The Great 2022 and Beyond Recession Thread

[Majors]

I blame waaaaaaay more people than that

No, accountability is a place to start. 81M need to own it.

 

[McDad]

But it doesn't stop Carter, Bush (either), Obama, Trump, etc.

Term limits prevent a voter from freely choosing who represents their interests. Better voters fix this without govt intervention. Smaller govt foxes it by removing the incentive.

I've read a lot about stupidity of voters over the years here. First of all, I think it is a hard sell because it insults to very target you want to enhance. This message dies after leaving the sender. It always has. Currently it seems to be a holier-than-thou sentiment and not earnestly directed at improved voter intelligence.

But on the chance I've missed something previously, what is the plan to produce better voters?

 

[utvolpj]

I've read a lot about stupidity of voters over the years here. First of all, I think it is a hard sell because it insults to very target you want to enhance. This message dies after leaving the sender. It always has. Currently it seems to be a holier-than-thou sentiment and not earnestly directed at improved voter intelligence.

But on the chance I've missed something previously, what is the plan to produce better voters?

If it insults then maybe the intended target was found. Honestly I couldn't care less because reading this board shows very few have a clue what's going on. It's reactionary tribalism and it's destroying this country

Better voters comes from fewer voters. Wherever that's thru additional qualifications, tests, etc it really has to happen to have any chance. Borrowing a library book and voting are about equal in difficulty.

 

[McDad]

If it insults then maybe the intended target was found. Honestly I couldn't care less because reading this board shows very few have a clue what's going on. It's reactionary tribalism and it's destroying this country

Better voters comes from fewer voters. Wherever that's thru additional qualifications, tests, etc it really has to happen to have any chance. Borrowing a library book and voting are about equal in difficulty.

You can afford to care less because you aren't the one on the front lines encouraging better voter intelligence. But you have to at least appreciate the delicate approach needed for this effort to hit a receptive audience AND result in the improvement we need.

In what ways would you limit the vote...what qualifications have you been exposed to which sound good?
Land owners?
Net tax payers?
Basic civics test?
Current events quiz?
Raise the voting age?

 

[Majors]

If it insults then maybe the intended target was found. Honestly I couldn't care less because reading this board shows very few have a clue what's going on. It's reactionary tribalism and it's destroying this country

Better voters comes from fewer voters. Wherever that's thru additional qualifications, tests, etc it really has to happen to have any chance. Borrowing a library book and voting are about equal in difficulty.

81M voted for a guy in a basement that needed protecting. That protection was by the convenience of a virus in an election year.

 

[utvolpj]

81M voted for a guy in a basement that needed protecting. That protection was by the convenience of a virus in an election year.

And 75mil voted for the other moron just printing money and giving it to his friends. Simply blaming 2020 Biden voters is moronic. This is generational

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I've read a lot about stupidity of voters over the years here. First of all, I think it is a hard sell because it insults to very target you want to enhance. This message dies after leaving the sender. It always has. Currently it seems to be a holier-than-thou sentiment and not earnestly directed at improved voter intelligence.

But on the chance I've missed something previously, what is the plan to produce better voters?

Voter intelligence... Good one

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

If it insults then maybe the intended target was found. Honestly I couldn't care less because reading this board shows very few have a clue what's going on. It's reactionary tribalism and it's destroying this country

Better voters comes from fewer voters. Wherever that's thru additional qualifications, tests, etc it really has to happen to have any chance. Borrowing a library book and voting are about equal in difficulty.

That's not what's left says. Voting hard... Especially if you aren't "as bright as white kids"

 

[utvolpj]

You can afford to care less because you aren't the one on the front lines encouraging better voter intelligence. But you have to at least appreciate the delicate approach needed for this effort to hit a receptive audience AND result in the improvement we need.

In what ways would you limit the vote...what qualifications have you been exposed to which sound good?
Land owners?
Net tax payers?
Basic civics test?
Current events quiz?
Raise the voting age?

I'm good with all. Would go with a min and max age as well. I'd also add anyone living on a check from the govt. That would knock out a whole lot.

 

[Majors]

And 75mil voted for the other moron just printing money and giving it to his friends. Simply blaming 2020 Biden voters is moronic. This is generational

75M seemed correct under the circumstances. At 45 years of age I wouldn’t say generational. My entire life the platform has been the debt we are leaving to our grandchildren. My entire life, Biden has been in Washington.

 

[McDad]

I'm good with all. Would go with a min and max age as well. I'd also add anyone living on a check from the govt. That would knock out a whole lot.

I assume your minimum age is 21 (full rights as a citizen). What's the max age, though?

 

[TheDeeble]

75M seemed correct under the circumstances. At 45 years of age I wouldn’t say generational. My entire life the platform has been the debt we are leaving to our grandchildren. My entire life, Biden has been in Washington.

It's a convenient way for the fed govt, and those that approve of deficit spending, to make it seem like it's a future problem. 20 and 30 year olds today hear it and think "oh, it's a problem 50 years from now".

The "grandchildren" are probably in their 30s and 40s now.

 

[n_huffhines]

Everyone knows it's coming thanks to potato head Joe's war on the American oil business, so let's just get things rolling. I think that we're already in a recession, we just won't have the proof until sometime in July when they release the 2nd quarter GDP numbers.

Wall Street's favorite recession indicator is flashing red

So it's not because of that, then.

The economy has been fake as **** since 2018.

 

[utvolpj]

75M seemed correct under the circumstances. At 45 years of age I wouldn’t say generational. My entire life the platform has been the debt we are leaving to our grandchildren. My entire life, Biden has been in Washington.

A generation is about 30yrs so this qualifies. Again, blaming Biden for all this is moronic

The last guy promised to print and spend more money than the Dems. That seemed "correct under the circumstances" to you?

 

[Majors]

It's a convenient way for the fed govt, and those that approve of deficit spending, to make it seem like it's a future problem. 20 and 30 year olds today hear it and think "oh, it's a problem 50 years from now".

The "grandchildren" are probably in their 30s and 40s now.

Absolutely, and new people to blame for national debt. It’s always been there at least in my time. Just new ways to spend and spin to who’s to blame now.

 

[utvolpj]

It's a convenient way for the fed govt, and those that approve of deficit spending, to make it seem like it's a future problem. 20 and 30 year olds today hear it and think "oh, it's a problem 50 years from now".

The "grandchildren" are probably in their 30s and 40s now.

Everyone during the 2 party monopoly approves of deficit spending. They just disapprove of the other side getting to do it

 

[TheDeeble]

Everyone during the 2 party monopoly approves of deficit spending. They just disapprove of the other side getting to do it

Obviously.

 

[Majors]

A generation is about 30yrs so this qualifies. Again, blaming Biden for all this is moronic

The last guy promised to print and spend more money than the Dems. That seemed "correct under the circumstances" to you?

Getting back to my first stance, Biden wouldn’t be to blame had term limits been in place. But he is. That’s moronic, more so over the guy in office for 4 years not 40+. Don’t spin to blame, don’t spin to sweep accountability either. Can’t really say we are better today than we were 3-4 years ago.

 

[utvolpj]

Getting back to my first stance, Biden wouldn’t be to blame had term limits been in place. But he is. That’s moronic, more so over the guy in office for 4 years not 40+. Don’t spin to blame, don’t spin to sweep accountability either. Can’t really say we are better today than we were 3-4 years ago.

You mean 3-4 yrs ago when the last guy was reenacting Brewster's millions?

 

[Majors]

You mean 3-4 yrs ago when the last guy was reenacting Brewster's millions?

I mean 3-4 years when gas was down, jobs were thriving and unemployment wasn’t discharged by a manufactured virus. I mean 3-4 years ago when those laid off were not used as a pawn when jobs came back being talked about as the greatest jobs creation. Yeah, that 3-4 years ago. Same 3-4 years ago when 401K was 75K higher than what it is today. That 3-4 years ago.

 

[utvolpj]

I mean 3-4 years when gas was down, jobs were thriving and unemployment wasn’t discharged by a manufactured virus. I mean 3-4 years ago when those laid off were not used as a pawn when jobs came back being talked about as the greatest jobs creation. Yeah, that 3-4 years ago. Same 3-4 years ago when 401K was 75K higher than what it is today. That 3-4 years ago.

A moment on time like being in the eye of a hurricane. We were on shaky economic ground then and inflation was absolutely looming.

 

[utvolpj]

I assume your minimum age is 21 (full rights as a citizen). What's the max age, though?

Idk, 65? Most will get knocked out anyways once the govt check regulations kick in

 

[ButchPlz]

Letting people vote that receive any government assistance is asinine. Same as letting non-property (specifically, real-estate) owners vote. And I knock myself out with that last one as I don't own real estate here in the US.

Giving idiots that can't even get their own lives in line the ability to influence everyone else's to the extreme degree we allow is 100% the reason we are in our current situation.

 

[85SugarVol]

You can afford to care less because you aren't the one on the front lines encouraging better voter intelligence. But you have to at least appreciate the delicate approach needed for this effort to hit a receptive audience AND result in the improvement we need.

In what ways would you limit the vote...what qualifications have you been exposed to which sound good?
Land owners?
Net tax payers?
Basic civics test?
Current events quiz?
Raise the voting age?

I think we should just let me decide

 

[85SugarVol]

In what ways would you limit the vote...
Land owners?
Net tax payers?
Basic civics test?
Current events quiz?
Raise the voting age?

But seriously, I like these two.