The headline should say, "Illegal alien shot by officers defending US border"

No, but there are different levels of enforcement. Shooting into a crowd is last resort. Like I said earlier, this could be a last resort situation, but I, personally (to make it clear to the tar and feather type around here that this is opinion due to lack of video), doubt his life was threatened to the point of not being able to leave. He could of left, got on the radio, detain the suspect later on, and brought it in a riot team. If a riot team or backup is not available, I still would not fire into the crowd when it was not necessary.

If the suspect was let go he would have simply run back across to the other side. I am not saying he has zero fault here, what I am saying is if we allow criminals to dictate how, when and where we apprehend those breaking the laws we might as well just throw our hands up and give up altogether.

I know I wouldn't stand at the border and throw large rocks at Mexican border officials, I would probably expect a round or two to be fired my way.
 
That is not the reason that our politicians have consistently neglected to enforce immigration laws.

You are correct, there is no one single reason immigration laws haven't been enforced. This is the specific reason I used the words "one of the big reasons".
 
We're already dealing with their mess and will continue to do so. Why not get some natural resources and more land out of it amongst other things? I tend to think they like where they live, they're just broke. If the "American Dream" came to them, perhaps they would be happy enough to live it down there? I realize it's not that simple and probably won't happen in our lifetime, but I think it will happen one day.

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That's not the point, the point is that throwing rocks does not justify firing a weapon towards a crowd. Now if one came up behind an officer and bashed his head with a rock with the intent of killing him, then sure. But the boy died on the mexican side of the river.

I'm not expecting a Mexican revolution. But I fully expect them to be pissed.

Who gives a **** if they're pissed?
 
I guess I'm just morally wired different than you all. I could never justify shooting into a crowd and potentially killing several people all over immigrants who are probably committing a harmless crime (the non-*********-bomb-on-the-back type of immigration). Even if they are dangerous, generally, when someone crosses the border, you have several miles to detain him. It didn't have to be done right then and there. I would have gotten on my bike, and got the **** out.

I see everybody's point. I would pull out my gun if I could not leave, but I have a hard time believing that was the case. That would have to be some serious rock hurling. Like some Braveheart type ****.

Wow! Send your resume in to the administration immediately. You're exactly the type of border patrol agent that our federal government is seeking.
 
About 10 Apaches set in strategic locations along the border would suffice

Flew that mission, JTF-6, back in the day. Not a good use of attack aircraft nor are they suited to rounding people up. That platform is made to kill armored vehicles and artillery.
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So will this be anything akin to the Israeli-flotilla situation?

Do we expect condemnation for this act?
I don't really know why it would be an issue. Boarder Patrol guy killing one of the many illegal aliens trying to harm him.
 
Flew that mission, JTF-6, back in the day. Not a good use of attack aircraft nor are they suited to rounding people up. That platform is made to kill armored vehicles and artillery.
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I guess I'm just morally wired different than you all. I could never justify shooting into a crowd and potentially killing several people all over immigrants who are probably committing a harmless crime (the non-*********-bomb-on-the-back type of immigration). Even if they are dangerous, generally, when someone crosses the border, you have several miles to detain him. It didn't have to be done right then and there. I would have gotten on my bike, and got the **** out.

I see everybody's point. I would pull out my gun if I could not leave, but I have a hard time believing that was the case. That would have to be some serious rock hurling. Like some Braveheart type ****.

Good thing you're not in the military..I'm glad I served so that I (and I believe this) helped defend our freedoms. Even the right to have and express any opinion you want. But picture this Criminal getting past the border kidnapping your sister or daughter. To dramatic? Picture him setting up his profession (drugs) in your neighborhood. Still willing to turn a blind eye to this?
Killing a child will stay with this man his whole life regardless of whether its justified or not. You want to sneak into the states I can understand that, I disagree with it but understand. Assaulting someone because they catch you and getting shot is the price you pay for stupidity.
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Flew that mission, JTF-6, back in the day. Not a good use of attack aircraft nor are they suited to rounding people up. That platform is made to kill armored vehicles and artillery.
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Would warthogs be better??

I thought he was talking about indians, the longest war ever fought in American history was against the Apache, over 40 years.

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In America these days you have to show more ID to buy a six pack than to be president.
 
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Hispanics abandon Arizona, fleeing economy, immigration law - Yahoo! News

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Read the comments below the article...
All you racist @#$%s are screwed, I'm a legalized Mexican and proud of it. Trust me I'll be inviting the rest of my family to stay with me right here in good old phoenix, AZ. Which I might add was previously Mexico.

Next time you see a car driving with a Mexican flag that's me. Oh by the way I keep a concealed weapon. Good ol Arizona!!!!!!! :):):):):):):)

Viva la raza
 
Within walking distance of a major drug smuggling corridor:

FOXNews.com - Gunmen kill 19 people at
drug rehab clinic in northern Mexico; 16 slain in another city

CNSNews.com -
Hezbollah, Hamas Raise Money for ?Terrorist Activities? From Drug
Trade in South America, Congressional Research Service Says


“Salim Boughader Mucharrafille, a cafe owner in Tijuana, Mexico,
was arrested for illegally smuggling more than 200 Lebanese illegally
into the United States, including several believed to have terrorist
ties to Hezbollah.”
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“If smugglers can bring in tons of marijuana and cocaine at one
time and can smuggle 20 to 30 persons at one time, one can just
imagine how easy it would be to bring in 2 to 3 terrorists or their
weapons of mass destruction across the river and not be detected.
Chances of apprehension are very slim.”
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A 2004 study by the Naval War College revealed that Hezbollah
raises close to $10,000,000 a year in the Tri-border region, although
not all of it comes from the drug trade. “U.S. Southern Command
estimates that Islamist terrorist groups raise between three hundred
million and five hundred million dollars per year in the Triple Frontier
and the duty-free zones of Iquique, Colon, Maicao, and Margarita
Island [in South America],” the study said.
 
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This was discounted after Vietnam War. George Kennan imo really screwed us over.
No it wasn't. Just because someone might have said that doesn't mean the idea doesn't have value. People get very antsy with the bad guys on the doorstep and for very good reason.
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No it wasn't. Just because someone might have said that doesn't mean the idea doesn't have value. People get very antsy with the bad guys on the doorstep and for very good reason.
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When we pulled out of Vietnam and no other country fell, his idea was shot. At least in that part of the country. Here, yeah I can understand it being an issue since it is much closer to home.
 

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