The Impeachment Thread

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Republicans want whistleblower's sources, as inconsistencies in complaint emerge

Top Republicans on Thursday pushed to identify the White House officials who told a whistleblower of alleged misconduct by the Trump administration, as Democrats ramped up their impeachment inquiry -- and several apparent inconsistencies emerged in the whistleblower's complaint.
Republicans specifically questioned why the whistleblower's sources in the White House didn't file a complaint themselves -- and whether crimes may have been committed as they fed him information. (The New York Times reported that the whistleblower is a CIA officer detailed to the White House. Fox News has not confirmed The Times' report.)
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#2,928
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AM64 said:
You think we'd let the Ukrainian version of our FBI walk in and investigate on US soil if it were the other way around?
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This was their investigation all along until Biden used. A Billion of taxpayer $$$ to shut it down. They’ve been trying to give us the evidence ever since but have been stopped by the crooked Obama holdovers.

Now the corrupt Ambassador is out of the way and info is flowing in against the corrupt...aka democrats trying to influence the 2016 election through a foreign country.
 
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37L1 said:
Let's get real: Democrats were first to enlist Ukraine in US elections

Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) delivered a pointed message to Ukraine’s new president, Volodymyr Zelensky.

Murphy boasted after the meeting that he told the new Ukrainian leader that U.S. aid was his country’s “most important asset” and it would be viewed as election meddling and “disastrous for long-term U.S.-Ukraine relations” to bend to the wishes of Trump and Giuliani.

"I told Zelensky that he should not insert himself or his government into American politics. I cautioned him that complying with the demands of the President's campaign representatives to investigate a political rival of the President would gravely damage the U.S.-Ukraine relationship. There are few things that Republicans and Democrats agree on in Washington these days, and support for Ukraine is one of them," Murphy told me today, confirming what he told Ukraine's leader.

The implied message did not require an interpreter for Zelensky to understand: Investigate the Ukraine dealings of Joe Biden and his son Hunter, and you jeopardize Democrats' support for future U.S. aid to Kiev.

The Murphy anecdote is a powerful reminder that, since at least 2016, Democrats repeatedly have exerted pressure on Ukraine, a key U.S. ally for buffering Russia, to meddle in U.S. politics and elections.
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Wonder if Murphy also added the reminder that congress and not the president controls spending to to cement the point. Of course, Obama didn't have any problems unilaterally paying off Iran without raising questions among dims.
 
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Septic said:
I say we go to the tape. The one that was hermetically sealed in a Hellmans jar and buried in the secret tape graveyard.

Surely the tape will exonerate Donny.
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Lol i don't think anything will ever exonerate Donny. Marie won't talk about her brother, i think Jimmy is dead so Donny gets no back up.
 
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Mick said:
I never said that. NEVER. I've never even heard anyone else say that either. Please find the posts.
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Remember the girl convicted of murder in Italy. And all the US citizens locked up in muslim countries around the world ... granted there may not have been any real investigations there, but yeah, other countries do investigate US citizens.
 
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#2,933
The sudden influx of Ukraine experts here is really something.

Weird none of these people were around when we discussed the war there for several years.

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37L1 said:
As I have reported, the pressure began at least as early as January 2016, when the Obama White House unexpectedly invited Ukraine’s top prosecutors to Washington to discuss fighting corruption in the country.

The meeting, promised as training, turned out to be more of a pretext for the Obama administration to pressure Ukraine’s prosecutors to drop an investigation into the Burisma Holdings gas company that employed Hunter Biden and to look for new evidence in a then-dormant criminal case against eventual Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, a GOP lobbyist.

U.S. officials “kept talking about how important it was that all of our anti-corruption efforts be united,” said Andrii Telizhenko, the former political officer in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington who organized and attended the meetings.

Nazar Kholodnytsky, Ukraine’s chief anti-corruption prosecutor, told me that, soon after he returned from the Washington meeting, he saw evidence in Ukraine of political meddling in the U.S. election. That's when two top Ukrainian officials released secret evidence to the American media, smearing Manafort.

The release of the evidence forced Manafort to step down as Trump’s top campaign adviser. A Ukrainian court concluded last December that the release of the evidence amounted to an unlawful intervention in the U.S. election by Kiev’s government, although that ruling has since been overturned on a technicality.

Shortly after the Ukrainian prosecutors returned from their Washington meeting, a new round of Democratic pressure was exerted on Ukraine — this time via its embassy in Washington.

Valeriy Chaly, the Ukrainian ambassador to the United States at the time, confirmed to me in a statement issued by his office that, in March 2016, a contractor for the Democratic National Committee (DNC) pressed his embassy to try to find any Russian dirt on Trump and Manafort that might reside in Ukraine’s intelligence files.

The DNC contractor also asked Chaly's team to try to persuade Ukraine’s president at the time, Petro Poroshenko, to make a statement disparaging Manafort when the Ukrainian leader visited the United States during the 2016 election.

Chaly said his embassy rebuffed both requests because it recognized they were improper efforts to get a foreign government to try to influence the election against Trump and for Hillary Clinton.

Let's get real: Democrats were first to enlist Ukraine in US elections
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The Bidens would certainly know a thing or two about gas.
 
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Septic said:
The only folks that keep trying to make this about Biden are the Trumpers. Desperately trying to deflect and convince everyone to please, please, for the love of god please stop being mean to Trump and pay attention to Biden.

I'm not sure Biden's lost any votes, people who like Biden know he's part and parcel to the establishment.
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He’s not going to gain any from this either . If Trump makes it through this and Biden is the nominee , Trump will wear him out over this on the campaign trail just like he did hills and the emails .
 
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hjeagle1vol said:
Poor LG needs a lifeline...he’s drowning up in here
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I'm good. At peace tonight, knowing that our long national nightmare is almost over. Trump has one last opportunity to do the honorable thing. Just resign. He won't. But there's one last chance for him.
 
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MontyPython said:
He's not A dumbass. He's THE dumbestass.
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He’s the Dumbass that keeps on making it through every poo pile slung at him from every direction . He is the “white whale “ and every time the dems go after him somebody gets tangled up in the riggings with that one arm flopping for help .
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'm good. At peace tonight, knowing that our long national nightmare is almost over. Trump has one last opportunity to do the honorable thing. Just resign. He won't. But there's one last chance for him.
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Lol wow I don’t know what kind of psychedelics you are trying but I think I want some too . It looks like fun .
 
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