The Hire Charlie Strong Thread

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orangeslice13 said:
Upon review MiMi was right about Kelly. He rejected us pre Kiffy not pre Dools
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And of course once again you are WRONG...Kelly never rejected us, in fact He himself said he was 12 hours away from being UT's head coach but that Hamilton wanted Kiffin because of the staff he would bring in...Just curious, Do you EVER get anything right besides spelling?....Seriously???
 
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Volinnooga said:
Is everytone really that sold on Charlie Strong?
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not everyone, I believe he's a good coach but doesn't have enough HC experience and a poor winning percentage. Two things I don't think we should gamble on. Every year people just look at the current record and think WOW this guys GREAT but the fact is that he's 22-13 and 1-2 in bowl games. May I add that their schedule is weak this year? They are 10th in the polls and at 8-0...they are the only team that's undefeated and ranked this poorly. Additionally this is his 3rd year..why doesn't he have 1 ranked team on the schedule? Why are they ranked in the 40's in every category? That should tell you something.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
Turning us down because the salary offer is budget-level, and asking that much of the current staff stay, is far different than being turned down when the AD says "Just name your price."

It's apples and oranges. Hamilton thought (after still having to pay Fulmer's buyout, and getting nothing from Kiffin's departure) he could find him another Bruce Pearl, but for the Football team.

He thought wrong. Dead wrong.
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I agree with this.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
And of course once again you are WRONG...Kelly never rejected us, in fact He himself said he was 12 hours away from being UT's head coach but that Hamilton wanted Kiffin because of the staff he would bring in...Just curious, Do you EVER get anything right besides spelling?....Seriously???
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That's why Kelly went on ESPN to make a speech how his kid didn't want to live in Knoxville.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
You said $5.5M to $6M, so we'll say $5.75M.

That would make him the 4th highest paid coach in the NFL.
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I know Fisher's salary was $6mill before he left the Titans...and if you remember, the team had been at the bottom of the league for a few years
 
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orangeslice13 said:
As much as I would love for that to be true, it's simply not the case.
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I hope we are going to land Gruden, but Strong should be the No.2, imo. The only prospect I could see above him, is Patterson, and he's making, what $3+ mill even at TCU. Probably has a big buyout, so that makes him less attractive for an AD/Boosters.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
I hope we are going to land Gruden, but Strong should be the No.2, imo. The only prospect I could see above him, is Patterson, and he's making, what $3+ mill even at TCU. Probably has a big buyout, so that makes him less attractive for an AD/Boosters.
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The Horned Frog currently has no (zero $) buyout and is a popular among those who matter.
 
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Volinnooga said:
Tell me why?
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Petrino/Kragthorpe left Louisville with I-AA numbers and an awful record. Strong has rebuilt the numbers with quality talent. This has allowed him to build a winner at Louisville.

He is a quality recruiter, especially in Florida where he has developed considerable contacts over the years. That would be of benefit to Tennessee.

I know: the Big East is weak and Louisville is merely the best of what is essentially a mid-major conference. But most head coaches have to start somewhere. Pat Dye started at East Carolina and Wyoming. It didn't stop him from building an elite-level program at Auburn.

Charlie Strong is a proven head coach at the mid-major level. A program at a bigger stage than Louisville is going to hand him his chance and they will profit from it immensely.

He's built a program in worse shape than Tennessee to a high standard of performance. I tend to think Tennessee needs a home-run name to give a much-needed morale-boost to the fanbase. But Strong has seen this situation before and built it into something far better than it was when he found it. He'd be a good choice if we can't find the big name man for the job.
 
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T.N. Buckingham said:
Petrino/Kragthorpe left Louisville with I-AA numbers and an awful record. Strong has rebuilt the numbers with quality talent. This has allowed him to build a winner at Louisville.

He is a quality recruiter, especially in Florida where he has developed considerable contacts over the years. That would be of benefit to Tennessee.

I know: the Big East is weak and Louisville is merely the best of what is essentially a mid-major conference. But most head coaches have to start somewhere. Pat Dye started at East Carolina and Wyoming. It didn't stop him from building an elite-level program at Auburn.

Charlie Strong is a proven head coach at the mid-major level. A program at a bigger stage than Louisville is going to hand him his chance and they will profit from it immensely.

He's built a program in worse shape than Tennessee to a high standard of performance. I tend to think Tennessee needs a home-run name to give a much-needed morale-boost to the fanbase. But Strong has seen this situation before and built it into something far better than it was when he found it. He'd be a good choice if we can't find the big name man for the job.
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You answered every question but the part where you know he can coach....the numbers don't add up.
 
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knoxtnguy said:
You answered every question but the part where you know he can coach....the numbers don't add up.
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How don't the numbers add up? He took a 4 win team to a bowl game in 2 years, with a lot of freshman. In year 3 he has his team undefeated. I know they play in the big east, but they were playing in the big east when they won 4 games too. So its still improvement, so he can coach. He recruits great to be in the big east and at UofL. Like Ive said in the past his recruiting would only improve at UT in the SEC.
 
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BadJerry20 said:
How don't the numbers add up? He took a 4 win team to a bowl game in 2 years, with a lot of freshman. In year 3 he has his team undefeated. I know they play in the big east, but they were playing in the big east when they won 4 games too. So its still improvement, so he can coach. He recruits great to be in the big east and at UofL. Like Ive said in the past his recruiting would only improve at UT in the SEC.
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There's a reason he's climbing everyone's list. He will get a shot at the big time. Just not here unfortunately.
 
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T.N. Buckingham said:
Petrino/Kragthorpe left Louisville with I-AA numbers and an awful record. Strong has rebuilt the numbers with quality talent. This has allowed him to build a winner at Louisville.

He is a quality recruiter, especially in Florida where he has developed considerable contacts over the years. That would be of benefit to Tennessee.

I know: the Big East is weak and Louisville is merely the best of what is essentially a mid-major conference. But most head coaches have to start somewhere. Pat Dye started at East Carolina and Wyoming. It didn't stop him from building an elite-level program at Auburn.

Charlie Strong is a proven head coach at the mid-major level. A program at a bigger stage than Louisville is going to hand him his chance and they will profit from it immensely.

He's built a program in worse shape than Tennessee to a high standard of performance. I tend to think Tennessee needs a home-run name to give a much-needed morale-boost to the fanbase. But Strong has seen this situation before and built it into something far better than it was when he found it. He'd be a good choice if we can't find the big name man for the job.
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I appreciate the response. I think some of the groundwork was in place in Louisville but there's no doubt he's ramped the program up a notch or two. You make some valid points but I think many see him as a great coach just because Louisville is undefetaed this year. Doing well at Louisville doesn't necessarily translate to success in the SEC but he might e worth the risk.

My preference, if he's interested (and if we are going to make a change) would be Mullen. He's built a low tier SEC program into a competitive team so I think he has a better track record than Strong does. But they ain't seeking my advise so who knows?
 
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BadJerry20 said:
How don't the numbers add up? He took a 4 win team to a bowl game in 2 years, with a lot of freshman. In year 3 he has his team undefeated. I know they play in the big east, but they were playing in the big east when they won 4 games too. So its still improvement, so he can coach. He recruits great to be in the big east and at UofL. Like Ive said in the past his recruiting would only improve at UT in the SEC.
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he also has one of the easiest schedules i've ever seen. That doesn't translate well to the SEC.
 
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Strong is my absolute #2.....and I hate to say it but Gruden doesn't seem realistic however a nice addition to a wish list.
 
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Strong would be in my top 6 for sure. He would be a huge step up from Dooley. He has actually on at some level. He has SEC ties and recruits the state of Florida very well. 3.5 million would be my limit for him. Anything over that, I look elsewhere.
 
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T.N. Buckingham said:
Petrino/Kragthorpe left Louisville with I-AA numbers and an awful record. Strong has rebuilt the numbers with quality talent. This has allowed him to build a winner at Louisville.

He is a quality recruiter, especially in Florida where he has developed considerable contacts over the years. That would be of benefit to Tennessee.

I know: the Big East is weak and Louisville is merely the best of what is essentially a mid-major conference. But most head coaches have to start somewhere. Pat Dye started at East Carolina and Wyoming. It didn't stop him from building an elite-level program at Auburn.

Charlie Strong is a proven head coach at the mid-major level. A program at a bigger stage than Louisville is going to hand him his chance and they will profit from it immensely.

He's built a program in worse shape than Tennessee to a high standard of performance. I tend to think Tennessee needs a home-run name to give a much-needed morale-boost to the fanbase. But Strong has seen this situation before and built it into something far better than it was when he found it. He'd be a good choice if we can't find the big name man for the job.
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I think Strong and Patterson would fall into the "Homerun" category. Obviously, Gruden would be viewed as a Grand Slam, because of his past achievements and that he's pretty much a celebrity on MNF.
 
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Escape Goat said:
Please, god no. Dude is highly overrated.
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Based on what? He was one of the top QB's in his class and he's done nothing since to indicate those evaluations were wrong. He's the very reason why UL is at the top of their conference and undefeated. He's provided a lot more clutch leadership/playmaking ability than Bray...and still you say HE is the one that's overrated. Bray is overrated....literally. Doesn't mean I don't believe he can live up to his potential, but Bridgewater is getting it done.
 
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