The Hunter Biden Thread

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You seem pretty politically selective in your outrage. Plenty of crimes where the right is pin-drop-silent as well (like W and Cheney)
Orange_Crush said:
But now the left is pin-drop-silent as Biden abuses his power on the way out.
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What abuse of power?
 
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utvolpj said:
You seem pretty politically selective in your outrage. Plenty of crimes where the right is pin-drop-silent as well (like W and Cheney)

What abuse of power?
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That's why I said that we can't trust the Republicans either.

And if you don't see using your presidential powers to pardon anything your son may have done, while you are being investigated as his coconspirator in federal influence peddling, as a major conflict of interest and abuse of power...?

Feel free to start a thread about any other abuse of power and we'll have an outrage party about those as well.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
That's why I said that we can't trust the Republicans either.

And if you don't see using your presidential powers to pardon anything your son may have done, while you are being investigated as his coconspirator in federal influence peddling, as a major conflict of interest and abuse of power...?

Feel free to start a thread about any other abuse of power and we'll have an outrage party about those as well.
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If Trump pardons people that stormed the Capitol on 1/6 to try to help him in stay in power, will you be pointing to the same conflict of interest?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
That's why I said that we can't trust the Republicans either.

And if you don't see using your presidential powers to pardon anything your son may have done, while you are being investigated as his coconspirator in federal influence peddling, as a major conflict of interest and abuse of power...?

Feel free to start a thread about any other abuse of power and we'll have an outrage party about those as well.
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I fail to see the abuse of power of it's actually something outlined in his job description
 
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lawgator1 said:
If Trump pardons people that stormed the Capitol on 1/6 to try to help him in stay in power, will you be pointing to the same conflict of interest?
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For the first time in the history of our country a president has pardoned a child and collaterally probably insured they themselves avoided prosecution. Yes it’s clear to anybody with a singular functioning brain cell that Puddinhead is the Big Guy.

So you probably need to just go sit in the corner with the “but Trump” BS this time.
 
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lawgator1 said:
If Trump pardons people that stormed the Capitol on 1/6 to try to help him in stay in power, will you be pointing to the same conflict of interest?
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The Trump supporters were between the velvet ropes taking pictures after the DC police opened magnetically sealed doors.Antifa, BLM and feds who were in the crowd pretending to be Trump supporters are the ones who caused problems. To this day only Trump supporters were killed including the cold blooded murder of veteran Ashley Babbit, you must be extremely proud.
 
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lawgator1 said:
If Trump pardons people that stormed the Capitol on 1/6 to try to help him in stay in power, will you be pointing to the same conflict of interest?
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I've been watching those hearings as well. Looks more like the feds planted insurrectionists among peaceful protestors. Dems pealed back security to let it happen. Now everyone has amnesia and won't answer questions. I'm not sure how Trump has been shown to be the cause of all that. There doesn't seem to be a Trump-implicating investigation going on that the pardons could undermine.

Exactly how would Trump pardons be equivalent to Biden? I'm happy to discuss, but in so doing will just point out that it says a lot that you're hand-waving Biden right now. It's almost like you want to just run cover for your party instead of just
 
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hog88 said:
A blanket pardon covering over a decade is an admission of much bigger crimes committed by more than Hunter alone.
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I’m curious if there’s similar precedent. Open question to anyone not just Hog, but do we know of any similar blanket pardons or pardons that cover such a significant amount of time

Originally I was focused on the fact that he lied about it and how bad of a look this is, that I completely missed this aspect
 
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utvolpj said:
In what? That I don't see abuse of power when it's something listed in the roles and responsibilities of the job?

Every 4-8yrs a bunch of influential criminals get their crimes pardoned. Does that surprise you?
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*Abuse* of power describes, well.. The ABUSE of a power otherwise granted you.

That is an incredibly stupid retort.

It doesn't surprise me. It does bother me. Unless it's a conflict of interest and undermines an active investigation that the pardoner is embroiled in, it's not the same thing.

You seem very actively intent on not understanding the big deal of this.
 
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lawgator1 said:
If Trump pardons people that stormed the Capitol on 1/6 to try to help him in stay in power, will you be pointing to the same conflict of interest?
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Well, there is now precedence. Thanks, Joe.

Are you going to bite your tongue when it happens?
 
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OrangeTsar said:
One thing not being discussed much, how does this affect the democrat party going forward?
Watergate was a weight that the Republicans carried around for years
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My guess is it won't have much effect on the dems, the MSM covered, investigated and dug deep into Watergate. This will be forgotten by next week.
 
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hog88 said:
I have no clue about that but what leverage would a prosecutor have over him to make him testify? None IMO.
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Ding, ding, ding.


Imagine a DA that's under investigation. They give unlimited immunity to an alleged co-conspirator. The police bring the alleged co-conspirator in for testimony. Offers them... what? Immunity for their testimony?
 
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Vol8188 said:
I’m curious if there’s similar precedent. Open question to anyone not just Hog, but do we know of any similar blanket pardons or pardons that cover such a significant amount of time

Originally I was focused on the fact that he lied about it and how bad of a look this is, that I completely missed this aspect
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Good question.

Ford granted Nixon a blanket pardon that covered a 4-5 year period.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Ding, ding, ding.


Imagine a DA that's under investigation. They give unlimited immunity to an alleged co-conspirator. The police bring the alleged co-conspirator in for testimony. Offers them... what? Immunity for their testimony?
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Yes, that has been taken off the table... the immunity was already given i.e. pardon. Of course, any future federal prosecutor could indict Joe Biden for murder anytime they want.

Hunter has limited ability to invoke the fifth, although someone might try and be creative. Of course, if Hunter attempts to cover his or another person's tracks here on out.... it could be a separate new crime even if the original crime he has been pardoned for.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
It's Trump's fault!😂🤣🤪👌

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I’m serious. This really happened.

The morning after Will Smith pimp slapped Chris Rock, CNN had some crazy lady on their panel blaming Trump! Something about the environment Trump created for black men in America and how negatively that affected their psyche.

TDS is real! It’s real. It’s real!
 
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LSU-SIU said:
If he can't be prosecuted than invoking the fifth is not an option.
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Maybe, maybe not. I would guess that Hunter could possibly be subject to a state prosecution so he could possibly still plead the 5th.
 
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