The Golf Thread

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#2,226
truefan said:
Bringing up Jack Nicklaus in the same breath as David Duval is totally absurd and quite honestly, unbelievably ignorant.

Duval was like a $0.98 bottle rocket. Jack has won 18 majors

And Bill, again, your affirmation is as irrelevant as you
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unbelievable
 
#2,227
#2,227
volfanbill said:
In the grand scheme of things, you are just as irrelevant, so quit your holier than thou approach and some might take you more seriously.
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I realize such. This is a message board. I didn't come on here to make friends.

And IE....it was no error in my tip...you have much to learn

And I am done as well. Arguing with someone so uninformed is ridiculous
 
#2,228
#2,228
truefan said:
When a good player (2-3 handicap or less) hits a ball heavy or fat, there is a 99% chance he looked up before he made contact.
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I think your number is a little high there. I agree that "Looking up" does cause a lot of problems, but it's used so much as a sort of catch all for whatever went wrong that it is to the point of becoming a cliche.
 
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#2,229
i think though, that if we're talking about some guy just starting out, which i believe is how this whole thing got started, you want to make sure he keeps his head down through impact. that's just sound advice, even if it is an overused cliche.

for me, i don't focus on the center of the ball, i focus exactly on the spot on the ground where my club will impact the ball and as soon as it does, my head is moving. only club where i use the ball as my focal point is driver. sometimes, it gets me in trouble.
 
#2,230
#2,230
Now that I think about it, I have no earthly idea what I look at. :)

. . . and on top of that, I blink at impact. I've never actually seen the club meet the ball in my entire life.
 
#2,231
#2,231
like you, i don't think about it like that in my head as i'm swinging though.

the best advice to give someone learning the game is to find a swing that feels good and has the right tempo. after that pound as many golf balls as you possibly can every chance you get until it becomes muscle memory.

if only i could practice what i preach on the course i'd lose 4 or 5 strokes.
 
#2,232
#2,232
Practicing is way overrated. It's much more enjoyable to lose a few golf balls and complain a lot.
 
#2,237
#2,237
It takes the hardest clubs to hit out of your bag and replaces them with the most forgiving clubs ever made. They drive me nuts because I can't find one that I like . . . but everybody should at least give them a look.
 
#2,238
#2,238
the hybrid debate has been addressed a handful of times in this thread. I'm not a fan because I like the distances I hit my 3 and 4 and my 17 degree backs right up against my 3 iron so I don't feel the need for the hybrid. I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority. Most people feel so much more comfortable hitting a hybrid 3 or 2 than they do a long iron and opt for that. If you skim through the thread you'll find lots of details.

Like I almost bought a J33 bridgestone hybrid a few weeks ago. Had almost succumbed to the peer pressure and bought one to replace my 17 degree Adams Tight Lies, but I balked and bought a a new tennis racquet instead. Crushing the Adams lately and should get my first action with the tennis racquet this week.
 
#2,239
#2,239
I use an 18 degree hybrid to fill the gap between my 3-iron (~210) and my 3-wood (~250). I can fly it higher than a longer iron and it's fairly easy to hit. I use it primarily on par-5's when going for the green from the 220 range (which seems to come up quite a bit) and on shorter par 4's where a driver or 3-wood puts me in harm's way. It's also quite effective from the rough.
 
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#2,241
kiddiedoc said:
I use an 18 degree hybrid to fill the gap between my 3-iron (~210) and my 3-wood (~250). I can fly it higher than a longer iron and it's fairly easy to hit. I use it primarily on par-5's when going for the green from the 220 range (which seems to come up quite a bit) and on shorter par 4's where a driver or 3-wood puts me in harm's way. It's also quite effective from the rough.
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Wow, 3 wood 250? I can't hit that with my driver right now. Cool

I can't hit a 3 iron to save my life, just doesn't feel smooth like the other irons, maybe I should give one of these a look.

Or maybe I can learn to hit the ball better. mmmmm choices
 
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#2,242
RockyTopEmpire said:
I can't hit a 3 iron to save my life, just doesn't feel smooth like the other irons, maybe I should give one of these a look.
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To be honest, I used to see the 3 iron the same way. A friend of mine (a very good golfer) recently reminded me that it's just another iron, only a little bit longer. I realized that I got a little more worried when I pulled it out and was more hesitant at address.

My advice? Groove a consistent swing, and give it the same stroke as your shorter irons. Adjust the ball position accordingly, and relax. I find that when I'm pushing my long irons right, it's almost always because my grip is too firm and my arms are tight. See if you don't find pleasure in a nice, long, low draw down the fairway.
 
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#2,243
Yeah I hear ya, I had one of those hits with my 4 iron the other day (out of the rough, of course) and it just sailed, very nice.

I am taking a golf class this this fall at school, if nothing else it will give me two extra days at the driving range.

Thanks for the help
 
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#2,245
RockyTopEmpire said:
Wow, 3 wood 250? I can't hit that with my driver right now. Cool

I can't hit a 3 iron to save my life, just doesn't feel smooth like the other irons, maybe I should give one of these a look.

Or maybe I can learn to hit the ball better. mmmmm choices
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Drop your 3 iron immediately. Only use it if it's your 14th club for punching out of trouble.
 
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#2,247
UT IE 95 said:
Drop your 3 iron immediately. Only use it if it's your 14th club for punching out of trouble.
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easy there big fella. I hit a 3 iron and a hybrid 2. I see the point, but 3 irons haven't yet gone the way of the 1 and 2 iron. I would advise all beginners to start with hybrids rather than long irons, but as anyone gets better, they should transition away from as many of them as they can because irons show much better control. I still hit the 2h because 2 irons arent much on control either. The 2h is much better from the fairway and rough, is a bit longer and hits much higher, I'm all for it. I hit mine from a lot of tees.

I would probably take the 4 iron out before the 3. Seems to me that my 4 iron gets the least play in my bag.
 
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#2,249
i love my 4 iron but despise my 3. i think it's all mental because i can hit a 2 iron pretty solid.

i'm currently trying to work through that.
 
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#2,250
BigPapaVol said:
easy there big fella. I hit a 3 iron and a hybrid 2. I see the point, but 3 irons haven't yet gone the way of the 1 and 2 iron. I would advise all beginners to start with hybrids rather than long irons, but as anyone gets better, they should transition away from as many of them as they can because irons show much better control. I still hit the 2h because 2 irons arent much on control either. The 2h is much better from the fairway and rough, is a bit longer and hits much higher, I'm all for it. I hit mine from a lot of tees.

I would probably take the 4 iron out before the 3. Seems to me that my 4 iron gets the least play in my bag.
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I was only giving the advice to RTE because he is just getting started. If he can pick up a couple of hybrids he should use those as a weekend hacker - long irons are tough for the beginner. I haven't carried a 3 iron in two years. I do have a four iron, but like you, it's a rare occasion I need it. I played Stonebridge on Sunday and hit it one time - and I think that was only the second time it has been out of my bag this year.
 
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