and your health. Just don't watch it. Close your eyes and go to your happy place until you know its going to be (1) a run play or (2) one of the few successful passes.

If, 4 games in you're calling for Lane's head (or other people are) then you guys really need a reality check. As my mamaw would say "You can't get blood out of a turnip."

REALITY IS that this team is at best a 7-win team. Most people understand that by now. Take off the orange colored sunglasses and realize that changing QBs isn't likely to solve that.
 
#730
#730
Did anybody else besides me notice Crompton went the wrong way on handoffs twice? Once when he had to roll out and got a yard maybe after the botched play and then once late in the fourth quarter when he managed to make up for it and get to ball to Brown (I think)?
 
#731
#731
Crompton went 17 for 34 for 222 yards with 2 TDs and 1 INT.......and UT won the game

does anyone seriously think there is any chance he gets benched? Get serious, people............
 
#732
#732
Not a Crompton fan by any means, but we obviously don't have better. Ya'll must not be old enough to remember Jeff Francis or Randy Sanders. I would be semi-happy with him if he did absolutely nothing fantastic but NOT turn the ball over. I know...if if's and but's were candy and nuts...
 
#733
#733
I watched the game last night on ppv, and while there were times that Crompton played like he usually does, the blame for the offensive woes shouldn't fall completely on him (for last night's game).

Our recievers may not be as clueless as JC, but they are close. D. Moore was freaking lost, Nuke ran a couple of wrong routes, and we had a number catchable passes that were not caught...

Is G. Jones still hurt? If not, then I have no idea why he is not in there as the main target. He was serviceable the last two years. D. Moore looked like Kenny O'Neal reincarnated. Brandon Warren looked pretty decent, besides one drop.

The truth is that while Crompton is bad, so are our recievers at the moment. It didn't help that we didn't have Hancock, who seems to be our most reliable wide out this year. Luke Stocker makes Austin Rogers look like a catching machine.

We also don't have any playmakers. Of course, one of the freshmen may step up and I believe they have the talent to do so, but they haven't yet.
 
#734
#734
Ashevolle said:
Crompton went 17 for 34 for 222 yards with 2 TDs and 1 INT.......and UT won the game

does anyone seriously think there is any chance he gets benched? Get serious, people............
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Without the 4 dropped passes in the 1st half, he's 21-34 with no INTs. No way he gets benched based on last night's performance.
 
#735
#735
perico said:
I watched the game last night on ppv, and while there were times that Crompton played like he usually does, the blame for the offensive woes shouldn't fall completely on him (for last night's game).

Our recievers may not be as clueless as JC, but they are close. D. Moore was freaking lost, Nuke ran a couple of wrong routes, and we had a number catchable passes that were not caught...

Is G. Jones still hurt? If not, then I have no idea why he is not in there as the main target. He was serviceable the last two years. D. Moore looked like Kenny O'Neal reincarnated. Brandon Warren looked pretty decent, besides one drop.

The truth is that while Crompton is bad, so are our recievers at the moment. It didn't help that we didn't have Hancock, who seems to be our most reliable wide out this year. Luke Stocker makes Austin Rogers look like a catching machine.

We also don't have any playmakers. Of course, one of the freshmen may step up and I believe they have the talent to do so, but they haven't yet.
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Throwing over their heads , under throwing, and fumbling instead of throwing it away. You're right it is the wideouts fault. We might as well run single recv. pass plays and keep the rest in to block or play defense after he throws a int. Man up! It is football not chess , call it like it is ,Crompton needs to be benched.
 
#736
#736
perico said:
I watched the game last night on ppv, and while there were times that Crompton played like he usually does, the blame for the offensive woes shouldn't fall completely on him (for last night's game).

Our recievers may not be as clueless as JC, but they are close. D. Moore was freaking lost, Nuke ran a couple of wrong routes, and we had a number catchable passes that were not caught...

Is G. Jones still hurt? If not, then I have no idea why he is not in there as the main target. He was serviceable the last two years. D. Moore looked like Kenny O'Neal reincarnated. Brandon Warren looked pretty decent, besides one drop.

The truth is that while Crompton is bad, so are our recievers at the moment. It didn't help that we didn't have Hancock, who seems to be our most reliable wide out this year. Luke Stocker makes Austin Rogers look like a catching machine.

We also don't have any playmakers. Of course, one of the freshmen may step up and I believe they have the talent to do so, but they haven't yet.
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BEST POST IN THIS THREAD.... I watched the game twice now and am really clueless as to why people are bashing Crompton's performance against Ohio (I understand why they are bashing in general, but not this particular game). Even the announcers acknowledged that there were at least 3 or 4 passes that should have been completed for 75 more yards or so... Hypothetically speaking, if we add that to his numbers so that he was 21 out of 34 for 300 yards, 2 TD's and 1 INT then I'd say he had a dang good game...

Crompton is going to be just fine, I know it sounds crazy, but I bet he does a good job this saturday.
 
#737
#737
UTVOLSGURU said:
What I am thinking is, who in their damn right mind thinks that Crompton still needs to be starting every ballgame, Crompton is a freaking hysterical Joke
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Every freaking amateur armchair QB loves the second string QB because it is the simplistic answer. CLK doesn't need courage to change QBs. He would do it in a heart beat is he thought Stephens would be better. He sure didn't show it last year.

I will take the coach's decision over a hysterical babbler any day.
 
#738
#738
perico said:
I watched the game last night on ppv, and while there were times that Crompton played like he usually does, the blame for the offensive woes shouldn't fall completely on him (for last night's game).

Our recievers may not be as clueless as JC, but they are close. D. Moore was freaking lost, Nuke ran a couple of wrong routes, and we had a number catchable passes that were not caught...

Is G. Jones still hurt? If not, then I have no idea why he is not in there as the main target. He was serviceable the last two years. D. Moore looked like Kenny O'Neal reincarnated. Brandon Warren looked pretty decent, besides one drop.

The truth is that while Crompton is bad, so are our recievers at the moment. It didn't help that we didn't have Hancock, who seems to be our most reliable wide out this year. Luke Stocker makes Austin Rogers look like a catching machine.

We also don't have any playmakers. Of course, one of the freshmen may step up and I believe they have the talent to do so, but they haven't yet.
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I have to give you your propers.......I have seen most of the avatars on this site and yours is by far the best :eek:lol:
 
#739
#739
Do what? Why in the world would you move a kid from QB to TE he's never played the position before and he is a fifth year senior that is idiocracy. Secondly yea i agree crompton is a horrible QB, can't see the open receiver even if he was painted yellow, but come on. Saying lane kiffin doesn't have any balls cuz he is actually trying to have some sort of continuity. I admit crompton is horrible, but in reality Stephens is not all that much better stephens lost to WYOMING! at least crompton won the game. I'm not saying stephens should never play, but after you said all season the person who wins the job we are gonna ride with whoever wins the cometition, and then turning away from him after four games? what would that say to recruits? QB's are different than any other position. and Kiffin doesn't have any balls? Have you ever listened to any of his quotes he went after the national champs on his first day on the job that whole rant was obsurd to me.
 
#740
#740
.....from me. It's apparent that JC doesn't have the skills necessary to be a winning QB in the SEC, but the guy does have courage. How many of us could walk onto a football field knowing that your own fans will boo you before the day is over. It takes courage to try to compete when everything is going against you. If Kiffin wants to continue playing Crompton, then blame Kiffin. It's up to the coach to make a change, not up to the QB to take himself out of the game, unless he's injured. If the fans would show more support for Crompton from now on, he just might get better. If not, so be it.
 
#742
#742
wolfe said:
.....from me. It's apparent that JC doesn't have the skills necessary to be a winning QB in the SEC, but the guy does have courage. How many of us could walk onto a football field knowing that your own fans will boo you before the day is over. It takes courage to try to compete when everything is going against you. If Kiffin wants to continue playing Crompton, then blame Kiffin. It's up to the coach to make a change, not up to the QB to take himself out of the game, unless he's injured. If the fans would show more support for Crompton from now on, he just might get better. If not, so be it.
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:clapping:
 
#743
#743
I tried to watch the game and be as objective as I could. I watched JC's passes and the WR's catches. I saw both bad decisions/throws from JC and there were some dropped passes that should have been caught. From my view, JC did do more "wrong" than the WR's, especially when the entire OL went left and he goes right..... I mean c'mon, and the overthrow of a wide open receiver for a walk-in TD. Sometimes all I can do is just shake my head in disbelief.
 
#744
#744
checkerboard_charly said:
Crazy to see Tee having only 55% completion with all the success he had. Our D was a BEAST then.
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Martin's completion % in 1999 is very decieving to say the least. He couldn't raise his arms the day we played Auburn that year because he was in so much pain. Then he took that vicious hit from Alex Brown against Florida that knocked all his front teeth out from having his face jammed into the television camera.

After Jamal basically gave up for fear of injury, Tee and Travis Henry carried us on their shoulders against Bama and UGA, who were both ranked in the top 10.

The 99 game against Bama was one of the best performances I've ever seen a UT qb have. We went into Tuscaloosa and they had no answer to Tee. Remember that it was the Bama team ended up in the Top 5 after whipping Florida by close to 30 points in the SEC championship game.

The stats don't show it, but Martin was unstoppable that game and made Bama's defense look foolish.

We were also in the first year of Randy Sanders as our OC, and Martin still was All SEC.
 
#745
#745
If people are calling for Kiffins head, i've never heard them. I think you may be alone on that one. But, if people are they are idiots and know nothing about the college game of football. the way he has went about recruiting, drawing attention to himself instead of on a 5-6 team, and his gameplan offensivly and defensivly against florida were all genius. Besides you can't judge a guy after only one year on the job he doesn't even have half of the players he needs.i will ride with coach kiff any day.
 
#746
#746
Crompton is the worst QB I have ever seen.

With that said, I completely respect Crompton as a person. He works his butt off and for the past two years he's taken a lot of crap from fans. A lot of people in his position would just quit, but he stays the course...you gotta respect that in a person. On top of that, he never complains.
 
#747
#747
KCVolLaw said:
What are you trying to get at? For 2 years Stephens has had a fair chance to win this starting job. He didn't beat out Crompton with two different staffs. He could certainly just quit the team but people who can't beat out the starting QB are called backups.
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Crompton is a backup for 90% of D1 teams. How sad is that for us?
 
#748
#748
volroadwarrior said:
Every freaking amateur armchair QB loves the second string QB because it is the simplistic answer. CLK doesn't need courage to change QBs. He would do it in a heart beat is he thought Stephens would be better. He sure didn't show it last year.

I will take the coach's decision over a hysterical babbler any day.
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Thank you! couldn't have said it any better myself!:thumbsup:
 
#749
#749
I dont understand it the kid is trying its not like he skips practice and doesn't study film. He is in his 4th system in 5 years. I would like to hear some insight into his play from somebody tht actually has experience coaching. Just cause you can score 72 points on PS3 NCAA Football doesn't make you a coach!
 
#750
#750
wolfe said:
.....from me. It's apparent that JC doesn't have the skills necessary to be a winning QB in the SEC, but the guy does have courage. How many of us could walk onto a football field knowing that your own fans will boo you before the day is over. It takes courage to try to compete when everything is going against you. If Kiffin wants to continue playing Crompton, then blame Kiffin. It's up to the coach to make a change, not up to the QB to take himself out of the game, unless he's injured. If the fans would show more support for Crompton from now on, he just might get better. If not, so be it.
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Well said, great post.
 
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