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#6,403
NYYVol said:
Guys today are robotic.
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I agree. Theres nobody to really relate to, I think. Phil's smile and handshakes, and guys like Boo and Bubba, but overall I think I can relate more to the Euro's, as they're guys, not country club sponsor spokesmen.
 
#6,405
#6,405
JTrainDavis said:
I agree. Theres nobody to really relate to, I think. Phil's smile and handshakes, and guys like Boo and Bubba, but overall I think I can relate more to the Euro's, as they're guys, not country club sponsor spokesmen.
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And they can play on just about any track you put them on. I have a special place in my heart for the guys who can make the shots and work the ball. Of course most equipment today doesn't allow it.
 
#6,406
#6,406
NYYVol said:
And they can play on just about any track you put them on. I have a special place in my heart for the guys who can make the shots and work the ball. Of course most equipment today doesn't allow it.
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Agree...I can't remember the exact phrase, but the Apache Pilot skip gave a laundry list of reasons Mickelson sucks at the British Open...and that holds true for about everyone we've got to throw out there.
 
#6,409
#6,409
92 today..
48 on the front and 42 two on the back....

4 pars on the back, and could have shot 40, but doubled 18, a par five after putting 3rd shot into a green side bunker, then 3 putting...

Was pretty happy with the back until 18..
 
#6,410
#6,410
vol_in_il said:
92 today..
48 on the front and 42 two on the back....

4 pars on the back, and could have shot 40, but doubled 18, a par five after putting 3rd shot into a green side bunker, then 3 putting...

Was pretty happy with the back until 18..
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Math is apparently penal on Chicago courses.
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#6,411
#6,411
That looks like my scoring system.

No matter how bad it is, always get in under 100.
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#6,412
#6,412
JTrainDavis said:
I agree. Theres nobody to really relate to, I think. Phil's smile and handshakes, and guys like Boo and Bubba, but overall I think I can relate more to the Euro's, as they're guys, not country club sponsor spokesmen.
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Could not possibly agree more. Guys like Poulter (yeah, I know) and McDowell at least have some personality and it seems to mean something to them more than depositing another 5th place check for $150,000.

I remember reading an interview with Greg Norman a few years back, in which he said that a young Seve would never be able to make it in the modern game, because you CAN'T work the ball with the modern equipment the way you could with balata balls. American golf has come down to this: hit it long, straight and high, with pretty much zero room for creativity and shotmaking. But there's more than one way to play the game, and nobody exemplified that more than Seve.
 
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#6,413
Course designers carry more blame for the bomb and gouge approach than club manufacturers.
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#6,414
DowntownVol said:
Could not possibly agree more. Guys like Poulter (yeah, I know) and McDowell at least have some personality and it seems to mean something to them more than depositing another 5th place check for $150,000.

I remember reading an interview with Greg Norman a few years back, in which he said that a young Seve would never be able to make it in the modern game, because you CAN'T work the ball with the modern equipment the way you could with balata balls. American golf has come down to this: hit it long, straight and high, with pretty much zero room for creativity and shotmaking. But there's more than one way to play the game, and nobody exemplified that more than Seve.
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Have you seen Bubba play? He don't know what a straight shot is & uses up to date technology. Seve was just an artist at getting out of trouble & seemed to be a charismatic guy. I use to think Freddy & Nicklaus were cool guys until I met them & they were just pricks. You can almost see it in Jack whenever he speaks though. You hear a lot of the same about Phil from his peers.
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#6,416
BigPapaVol said:
The ball is top changer.
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Disagree. Course designers, esp Rees Jones, have made courses longer and tighter forcing the bomb and gouge style of play. Then the PGA's refusal to make bunkers, esp. greenside, actual penalties have taken most strategy out of going for the green in 2 on every par 5.
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#6,420
#6,420
shortgameVol said:
Playes now are just as good, actually might be a little better. Just don't have the charisma and inner fortitude as the Azinger bunch
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I love the game of golf so that might be why, but I'm rarely having to ask myself "Who's that guy". These guys are good. Insanely good. Part of it is the ball, part of it is the clubs, but the biggest part is skill. These guys can stripe it, time after time. They're just stuck in the "Tiger Era", so they don't get the media love like so many shared in the 80s and 90s.
 
#6,421
#6,421
a question for VN. As most know (thanks hman), I've been deployed since January. I've swung some irons a few times and even hit into a net a couple of times, but I've been quite busy during the day and haven't been able to swing much. With all this deployment moolah I'm gonna have when I get back, I want to completely overhaul my set, minus my putter. New driver, new hybrid, new irons new wedges. And I'm going all out and getting custom fit. Obviously, I want to get set up immediately, but would it be better to play for a couple weeks, maybe even months and find my swing again, or would I be better off starting from scratch with a custom set? I'll add that I'm not too picky, but I've always like the feel of a Titleist driver in my hands over anything else. TaylorMades and Callaways just don't have that feel for me. It's probably all mental, but it's there. I could go for a Cobra driver if it felt right. As for irons, I'm mostly going to look into Pings, Titleists, Mizunos or some of the forged Cobras if I can still find them. I hit them before I left and loved them. I'd be up for some other brands, but those are what always feel the most comfortable to me. As for wedges, I'm either going to stick with Cleveland or go back to Vokeys, not really sure yet. Just looking for advice on how/when I should go about getting my new set. Thanks in advance.
 
#6,422
#6,422
volfanbill said:
a question for VN. As most know (thanks hman), I've been deployed since January. I've swung some irons a few times and even hit into a net a couple of times, but I've been quite busy during the day and haven't been able to swing much. With all this deployment moolah I'm gonna have when I get back, I want to completely overhaul my set, minus my putter. New driver, new hybrid, new irons new wedges. And I'm going all out and getting custom fit. Obviously, I want to get set up immediately, but would it be better to play for a couple weeks, maybe even months and find my swing again, or would I be better off starting from scratch with a custom set? I'll add that I'm not too picky, but I've always like the feel of a Titleist driver in my hands over anything else. TaylorMades and Callaways just don't have that feel for me. It's probably all mental, but it's there. I could go for a Cobra driver if it felt right. As for irons, I'm mostly going to look into Pings, Titleists, Mizunos or some of the forged Cobras if I can still find them. I hit them before I left and loved them. I'd be up for some other brands, but those are what always feel the most comfortable to me. As for wedges, I'm either going to stick with Cleveland or go back to Vokeys, not really sure yet. Just looking for advice on how/when I should go about getting my new set. Thanks in advance.
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Get fitted and buy them as soon as you get back. Make sure you get on a launch monitor so you can get the right shaft and loft combination for your swing, clubhead speed and spin rate. It won't matter if you haven't played for awhile.
 
#6,423
#6,423
shortgameVol said:
Get fitted and buy them as soon as you get back. Make sure you get on a launch monitor so you can get the right shaft and loft combination for your swing, clubhead speed and spin rate. It won't matter if you haven't played for awhile.
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You really think so? Not saying you're wrong, but I've always taken the opposite approach when using a launch monitor. I want to be hitting the ball pretty well before I pay any attention to the data.
 
#6,424
#6,424
GAVol said:
You really think so? Not saying you're wrong, but I've always taken the opposite approach when using a launch monitor. I want to be hitting the ball pretty well before I pay any attention to the data.
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That's my thoughts as well.
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#6,425
#6,425
I do agree with SG though as far as using a launch monitor before buying. If you're going to spend that kind of money, you might as well make sure you get it right.
 
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