The Impeachment Thread

[golfballs]

 

[Orangeburst]

How convenient.

 

[Mick]

A guy who was investigating a company that was paying his crackhead son $50,000 per month. And for what exactly? There needs to be an investigation

News flash, People on a Board don't do anything but collect a check.

 

[Mick]

If someone didn't think you had hit rock bottom with your responses already, you outdone yourself with the Federalist.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Ok that’s pretty damn interesting. It doesn’t add any credibility to the process, rather it actually invites hearsay now.

But I would LOVE to hear the rationale on why the intelligence community, of all damn communities, thinks opening up a valid complaint basis to include hearsay is a valid and worth while change.

 

[RockyTop85]

A guy who was investigating a company that was paying his crackhead son $50,000 per month. And for what exactly? There needs to be an investigation

Thank you for the response.

Here’s why I’m not convinced by John Solomon:

There have been multiple instances of former co-workers and other journalists criticizing Solomon for being fast and loose with facts.

Something fishy?

“Then again, Solomon has a history of bending the truth to his storyline. As a reporter for the AP and The Washington Post, he dug up his share of genuine dirt, but he also was notorious for massaging facts to conjure phantom scandals. In 2006, for instance, Solomon and fellow AP writer Sharon Theimer tried to tie now-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to disgraced super-lobbyist Jack Abramoff. The piece hinged on a series of meetings Reid had with Abramoff’s staff to discuss a pending minimum-wage bill and gifts from Abramoff associates who opposed several casino-expansion projects. What it failed to mention is that Reid stuck to his longstanding position on both issues—meaning that any implications of influence peddling were bogus.”

These criticisms have arisen because Solomon frequently leaves out material facts to create scandal where there is none.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/26/AR2007012601571.html
The Edwards story, by John Solomon and Lois Romano, was controversial even in the Post newsroom and was attacked by Edwards, his staff, liberal-leaning blogs and about 50 readers.

Reader Robert SanGeorge of Chevy Chase wrote: "I read it three times and could not figure out why it was a news story, let alone a front-pager. What's worse was that the placement, the headline and the tone of the story clearly implied that former senator Edwards had done something sleazy."

The story was interesting, but it was more of an item for the Reliable Source or In the Loop -- and not worth Page 1. It seemed like a "gotcha" without the gotcha.

Wash. Times' new executive editor, John Solomon, has history of distortion

http://archive.ph/pejay

Here's What The FBI Lovers' Secret Texts Actually Say About Trump, Clinton And Leaks | HuffPost

On the other hand, there are a number of people with no US political affiliation who suggest Solomon is again leaving something out:


Ukrainian anti-corruption activist. What she says is corroborated by one of Shokin’s assistants.

Vitaly Kasko - Wikipedia

Vitaly Kasko(Ukrainian: Віталій Вікторович Касько; born 29 June 1976) is a Ukrainianlawyer. He served as Deputy Prosecutor Generalunder Viktor Shokinand resigned on February 15 denouncing the corruptionand "total lawlessness" of the Prosecutor's office.[1]

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

"There was no pressure from anyone from the U.S. to close cases against Zlochevsky," Kasko told Bloomberg. "It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015."

Clearly we should never trust a man who resigns out of principle.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

The EU was in on it.

EU hails sacking of Ukraine’s prosecutor Viktor Shokin

So was this guy:


Maybe that’s how you spell “Hunter Biden” in Ukrainian? Wait, no, this is the economic development minister who was struggling to cultivate outside investment in Ukraine. Also corroborates Kaleniuk’s tweet above.

Did I read that right? 289 votes in favor of accepting his resignation? Damn, but there’s probably like 477 members of parliament m, right? No? Only 295? Only 6 Ukrainian MPs were able to resist Libtard democrats temptations and dirty dealings?

Hunter Biden 'did not violate anything,' former Ukrainian prosecutor says
Yuri Lutsenko, a former Ukrainian prosecutor general who succeeded the fired prosecutor, told Bloomberg News that there was no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe or Hunter Biden.

quote]“In September 2015, then-U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt gave a speech in which he attacked the Ukrainian prosecutor general’s office for failing to cooperate with the British investigation. In his speech — which I quoted in my story — Pyatt mentioned Burisma’s owner by name.

“In the case of former Ecology Minister Mykola Zlochevsky, the U.K. authorities had seized $23 million in illicit assets that belonged to the Ukrainian people,” Pyatt said. Officials at the prosecutor general’s office, he added, were asked by the United Kingdom “to send documents supporting the seizure. Instead they sent letters to Zlochevsky’s attorneys attesting that there was no case against him. As a result, the money was freed by the U.K. court, and shortly thereafter the money was moved to Cyprus.”

All of the contemporaneous evidence shows that the Obama admin was pushing for Shokin’s removal because he wasn’t prosecuting dirty oligarchs, including the head of Burisma, he was protecting them, who our ambassador mentioned by name in a speech criticizing Shokin.

 

[tvolsfan]

A guy who was investigating a company that was paying his crackhead son $50,000 per month. And for what exactly? There needs to be an investigation

What is the evidence against his son? What would the investigation be about? There's nothing there. It's just a bunch of right wing conspiracy theorists who saw the opportunity to rile up simpletons.

 

[VolnJC]

Easy to see this has been a coordinated witch hunt with rule changes after the fact...they are gonna get roasted in the upcoming hearings I can't wait.

 

[Hunerwadel]

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Explain to me how asking Ukraine about Biden is an attack on our election.

You may not believe that Trump tried to trade US aid for dirt on Biden and that's fine. But please don't act like you don't know what this about.

 

[golfballs]

All of the contemporaneous evidence shows that the Obama admin was pushing for Shokin’s removal because he wasn’t prosecuting dirty oligarchs, including the head of Burisma, he was protecting them, who our ambassador mentioned by name in a speech criticizing Shokin.

Mykola zlochevsky, the most corrupt man in Ukraine, founded the company and had to flee the country. Interesting that after the Obama admin and Biden intervened he was “exonerated” and his bank account unfrozen....

 

[golfballs]

What is the evidence against his son? What would the investigation be about? There's nothing there. It's just a bunch of right wing conspiracy theorists who saw the opportunity to rile up simpletons.

Lmao. After clinging tooth and nail for 3 years over the Russia collusion hoax you’re pretty quick to brush aside this as a conspiracy. Hahahaha

 

[zeppelin128]

With all the deflections getting thrown around by Red Hats in here, you guys need to be on our secondary.

 

[Mick]

What is the evidence against his son? What would the investigation be about? There's nothing there. It's just a bunch of right wing conspiracy theorists who saw the opportunity to rile up simpletons.

They are riled alright. The reason they rely on the conspiracy theories is because reality is harder for the ones that have built theirs on lies.

 

[golfballs]

They are riled alright. The reason they rely on the conspiracy theories is because reality is harder for the ones that have built theirs on lies.

Were you molested by Brett Kavanaugh too?

 

[RockyTop85]

Mykola zlochevsky, the most corrupt man in Ukraine, founded the company and had to flee the country. Interesting that after the Obama admin and Biden intervened he was “exonerated” and his bank account unfrozen....

So you respond to all that with unsupported, subjective judgements about Zlochevsky and innuendo about Obama/Biden based on what you find “interesting?” And you bristle when people call you a conspiracy theorist?

At this point you’ve squandered your chance to be taken seriously for the day. Gonna need some links.

Also, Shokin unfroze Zlochevsky’s bank accounts. It’s the last item in the wall of facts.

 

[Orangeburst]

With all the deflections getting thrown around by Red Hats in here, you guys need to be on our secondary.

I hate to tell you Zep, Trump will still be President at least until Jan 2021.

 

[zeppelin128]

Easy to see this has been a coordinated witch hunt with rule changes after the fact...they are gonna get roasted in the upcoming hearings I can't wait.

Deep State gonna crumble before our very eyes under the weight of all this damning evidence from right-wing Twitter. Trump will ride into the swamp on a unicorn and banish the evil librulz once and for all.

 

[golfballs]

So you respond to all that with unsupported, subjective judgements about Zlochevsky and innuendo about Obama/Biden based on what you find “interesting?” And you bristle when people call you a conspiracy theorist?

At this point you’ve squandered your chance to be taken seriously for the day. Gonna need some links.

Also, Shokin unfroze Zlochevsky’s bank accounts. It’s the last item in the wall of facts.

We need an investigation.

 

[zeppelin128]

I hate to tell you Zep, Trump will still be President at least until Jan 2021.

He won't be removed from office by the Senate. He has a lot of ground to make up by next year. But he could very well win a second term.

 

[Obsessed]

You may not believe that Trump tried to trade US aid for dirt on Biden and that's fine. But please don't act like you don't know what this about.

It’s about the 2016 elections.

 

[Jxn Vol]

This attempted coup will do nothing but help Trump’s campaign fundraising.

It’s meant to drive down his approval rating but it is going to do the exact opposite.

One dem already said if they don’t impeach they can’t beat him.

4 more years of winning britches.

 

[Orangeburst]

This attempted coup will do nothing but help Trump’s campaign fundraising.

It’s meant to drive down his approval rating but it is going to do the exact opposite.

One dem already said if they don’t impeach they can’t beat him.

4 more years of winning britches.

Picked up 50,000 new donors in past few days.

 

[zeppelin128]

This attempted coup will do nothing but help Trump’s campaign fundraising.

It’s meant to drive down his approval rating but it is going to do the exact opposite.

One dem already said if they don’t impeach they can’t beat him.

4 more years of winning britches.

Of course it will help his fundraising. Red Hats do not care at all what he does.

If he didn't want to be impeached, he shouldn't have broken numerous laws. It isn't a coup. Dear Leader screwed up. Bigly.

 

[tvolsfan]

Lmao. After clinging tooth and nail for 3 years over the Russia collusion hoax you’re pretty quick to brush aside this as a conspiracy. Hahahaha

Those aren't comparable at all. We can say with certainty that Manafort and Trump Jr. talked to Russians, and that Russia wanted Trump to win. Hell, we know they set up a meeting in the building Trump lived in of all places. What do we know about Biden other than Hunter worked in Ukraine and a corrupt, despised Ukrainian prosecutor got fired? What are you hoping to investigate?

 

[golfballs]

Dems want us to believe Joe was upset that investigators weren’t effective in prosecuting the founder of the company that was paying his son $50k/mo? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha