The George Floyd Monument

[Rickyvol77]

You're fighting a loosing battle, just look at all the drug dealers locked away in prison.

So?

 

[utvolpj]

Drug dealing is a violent crime that causes more violent crimes exponentially

The act of selling a product to another is not violent and should not be a crime

 

[utvolpj]

I’m sure if drugs were legal there would be a big dip in murders, robberies, etc that are in large part directly related to drugs. NOT.

Data says that is correct. Drug abuse would also go down

 

[Rickyvol77]

You understand there's a space between militarized enforcement and shooting up in a daycare right? Drug use should not be a crime that ruins someone's life. It is currently that way because there's so much more money in that approach

Drug use itself ruins peoples lives which would be fine if it was just personal usage in their house. But the violent crimes that fllllws drugs around is what the dangerous part is. Not to mention the huge financial drain on society

 

[C-south]

Data says that is correct. Drug abuse would also go down

We could just legalize murder, robbery, rape, and all crime and live in a utopia.

 

[utvolpj]

Drug use itself ruins peoples lives which would be fine if it was just personal usage in their house. But the violent crimes that fllllws drugs around is what the dangerous part is. Not to mention the huge financial drain on society

Actually a drug user can get clean and then lead a life where that doesn't follow them around. Licking then up did the opposite and creates a lifetime of hardship

Violent crime followed because it has been made an illegal act and allows people to prey on others.

 

[utvolpj]

We could just legalize murder, robbery, rape, and all crime and live in a utopia.

Those listed actually have a victim.

 

[C-south]

Those listed actually have a victim.

Have you ever fostered a kid addicted to drugs?

 

[midnight orange]

I think so. It’s not like we’re talking about cops breaking down the doors of someone that stole candy bars.

Stealing candy bars is criminal. Possessing and or selling unapproved “naughty” substances wouldn’t and shouldn’t be in a free society.

 

[utvolpj]

Have you ever fostered a kid addicted to drugs?

Irrelevant. Where have I ever advocated for kids to take drugs?

 

[Orangeburst]

Stealing candy bars is criminal. Possessing and or selling unapproved “naughty” substances wouldn’t and shouldn’t be in a free society.

Especially Paydays, Almond Joys and Zeros. Butterfingers should be free.

 

[C-south]

Irrelevant. Where have I ever advocated for kids to take drugs?

A 2 week old doesn’t take drugs, their parents do. Luckily there are laws that hold them accountable.

 

[Rickyvol77]

The act of selling a product to another is not violent and should not be a crime

When you use firearms to sell said product and threaten others and people steal and rob to buy your product it is. Violence is intermixed at every level of drug dealing

 

[Rickyvol77]

Data says that is correct. Drug abuse would also go down

False

 

[utvolpj]

A 2 week old doesn’t take drugs, their parents do. Luckily there are laws that hold them accountable.

can also happen with alcohol yet...

 

[utvolpj]

When you use firearms to sell said product and threaten others and people steal and rob to buy your product it is. Violence is intermixed at every level of drug dealing

That's a different act altogether. When you remove the criminality of act 1 then act 2 goes away as well

 

[hog88]

Read post 469. It was a good conversation until we start going there. There is a lot I agree with and a lot I don’t on your side. My point is you nor I know HOW to get to a better solution.

I do. Legalize all drugs and moral crimes.

 

[1vol8]

Especially Paydays, Almond Joys and Zeros. Butterfingers should be free.

I think butterfingers are good AF!

 

[hog88]

I’m sure if drugs were legal there would be a big dip in murders, robberies, etc that are in large part directly related to drugs. NOT.

Did crimes related to illegal booze go down after prohibition?

 

[hog88]

This is BS.

It not BS. I’ve witnessed it myself and have spoken to the chief, he knows exactly what’s going on.

 

[hog88]

A 2 week old doesn’t take drugs, their parents do. Luckily there are laws that hold them accountable.

Yet those laws don’t stop them.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

I’m sure if drugs were legal there would be a big dip in murders, robberies, etc that are in large part directly related to drugs. NOT.

I think we all recall the continued wave of alcohol related murders after prohibition was repealed. Legend has it they're still shooting each other over Canadian whiskey and bathtub hooch.

 

[hog88]

When you use firearms to sell said product and threaten others and people steal and rob to buy your product it is. Violence is intermixed at every level of drug dealing

Because of the immense amount of money.

 

[1vol8]

I do. Legalize all drugs and moral crimes.

You obviously have no idea about what these drugs to your body nor how fragile the next generation is.

 

[Orangeburst]

Mexico decriminalizes recreational use of cannabis - CNN

Just today...The hard drugs will never be, or should never be legalized, so will always have a criminal aspect. You just cannot legalize and make accessible some things...for the benefit of society as a whole.