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Volsguy12 said:
can someone give me some advice? I can't hit a driver to save my life, but i can smash a 5 wood off the tee box. Is there some kind of secret to hitting a driver?
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Most slice a driver. If you have that problem, work on squaring the club face at impact. think of the toe of the club pointing toward the left after impact.

there are only 2 reasons anyone slices a golf ball:

1 Open face at impact
2 Outside to inside swing path with a square face

That is it! 99% have the open face, those that have both, hit HUGE slices. Think about the toe of the club! IT WILL HELP! I PROMICE!
 
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#2,152
peaygolf89 said:
Most slice a driver. If you have that problem, work on squaring the club face at impact. think of the toe of the club pointing toward the left after impact.

there are only 2 reasons anyone slices a golf ball:

1 Open face at impact
2 Outside to inside swing path with a square face

That is it! 99% have the open face, those that have both, hit HUGE slices. Think about the toe of the club! IT WILL HELP! I PROMICE!
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better said, a slice is the result of an open clubface relative to the path of travel of the clubhead.


I would honestly argue for people to work on generating clubhead speed with straight divots. Working on manipulating the toe of the club with proper timing is nearly impossible, IMO. Keep the hands loose and let gravity and centrifugal force unhinge and close the clubface along with proper body rotation. Work on the square clubface comes with confidence and timing, but straight divots are the best basis for a sound, long-term swing.
 
#2,153
#2,153
BigPapaVol said:
but straight divots are the best basis for a sound, long-term swing.
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I had a drill once where I pegged a tee almost flush with the ground about 6 inches in front of the ball. The goal was to hit the ball then continue on and hit the tee in front of it. It is a good concept and a continuation of the straight divot theme.
 
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I'm happy to say that my last outing to the driving range seems to have been an aberration. Today I was back to hitting the ball nicely, although I still hate the closed setup of the 4 and 5 iron in my set....
 
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#2,155
cotton said:
I had a drill once where I pegged a tee almost flush with the ground about 6 inches in front of the ball. The goal was to hit the ball then continue on and hit the tee in front of it. It is a good concept and a continuation of the straight divot theme.
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hmmm, I might try that....but 6 inches? seems like that might run the risk of causing thin contact.
 
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#2,158
BigPapaVol said:
better said, a slice is the result of an open clubface relative to the path of travel of the clubhead.


I would honestly argue for people to work on generating clubhead speed with straight divots. Working on manipulating the toe of the club with proper timing is nearly impossible, IMO. Keep the hands loose and let gravity and centrifugal force unhinge and close the clubface along with proper body rotation. Work on the square clubface comes with confidence and timing, but straight divots are the best basis for a sound, long-term swing.
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Straight diviots are great!!!!!!! But if the face is open you still slice.

The golf swing is about:

Maintaining posture
Swing plane/path
Square face

That is it! TRUST ME! It is that simple!
 
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#2,159
peaygolf89 said:
Straight diviots are great!!!!!!! But if the face is open you still slice.

The golf swing is about:

Maintaining posture
Swing plane/path
Square face

That is it! TRUST ME! It is that simple!
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So true, but lets not forget about these critical fundamentals either:

Keep your eye on the ball through impact
Keep your head still through impact

These things are key for SOLID contact

YOu can have great posture
your swing plane can be perfect with square face;however, if you don't keep your head down you are going to hit bad shots..plain and simple
 
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truefan said:
So true, but lets not forget about these critical fundamentals either:

Keep your eye on the ball through impact
Keep your head still through impact

These things are key for SOLID contact

YOu can have great posture
your swing plane can be perfect with square face;however, if you don't keep your head down you are going to hit bad shots..plain and simple
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This is like saying you must keep a straight left arm to hit quality shots.

Annika Sorenstam is a good example of a good player that does not keep her head down. Nor did David Duval when he could play. I'm sure there are others.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
This is like saying you must keep a straight left arm to hit quality shots.

Annika Sorenstam is a good example of a good player that does not keep her head down. Nor did David Duval when he could play. I'm sure there are others.
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YOu have no idea as to what you are talking about. Both of them keep their heads down AT impact not just all the way through. And the great players who do what they do are just a handful.

keeping your head down is totally different than keeping your left arm straight. There is no argument.

You don't really want to debate this. But maybe you did play D1 collegiate golf, have played in several national USGA competitions(US AM, US Mid-AM), and can regularly beat everyone within a 50 mile radius of you
 
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truefan said:
YOu have no idea as to what you are talking about. Both of them keep their heads down AT impact not just all the way through. And the great players who do what they do are just a handful.

keeping your head down is totally different than keeping your left arm straight. There is no argument.

You don't really want to debate this. But maybe you did play D1 collegiate golf, have played in several national USGA competitions(US AM, US Mid-AM), and can regularly beat everyone within a 50 mile radius of you
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hmmm. No debate needed.
 

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It's about .05 seconds after impact. Sorenstam has always had a quirkly move at impact . . . but she does it the same way every time and delivers the club to the ball squarely, so it doesn't matter.
 
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And just to destroy your claim....

As good as it gets - David Duval has a good swing | Golf Digest | Find Articles at BNET


Randy Smith, who coaches Justin Leonard, sees something along the same lines: "His rhythm is complemented by a softness in his arms that I love to see in a player. During the swing his arms look like ropes. They straighten beautifully, very naturally, on the downswing. His great impact position just seems to fall into place. He doesn't force anything."

Then there is the oddity of Duval's head rising up through impact. "Isn't it something that the two best players on the men's and women's tours -- I'm also referring to Annika Sorenstam -- don't look at the ball at impact?" says Haney. "Teachers tell their students to keep their heads down, but you have to wonder how important that advice is, especially if you mean it literally."
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Have fun being the best golfer in a 50 mile radius.
 
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GAVol said:
It's about .05 seconds after impact. Sorenstam has always had a quirkly move at impact . . . but she does it the same way every time and delivers the club to the ball squarely, so it doesn't matter.
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I agree that the most important move is having a square club face - and repeating it. The claim that the "head down" is must is not true.
 
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Duval not only raised his head up, if you watched him from behind his head actually went toward the ball.
 
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truefan said:
You don't really want to debate this. But maybe you did play D1 collegiate golf, have played in several national USGA competitions(US AM, US Mid-AM), and can regularly beat everyone within a 50 mile radius of you
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Can you please post your location so those that are within 50 miles of you can know whether to cower? :crazy:
 
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I was always taught the biggest problem isn't that people necessarily move their head up, but when they do that, they bring their shoulders and back up as well. I don't pay enough attention to Annika, but as GA alluded to, only Duval's neck moved, not his shoulders.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
I agree that the most important move is having a square club face - and repeating it. The claim that the "head down" is must is not true.
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disagree. the guy that can mke divots straight with speed can figure out the square clubface. I get the guy that can make his divots go where he's pointed, I can get him doing much with the ball by simply manipulating setup and loosening his arms.
 
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vol_in_ar said:
yep was rained out here as well
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I'll be danged if it wasn't the best day of the year for golf here in Memphis. At 7:40 high winds and a rain storm blew through and the radar in the clubhouse covered Arkansas in storms. We figured it was coming our way so we called it a day and came home.

Well, as figures, the rain never crossed the Mississippi River and it was overcast in the high 70's all morning.
 
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